Posted on 05/10/2012 6:30:13 AM PDT by Reaganite Republican
“Hey, what’s a mountain goat doing on a cloud bank?”
you are probably right
Potential buyers will scrutinize the crash investigation for signs of flaws in the plane.
Unless there was a problem with the navigation system this wouldn’t be the plane’s fault.Just about any plane would have problem when hitting a mountain at 450mph.Mind you,I never have flown...and never will fly...in a Soviet made aircraft.I’ll walk first.
I don’t know,But if I had the money and the Opportunity I would love to fly a Mig 29 of my own.
That thing could really haul.
“Given same operational environment Soviet commercial aircraft are safer than Western counterpart. Statistics proves that.”
Laughable.
“Wasn’t there a flight plan? Didn’t they know where they were going? This is ridiculous.”
Being a short sales demo flight, I doubt they were on an instrument flight plan. More likely they were showing off the plane under visual flight rules, making the crew entirely responsible for traffic and terrain avoidance.
If they were attempting to remain clear of clouds with the descent to 6000, it suggests that the mountain tops were obscured.
Really easy to smack into something at 480 mph, when you’re flying in a mountainous area and you can’t see what’s in front.
Only the guys on the flight deck know what happened for sure. And they’re no longer talking. Sad.
They are not Soviets who counts statistics for air crashes.
Russian civilian airliners are built military way with a lot of structural integrity and most systems dubbed.
For that reason if Tupolev airliner force lands on an abandoned WWII airsrip and ploughs a few hundred yards into thick forrest all passengers are just walking away from that crash. So does an aircraft itself taking off from that same place a week later after some repair.
A lot are still flying in Asia and Africa after 40 years where Boeing will fall apart lacking any proper maintenance.
Hmmm...I don't know.I get a little queasy pulling g's in my 4 door sedan.I think I'd take a rain check on that *regardless* of who made the aircraft.However,while in Australia a few years ago,I saw all sorts of ads for rides in supersonic fighter jets.I don't recall the type of aircraft having been specified but I gave it a miss. ;-)
(sadly, I couldn't find the Lord John Whorfin "Come on, feet, do your stuff!" moment on Youtube)
Not such a “super” jet now is it?
>>>>>>>“Given same operational environment Soviet commercial aircraft are safer than Western counterpart. Statistics proves that.”
Laughable.>>>>>>>>
What exactly is laughable? Soviet aircraft are often flown by careless carriers. That is a reason behing most crashes.
Not really on the controller...pilot had crap for brains.
FYI.
"Yet after numerous delays, only a handful have been produced, engine certification being a major snag."
Only time will tell what the problem was.
Now, tell me, where you going to land a plane without worrying about a volcano?
NOTE: Java has 44 major volcanoes, 20 of which have been active in modern times. Imagine Alabama or Mississippi with 44 major volcanic peaks. Fly a plane through there in your mind's eye. In the dark. When it's rainy.
You really don't know what you are writing about. Any commercial or military aircraft requires “proper” maintenance to remain airworthy. There are ancient Boeing 707s still in service as freighters and I think a few are still in passenger service with foreign airlines.
You can try to define “operational environment” in a way that will give you whatever result you want, but there is no way I would ever willingly fly in a TU-154 or an IL-76.
I forget what the MEA (minimum enroute altitude) is supposed to be over obstructions on the ground.
Yes, for example, Aeroflot. If Russian-built commercial aircraft were so superior, then I assure you that Western airlines would buy them. They don't. (The one exception I know about is a regional Italian airline that flies a few Su-100s.)
Think about the reaction from the drivers on the ground. And what the pilot and co-pilot thought when they noticed those cars!
I flew Garuda once many years ago. Not a good rep at the time, and I could see why.
Listening to the news all morning and didn’t see anything about this. Wonder why?
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