Union says average teacher with a master's degree makes less than $12k a year after deductions

Capitol Confidential ^ | 4/9/2012 | Tom Gantert

[cymbeline]

I see teachers’ salaries every day in North Carolina. $60,000 is not extraordinary for a teacher with about 15 years service.

[mamelukesabre]

That’s 6k more than they are worth.

[Osage Orange]

It's easy to understand the education machine..telling the population..we need "masters prepared" teachers, therapists, nurses, etc.....It's about $$$$

An MS doesn't mean you are any better..or smarter. I've seen this over an over...first hand. It just means you've jumped thru the hoops...and have different letters behind your name.

I could place 12 letters behind my name...if I wanted to. Doesn't mean I know @#%#$!!

FWIW...folks thinking they want to be "teachers" ought to be researching what they can make. Of course that requires some thinking......................

[WeatherGuy]

You’ve got to forgive goverment educators.

Math isn’t their strong point...or English..or History..or Science...or....

[Osage Orange]

It's easy to understand the education machine..telling the population..we need "masters prepared" teachers, therapists, nurses, etc.....It's about $$$$

An MS doesn't mean you are any better..or smarter. I've seen this over an over...first hand. It just means you've jumped thru the hoops...and have different letters behind your name.

I could place 12 letters behind my name...if I wanted to. Doesn't mean I know @#%#$!!

FWIW...folks thinking they want to be "teachers" ought to be researching what they can make. Of course that requires some thinking......................

[Randy Larsen]

“Union Says”

Union lies!

[JSteff]

Education Association’s newest strategy is to portray their teachers as underpaid

That line is so cut from all the lefts previous advertising that it shows just how stupid the electorate is. They will buy what ever the teachers union says and not think about it for a half a second.

All teachers in the Education Association are living far better than the average parent of the kids they teach. Terrible to have a job that only requires you to work such a grueling work year, and get off EVERY holiday and other day they can on any excuse.

Worse is that work year that is only 9 months long. Then there are sabbaticals and monthly "in-service" days and full education advancement assistance... and more.

And the EA is probably one of the largest and most consistent Dem donors on the political stage.

[aruanan]

Union says average teacher with a master's degree makes less than $12k a year after deductions

I know someone who is a teacher's aid and she's making over $30K/year.

[momtothree]

“... $60,000 is not extraordinary for a teacher with about 15 years...”

In our county, teachers make close to six figures after 9 years. It must depend on the state/county.

[BobL]

...and the dirty little secret is that if you do report $31k, you get a HUGE windfall from the IRS in the form of the ‘Earned’ Income Credit.

[barmag25]

Below is a hundred or so salaries from my daughters school district. The only salaries I found below 40k were janitors, lunch ladies, bus drivers and first year grads were at 34k to 40k. seems that in year two of teaching you get a large raise. These union people are full of it. i removed the names and the name of the school as well. Just note this is a small county I live in. Very rural area. I’m sure when you get close to larger cities the salaries are increased.

