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“Dear Abby” Gets it Dead Wrong on the Bible and Homosexuality
scottfactor.com Blog ^ | 05/08/12 | Gina Miller

Posted on 05/03/2012 6:53:54 AM PDT by scottfactor

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1 posted on 05/03/2012 6:53:56 AM PDT by scottfactor
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"For all* have sinned and fall short of the glory of God".

*Except homosexuals.

2 posted on 05/03/2012 6:58:26 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: scottfactor

Dear Abby is dead. Dan Savage is now ghostwriting her column.


3 posted on 05/03/2012 7:00:46 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: scottfactor

“As for the mother’s question about whether homosexuals can get into heaven, the answer to that is the same as for any other people. “

Let’s make it a bit more clear.

No. There will be no homosexuals in heaven.

Only ex-homosexuals.


4 posted on 05/03/2012 7:02:37 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: scottfactor
That column is nothing more than the Doprah Winfrey/Dr. Phil-type thinking.

The fact that male homosexuality reduces their average life-span to 39-41 years is totally ignored, whereas a obese people and smokers (who get harassed constantly) will live to their 70s.

These people are pathetic. I stopped reading this column years ago when they offered a "heart-wrenching" excuse to encourage abortions.

5 posted on 05/03/2012 7:06:47 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: scottfactor

For all this gay stuff we’ve heard in recent years, there is one fact which gets in the way. And that fact is, that we just don’t know what causes homosexuality.

Up until 1973, homosexuality was officially considered a mental condition by the psychiatric community. Then, it was normalized by the psychiatric profession.

But that normalization by mental health professionals does not mean that we know what causes it.

Today’s culture celebrates homosexuality. But we still don’t know for sure what causes it.

We do know that there is a cabal of homosexual activists, who have sought to portray homosexuality as “cool” and “normal” and “harmless” in recent years. They work in the media, working to ensure that movies and TV shows portray homosexuality in a positive way. I’m sure the same is true with columns such as “Dear Abby”.


6 posted on 05/03/2012 7:10:26 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: scottfactor

Actually, a portion of what she said is true, at least within a specific context. Homosexuality, at least in males, is very rarely a “choice,” any more than any other dysfunctional compulsion. The scientific evidence is pretty consistent on it being a product of the emotional environment. It eventually becomes a choice when the person recognizes the compulsion within themselves and makes a decision whether to embrace it or combat it.


7 posted on 05/03/2012 7:14:14 AM PDT by william clark (Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: scottfactor

I stopped paying any attention to them, especially Ann, after 2000. She published a letter from some distraught couple who could no longer stand to be lifelong friends with some others because the other couple voted for Bush.

Ann gave them some conciliatory rubbish and sympathized with them.

What a POS.


8 posted on 05/03/2012 7:14:49 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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“My husband and I are now struggling because we're not sure how God really views gays and lesbians. To listen to some religious people, my son will go to hell.

Obviously, this woman doesn't read the Bible, or go to church, or have a minister who teaches from the Bible. God isn't turning His back on their son; her son turned his back on God.

I also suspect that this religiously-stupid jackass is what Rush would call a "seminar" caller ("writer" in this case), if you know what I mean. Probably the authors of this daily trash have to run with pro-abortion and pro-homosexuality propaganda on a schedule.

9 posted on 05/03/2012 7:18:31 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: scottfactor
I view the “homosexuals were born that way” argument as akin to the argument that “Native Americans are predisposed to alcoholism.”

Both statements contain a kernel of truth, but both can be taken to distorted and illogical conclusions.

Native Americans do not have the thousands of years of experience in brewing and drinking alcohol that our counterparts of other races do. As such, most of us will readily admit that we cannot consume alcohol in the same quantities as our white brothers without severe consequences which you see on reservations where alcohol is a primary driver of poverty, spousal abuse and broken families.

Those of us who stay sober manage to do so with a variety of techniques. Some of us choose to give up alcohol completely, a path I eventually chose, as have many others. Still others choose to limit themselves to three beers or one small glass of hard liquor over a certain time period or only for certain occasions. Some of the more responsible reservation leaders make it difficult, inconvenient or even downright illegal to sell alcohol on reservations.

But none that I know of, save the most corrupt tribal leaders and hardcore Democrats (but I repeat myself) proclaim "accept us as a bunch of drunkards and winos and just keep giving us money to reinforce the habit."

