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To: napscoordinator

I think we should be putting a lot more work into taking the house and senate from RINOs and marxists which could render even Obama mostly harmless.


4 posted on 03/17/2012 9:04:17 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: cripplecreek

True. The House is going to be interesting this round. With so many retirements and people deciding to leave, it is going to be an interesting election and I don’t think either side could even gather a guess as to who would win. At 9 percent, there is no telling who gets the blame. Both sides are hated.


6 posted on 03/17/2012 9:09:02 AM PDT by napscoordinator (A moral principled Christian with character is the frontrunner! Congrats Santorum!)
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To: cripplecreek
I think we should be putting a lot more work into taking the house and senate ... which could render even Obama mostly harmless.

You haven't been paying attention. This guy blows around Congress all. The. Time.

He simply says, "We can't wait," and does whatever the hell he wants.

12 posted on 03/17/2012 9:24:43 AM PDT by M. Thatcher
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To: cripplecreek
I think we should be putting a lot more work into taking the house and senate from RINOs and marxists

And what do you propose to replace the RINOs and Marxists with?The Tea Party? It is the Tea Party electees of 2010 that gave us the NDAA. No one in government is our ally. No one in government works for us.

16 posted on 03/17/2012 9:49:42 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: cripplecreek

We need to focus on all of it.

But Obama has already been shifting the foundations such that he can do whatever he wants, with or without the legislative branch cooperating. For instance, his unconstitutional “czars”/regulators have totally ignored what Congress had to say about EPA regulations, internet “neutrality”, etc. His DOJ has totally ignored Congressional subpoenas. Just today we found out that he’s got an executive order that allows him to decide whether we have a “national emergency” that warrants a complete takeover of everything.

We know George Soros has even the “conservative” media hostage over the eligibility issue, and it’s highly likely that he would extend the same threats to ANYTHING they want to bring up, once everybody knows they’re hostage and there’s no reason to try to hold up a facade of still being a free media. In addition, Obama is assuming the power to have an internet “kill switch”.

Congress - including most R’s - have agreed to allow POTUS to arrest and hold indefinitely without any due process whatsoever - no questions ever able to be asked - US citizens who are “belligerent” (as defined by Obama), knowing that Obama also claims the ability to ASSASSINATE anybody he suspects of being “terrorist” (which his DHS Secretary has said includes small-government people). In addition Congress, with the help of R’s (including my Senator Mike Johanns) agreed to give up a lot of our nukes, reduce our military, and subject our combat troops to the distraction of potential romance, from either women or gays in the combat zone with them.

Right now the states are being kept from enforcing their own border with Mexico (even though the feds have declared part of AZ, for instance, to be a no-go zone - basically ceded US territory to the Mexican drug cartels WHICH OUR OWN GOVERNMENT IS ARMING WITH UNTRACKABLE WEAPONS). They are being kept from requiring documentation of potential illegals. They are being kept from requiring ID’s for voters in order to protect the integrity of elections.

I could go on and on, but the checks and balances have been decimated. The separation of powers doesn’t exist. We have no free media. Obama has assumed dictatorial powers not only over each individual but over whole industries.

In short, I challenge anybody to name me one thing that Barack Obama at this point could not legally do, and exactly who would stop him if he tried to do that one thing.

We know the guy doesn’t have a draft registration and thus cannot lawfully hold ANY federal office. But who can and will do anything about it?

We know that he presented to the entire country as if it was genuine - using a White House press conference to do so - a birth certificate that was a forgery. But who can and will do anything about it?

If he can do those things openly without any legal consequences, somebody tell me one thing he COULDN’T do.

We are talking about a whole different ballgame than America has ever faced. It would be nice to think that a simple election could give us back this country, but I seriously doubt that the guy who fearlessly and successfully took an entire nation’s media hostage would be stopped by anything so quaint as a mere election.

We’re talking about a trojan that has taken over the basic functions of the whole computer system. Simply clicking “refresh” isn’t going to get rid of that.


57 posted on 03/17/2012 2:41:40 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: cripplecreek

Unfortunately, the Congress has allowed itself to become irrelevant. The President does just about anything he wants.

And this didn’t start with Obama. The Imperial Presidency has usurped power from the Congress over many decades.


61 posted on 03/17/2012 2:51:46 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: cripplecreek; yoe; SunkenCiv; Clintonfatigued; Alamo-Girl; Just A Nobody; fieldmarshaldj; ...
I think we should be putting a lot more work into taking the [H]ouse and [S]enate from RINOs and Marxists which could render even Obama mostly harmless.

Yes, taking both houses of Congress from RINOs and Marxists is a worthy goal. But it's not going to do much good if "Osama" Obama is re-elected. That's because: (1) He can veto any bill that such a Congress passes - take a total repeal of ObamaCare, for example - and it would be just about impossible to override a veto, since one third plus one of either house can sustain his veto. (2) He can rule by executive order if Congress won't do his bidding.

Fortunately, kicking the RINOs and Marxists out of Congress in significant numbers this year would almost assure that Obama is defeated for re-election. That's because its extremely unlikely to see a rightward trend in Congress while at the same time maintaining an ultraleftist in the White House, especially one with such a negative approval margin.

So the possibility you hypothesize, cripplecreek - RINOs and Marxists out of Congress, while at the same time Obama maintains the presidency - is pretty much impossible, barring unprecedented levels of fraud in the presidential voting.

The posted blog by Michael Savage is very much on target, and very fitting for a man who created an organization called the Paul Revere Society.

62 posted on 03/17/2012 2:52:29 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: cripplecreek; justiceseeker93; sickoflibs

Congress is being worked on. It’s not an either/or thing.

Obama would not be mostly harmless though. Clinton wasn’t harmless. Clinton confirmed almost every POS judge through a Republican Senate.


87 posted on 03/19/2012 1:33:51 AM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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