http://www.open.georgia.gov/sta/entryPoint.aud

SUPERINTENDENT $118,055.98
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $102,844.56
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $102,713.70
PRINCIPAL $102,228.98
PRINCIPAL $100,108.12
PRINCIPAL $99,523.00
ELEMENTARY COUNSELOR $98,427.14
GRADE 7 TEACHER $97,813.64
FINANCE/BUSINESS SERVICE MGR $97,154.98
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $95,951.00
PRINCIPAL $95,505.91
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $93,531.79
DEPUTY/ASSOC/ASSISTANT SUPT $92,642.04
PRINCIPAL $91,416.04
GRADE 6 TEACHER $90,011.26
PRINCIPAL $88,550.25
DEPUTY/ASSOC/ASSISTANT SUPT $88,129.98
DEPUTY/ASSOC/ASSISTANT SUPT $88,129.98
TECHNOLOGY SPECIALIST $88,129.98
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $87,950.41
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $87,730.54
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $87,424.03
SPECIAL EDUCATION DIRECTOR $85,740.99
GRADE 5 TEACHER $84,794.88
PRINCIPAL $84,510.38
PRINCIPAL $83,786.05
PRINCIPAL $83,633.16
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $83,031.68
EIP 4TH AND 5TH GRADE TEACHER $82,813.64
LITERACY COACH $82,185.80
GRADE 6 TEACHER $82,185.80
HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELOR $80,915.00
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $80,411.76
EIP 4TH AND 5TH GRADE TEACHER $80,348.00
VOCATIONAL $79,923.00
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $79,365.05
GRADE 2 TEACHER $79,093.84
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $78,580.50
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $78,256.40
HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELOR $77,503.52
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $76,772.80
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $76,124.13
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $75,928.05
YOUNG FARMER TEACHER $75,869.02
LIBRARIAN/MEDIA SPECIALIST $75,272.80
GRADE 8 TEACHER $75,272.80
PRINCIPAL $75,048.37
MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSELOR $75,038.64
GRADE 1 TEACHER $75,011.26
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $74,413.45
VOCATIONAL $74,193.46
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $73,955.19
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $72,825.82
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $72,732.29
FOOD SERVICE ADMINISTRATOR $72,530.04
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $72,474.54
LITERACY COACH $72,400.64
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $72,283.96
VOCATIONAL $71,875.61
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $71,230.34
LITERACY COACH $71,225.55
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $71,017.34
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $70,856.60
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $70,513.64
ASSISTANT PRINCIPAL $69,734.00
GRADE 6 TEACHER $69,402.59
GIFTED ELEMENTARY TEACHER P-5 $69,220.08
VOCATIONAL $69,090.84
GRADE 5 TEACHER $68,976.14
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $68,932.66
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $68,897.14
MIDDLE SCHOOL EXPLOR TEACHER $68,813.80
GRADE 8 TEACHER $68,813.60
SCHOOL PSYCHOLOGIST $68,765.54
GRADE 2 TEACHER $68,701.14
GRADE 3 TEACHER $68,581.39
GIFTED ELEMENTARY TEACHER P-5 $68,496.00
MIDDLE SCHOOL COUNSELOR $68,475.30
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $68,388.18
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $68,351.14
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $68,313.68
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $68,258.64
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $68,138.64
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $68,054.28
GRADE 5 TEACHER $67,963.64
VOCATIONAL $67,813.84
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $67,813.84
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $67,813.64
GRADE 2 TEACHER $67,813.64
GRADE 1 TEACHER $67,813.64
GRADE 6 TEACHER $67,813.64
GRADE 2 TEACHER $67,813.64
GRADE 4 TEACHER $67,813.64
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $67,813.64
GRADE 2 TEACHER $67,813.64
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $67,813.64
GRADE 6 TEACHER $67,813.64
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $67,813.48
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $67,750.56
GRADE 5 TEACHER $67,599.30
GRADE 3 TEACHER $67,549.30
GIFTED ELEMENTARY TEACHER P-5 $67,474.30
GRADE 2 TEACHER $67,474.30
GIFTED ELEMENTARY TEACHER P-5 $67,474.30
GRADE 2 TEACHER $67,474.30
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $67,261.67
MIDDLE SCHOOL EXPLOR TEACHER $66,725.52
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $66,577.96
ELEMENTARY COUNSELOR $66,569.22
LITERACY COACH $66,528.10
LITERACY COACH $66,003.10
LITERACY COACH $66,002.98
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $65,936.18
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $65,838.68
GRADE 4 TEACHER $65,838.50
GRADE 4 TEACHER $65,758.99
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $65,683.84
GIFTED ELEMENTARY TEACHER P-5 $65,508.84
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $65,508.84
GRADE 4 TEACHER $65,508.66
LITERACY COACH $65,276.56
HIGH SCHOOL COUNSELOR $65,232.24
EARLY INTERVENTION PRIMARY TEACHER $64,945.17
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $64,704.98
VOCATIONAL $64,379.21
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $64,138.60
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $64,109.19
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $63,920.64
ELEMENTARY COUNSELOR $63,920.44
GRADE 7 TEACHER $63,920.44
GRADE 4 TEACHER $63,920.44
GRADE 8 TEACHER $63,920.44
ESOL TEACHER $63,920.44
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $63,818.80
TEACHER OF SEVERE INTELLECTUAL $63,783.28
GRADE 3 TEACHER $63,750.60
GRADE 6 TEACHER $63,600.60
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $63,600.60
GRADE 4 TEACHER $63,600.60
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $63,600.60
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $63,592.96
VOCATIONAL $63,348.12
LITERACY COACH $63,190.00
GRADE 5 TEACHER $63,133.16
LITERACY COACH $63,124.60
GRADE 3 TEACHER $63,118.36
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $62,957.84
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $62,919.60
GRADE 4 TEACHER $62,884.00
GRADE 2 TEACHER $62,437.71
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $62,411.26
GRADE 7 TEACHER $62,401.68
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $62,386.32
INSTRUCTIONAL SPECIALIST P-8 $62,383.22
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $62,373.34
LITERACY COACH $62,182.78
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $62,073.34
GRADE 4 TEACHER $62,059.00
KINDERGARTEN TEACHER $62,059.00
VOCATIONAL $62,059.00
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $62,059.00
VOCATIONAL $61,998.34
GRADE 2 TEACHER $61,748.34
TEACHER OF HEARING IMPAIRED STUDENT $61,748.34
GRADE 4 TEACHER $61,748.34
TEACHER OF ORTHOPEDIC IMPAIRED $61,748.34
LIBRARIAN/MEDIA SPECIALIST $61,638.05
GRADE 5 TEACHER $61,606.62
GRADE 2 TEACHER $61,509.32
GRADE 8 TEACHER $61,461.26
SPECIAL EDUCATION INTERRELATED $61,461.14
EIP 4TH AND 5TH GRADE TEACHER $61,176.64
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $61,076.96
VOCATIONAL $61,038.90
GRADE 2 TEACHER $60,943.46
LIBRARIAN/MEDIA SPECIALIST $60,710.90
GRADES 9-12 TEACHER $60,663.54
GRADE 4 TEACHER $60,504.01
GRADE 7 TEACHER $60,261.26

