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Dispatchers can't order anyone to do anything.
1 posted on 05/25/2012 6:12:13 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Certainly Mr. Zimmerman made a tremendous mistake in not obeying the dispatcher’s orders

I'd expect better from the Washington Times.

2 posted on 05/25/2012 6:14:54 PM PDT by ladyjane
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My information was that dispatcher said something like “you don’t have to do that”. Regardless of my recollection, I read the transcript and have not been able to find these so-called orders.


4 posted on 05/25/2012 6:20:20 PM PDT by School of Rational Thought (Fun for women ages 21 through 35)
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I don’t have the exact words in front of me, but from memory I recall the dispatcher saying ‘you don’t need to do that’ when Zimmerman affirmed he was following Martin. There was no order. The idea that he was ordered to stay in his car by the dispatcher is as far as I know a media trope. After the dispatcher told him he did not have to follow Martin, Zimmerman replied ‘ok’.. that can be clearly heard by my memory. Or should I revisit the transcript because this drumbeat about being ‘ordered by a dispatcher’ to remain in his vehicle is repeated over and over again in the press and I just didn’t see that in the transcript.


5 posted on 05/25/2012 6:22:26 PM PDT by shadowland
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Karen L. Bune is employed as a Victim Specialist in the domestic violence unit of the State’s Attorney’s Office for Prince George’s County (MD). She serves as an adjunct professor in the Department of Criminal Justice at George Mason University in Fairfax (VA) and Marymount University in Arlington (VA), where she teaches victimology ..you'd think she would know a dispatcher can only suggest...
6 posted on 05/25/2012 6:26:40 PM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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The way the left and the complicit liberal media have presented it...


8 posted on 05/25/2012 6:27:53 PM PDT by South40
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IIRC, he wasn’t in his truck when he called, he was on his way to his trunk when the thug came from behind and sucker-punched him and he fell and then the thug jumped on him beating his head into the ground telling him he is going to die tonight.


9 posted on 05/25/2012 6:30:47 PM PDT by presently no screen name (God First!! VAB: Voting Against Both---> Romney and Obama.)
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From the article: "It is also disconcerting to contemplate the possibility that Mr. Zimmerman could be scapegoated to avoid the eruption of civil unrest if the results are less than satisfactory to some individuals." [emphasis mine]

If he is convicted, I pray there is civil unrest. Likely, either way it goes, there will be problems.


18 posted on 05/25/2012 6:39:19 PM PDT by ex91B10 (We've tried the Soap Box,the Ballot Box and the Jury Box; one box left.)
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Certainly Mr. Zimmerman made a tremendous mistake in not obeying the dispatcher’s orders to remain in his vehicle until police arrived. What followed that instruction, however, is where the case presently stands.


Is the above true as stated or is the truth somewhere else? I wish the writer of this article would verify what actually happened and was said during the above so called orders before making a statement of fact.

I think Zimmerman was already out of the vehicle and following Martin when he was asked if he was following. He replied in the affirmative and was told that they preferred him not to follow or something to that effect. At which time he stopped following and began his return to the vehicle. The attack then occurred.

If this is what happened then the assertion he disobeyed is a falsehood that needs to be correct. I’m sure at trial we’ll hear testimony of the occurrence.


20 posted on 05/25/2012 6:47:15 PM PDT by deport (.............God Bless Texas............)
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22 posted on 05/25/2012 6:52:48 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (Fat, drunk and stupid = Dumb, dependent, and Democrat)
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What is particularly disturbing is the hatred that has been directed at him, to the point of a bounty placed on his head by groups that have faced no consequences for such threats.

It appears the Justice Department refuses to pursue criminals of a certain classification.

27 posted on 05/25/2012 7:08:05 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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It is also disconcerting to contemplate the possibility that Mr. Zimmerman could be scapegoated to avoid the eruption of civil unrest

Mr. Zimmerman will most surely be "scapegoated" if he wins a trial or if he charges are dropped. The kenyans will descend on him with a "civil rights" trial at the end of which he will be sentenced to more time than would be at all likely for conviction of mere 2d degree.

30 posted on 05/25/2012 7:33:36 PM PDT by arthurus ( Read Henry hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson")
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Mr. Zimmerman made a tremendous mistake in not obeying the dispatcher’s orders to remain in his vehicle until police arrived.

Why, after all this time, do they still spread this inaccuracy?
Blame the victim, hug the thug.

31 posted on 05/25/2012 7:36:42 PM PDT by kanawa
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“Comrade citizen! You mussst OBEY the dispatchers ORDERS!”


34 posted on 05/25/2012 7:58:51 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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When Zimmerman is acquitted, I hope he goes after the MSM, Late night talk hosts, and slugs at MSNBC who generated all the falsities about him and made him a target, Then he should go after the Black Pathers and the Obama/Holder Injustice for non-blacks department.


35 posted on 05/25/2012 8:25:33 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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Finally somebody said it. Any cop knows a dispatcher can’t give orders. Orders come from police supervisors. Been there. Take it from an ex-cop.


36 posted on 05/25/2012 8:28:12 PM PDT by pankot
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May I recommend that the illustrious attorney Bune be banished for life to the ‘bunedocks’ from whence she came?

I’ll contribute five dollars towards hiring a short bus for her trip back.
;-)


43 posted on 05/25/2012 9:24:33 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is necessary to examine principles."...the public interest)
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He wasn’t ordered to at all. Dispatcher said something like “We don’t need you to do that”.

So what? He’s a neighborhood patrol A quasi sheriff. Had he followed and stopped Martin from murdering 3 children he would be a hero. Instead he followed a suspicious person who then confronted him violently. Who was then shot.

The real crime here is the incite to riot, incite to injure or maim, and an offer for a contract killing of Zimmerman.

Why hasn’t the Justice Department arrested and charged Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, and/or the leaders of the new black panthers?


47 posted on 05/25/2012 10:06:51 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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Certainly Mr. Zimmerman made a tremendous mistake in not obeying the dispatcher’s orders to remain in his vehicle until police arrived.

Wasn't ordered and couldn't be if the dispatcher had. As noted above. WashTimes fails Journo 101.

48 posted on 05/25/2012 10:20:21 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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When I see Jackson’s and Sharpton’s name associated with an issue, I know instantly there is a bogus complaint. The last really big one was the Duke LaCrosse fiasco.
They are obviously done with this one now that the evidence is out. Watch for the next one.


52 posted on 05/26/2012 6:42:58 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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Certainly Mr. Zimmerman made a tremendous mistake in not obeying the dispatcher’s orders to remain in his vehicle until police arrived.

I see The BIG LIE continues. Asked if he was following, Zimmerman said he was and the dispatcher said, "Ok, we don't need you to do that." There's no order there.

Saying "OK" is permissive and the second part is at most suggestive. By an objective standard, there is no ORDER and no attempt either.

53 posted on 05/26/2012 6:48:01 AM PDT by newzjunkey (I advocate separation of school and sport)
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