Contrast this situation to the gay mafia. Whether through nature or nurture, I will not argue, but I will admit that some people are predisposed to homosexuality.

Like alcohol, if consumed in moderation, it can be relatively harmless or even relaxing to those so inclined. Some people can limit themselves to staring, touching or pornography. Many cannot and would be wise to chose the path of total abstinence or celibacy before it grows into a full-blown destructive addiction which, like alcoholism, will eventually kill.

The sewer pipe from Hollywood and the gay culture, however, takes the position that nobody but idiots would take with Native Americans and alcohol. They demand that society accept the most extreme forms of homosexuality, avoid even counseling much less legislating limits and that taxpayers pick up the tab for enabling it in its most destructive forms.

10 posted on 05/03/2012 7:18:52 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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That is because God does not create anyone to be homosexual

Doesn't matter if he did. He created the rest of us heterosexual, and still has moral standards he expects us to follow. Even so much as lusting after a woman is considered a sin, so how many of us have room to judge.

I think the real problem, from society's viewpoint anyway, is when we try to justify such behavior. Doing it is one thing; demanding everyone else respect you for it is another.

11 posted on 05/03/2012 7:22:02 AM PDT by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Up until 1973, homosexuality was officially considered a mental condition character and behavior disorder by the psychiatric community. Then, it was normalized by the psychiatric profession.

Horse-hockey! The psychiatric community was HARASSED into taking this disgusting behavior off their perversion list. And the idiots caved. It is a choice, every bit as much as drugs, booze, voting for Obambi, bestiality, etc. Just plain and simple . . . a choice . . . a very bad choice, but a choice.

12 posted on 05/03/2012 7:23:11 AM PDT by laweeks
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To: scottfactor

There is a distinction between “inclination” and action. One man may desire sex with other men. Another man may desire sex with per-adolescent girls. Neither sins as long as they do not ACT on their inclinations.


13 posted on 05/03/2012 7:23:40 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell)
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To: Vigilanteman

Speaking of FAKEs, I always thought it was hilarious that that the muslim word for magical religious wonder-maker is FAKIR.

And we call Hussein’s incoherent babbling “nuances”.


14 posted on 05/03/2012 7:24:03 AM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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It seems to me that people are born, or shaped very very early in life, to have certain tendencies that are sinful if indulged.

One person may be given to fits of anger, another may become an alcoholic with the first drink. Others will find it far harder not to stray in marriage than most. Some may be given to depression (despair.)

That is because God does not create anyone to be homosexual. What an awful thing it would be for the Lord to command that we not behave in a homosexual manner and then create homosexual people! There is no contradiction in God, and He never changes. Ms. Phillips is dead wrong in her claim that homosexuals do not have a choice in the matter.

Romans chapter 9 would seem to be in contradiction to this:

18 Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth. 19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? 20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? 21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: 23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

15 posted on 05/03/2012 7:25:52 AM PDT by heartwood
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“Meanwhile, I hope that mother who wrote the letter to “Dear Abby” gets a second opinion, one that actually contains the truth.”

I doubt it, since the warm and fuzzy answer she got was probably what she wanted to hear. Also, I’m assuming Jeanne Phillips, like her mother and aunt, is Jewish - so don’t hold your breath waiting for any Christian messages there.

These columns, whenever God comes up, take the feel-good, Joel Osteen type of “faith” minus any references to Jesus.


16 posted on 05/03/2012 7:29:58 AM PDT by llandres (Forget the "New America" - restore the original one!!!)
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To: PapaBear3625

“Neither sins as long as they do not ACT on their inclinations.”

Actually, Jesus would not agree with that. Matthew 5:28 sets it on the HEART and not the ACT.


17 posted on 05/03/2012 7:33:42 AM PDT by sigzero
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To: scottfactor
The world’s major, false religions—which include some so-called “Christian” ones...

Sad that the author chose to take a cheap shot at other Christians here to soil an otherwise worthwhile article.

18 posted on 05/03/2012 7:34:31 AM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Vigilanteman

Outstanding post. Thank you.


19 posted on 05/03/2012 7:35:15 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: All

Dear Abby, Dear Abby...
You won’t believe this
But my stomach makes noises whenever I kiss
My girlfriend she tells me It’s all in my head
But my stomach it tells me to write you instead
Signed Noise-maker


20 posted on 05/03/2012 7:35:21 AM PDT by freedomlover (Make sure you're in love - before you move in the heavy stuff)
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