[AndrewB]

Master’s degrees are getting pretty common out there these days.

[Cringing Negativism Network]

Where I come from, this is called “bullcrap”.

[familyop]

Elementary ed. teachers get over $40,000 per year in my area, and this is the middle of nowhere.

[Sir_Humphrey]

“Union Says”

Union lies!

It's time to stop giving teachers' unions the respect of listening to them as if they ever were sincere in starting a dialog with us the taxpayers. How many more times are they going to lie to us and push phony "statistics" at us.

I'll cut right to the chase for them: "give us more money and your children will get our version of education". Can't we see that their interest is not our interest? Our interests can't be realized until we first squash teachers unions. Then and only then we can genuinely educate our children.

[Ditto]

When was the last time that you met a union leader who was not a liar?

I never even had a first time in my 40 + years including 3 years as a local Union Stewart (the worst 3 years of my life).

Not only does the top union leadership lie like a rug, every one of the grievances I had to fight from the members was based on lies.

I was young and stupid, but could also walk and chew gum at the same time and was talked into running for the local stewards position. All I can say is in that three years, every 'grievance' I was forced to file other than one, the company was 100% correct. In a couple of instances, if it were my company I would have fired the SOBs on the spot.

In most instances, it was idiots who thought that just because they were in the union, they could get everything without doing anything. I just doesn't work that way.

It was hell at the time for me, but ended up being a good experience overall. I got to see how it works, but I was damn glad when my time in the barrel was over. :~))

And the 80% rule applies. 80% of the problems came from 20% of the people. It was probably more like 95-5 in my experience.

[Nik Naym]

“I lived there 1079-1981.”

And yet you don’t look a day over 300!

[GenXteacher]

They might get that if they teach in Charlotte-Mecklenburg or some similar place. The rest of us don’t:

http://www.ncpublicschools.org/docs/fbs/finance/salary/schedules/2011-12schedules.pdf

[achilles2000]

Nothing like getting an MA for taking courses in bulletin board design, pop psychology, and political correctness.

At $1 they are overpaid. They aren’t even competent babysitters.

[X-spurt]

902 years is too long to live anywhere in Arkansas.