Welcome to 4 more years then.
How comfortable are you assuming that all the Gingrich support would shift to Santorum, or all the Santorum support to Gingrich. I think Gingrich and Santorum may be further apart politically than either one is from Romney.
Great! Guess we don’t need to bother voting then!
Well then Santorum needs to drop out and stop splitting the vote.
so with a third of the GOP vote he wins? then gop turn out in the general will suck. OBAMA wins.
Which primaries are winner-take-all?
That would negate even a strong #2 for any of the candidates.
It’s just so obvious now. Gingrich had some kind of deal with Romney. I suspected this when he stopped winning the debates.
You’re assuming that all the supporters of Newt or Santorum would go to the other, just as an Anyone But Romney vote. I don’t see that happening. Lots of Newt supports think he would be best against Obama, with Romney second. Lots of Santorum supporters don’t like Newt’s family values. It’s not as clear cut as you think it is.
OK
So the answer is to do what exactly?
I appreciate your efforts.
If the objective is to not have Romney the nominee, what are you suggesting happen?
Therein lies the problem. I’m a Newt guy in Alabama. I’m voting for Newt Tuesday. Supporters of their candidates will do the same.
We’ll see how AL and Miss. play out.
Somebody get me a clothespin.
Newt Gingrich is getting some support from the anyone-but-Romney crowd, but he also gets support from people who liked the fact that he's an idea man and is known for his intelligence. Rick Santorum is not known as an idea man or as being particularly intelligent. Many of these core Gingrich supporters would switch to Mitt Romney rather than see the GOP under the power of a religious authoritarian.
Some of those supporting Rick Santorum may be looking for a candidate who demonstrates family values in how he lives his life or be looking for a non-Southern Republican to keep the party from becoming a marginalized regional party at the presidential level. Many of these people would rather switch to Mitt Romney than to Newt Gingrich.
Mitt Romney's strong showing in the South is evidence that he isn't a weak candidate there. Those who hold a zealous, irrational hatred for Mitt Romney are overrepresented on the internet because they congregate on certain websites and rant to one another about how much they hate Mitt Romney. Outside of these small groups, the hatred isn't that prevalent in the voters.
This whole system is retarded. I presume that the GOP will not survive a Romney nomination, and that we will be dealing with something new in 4 years.
If the something new involves voting and not rifles, the following glaring deficiencies need to be corrected:
1) The franchise. Way, way, WAY too many people are voting in these primaries. Limiting primaries to registered Republicans won’t solve that problem, because anybody can register in any party they want, without a showing of effort on behalf of candidates OR even affinity with the platform.
2) Plurality victories. In a final contest, where the winner gets the job, it MAY make sense to allow a less-than-50% vote getter to be the winner. As a method of choosing a candidate who will then enter into a final contest, it’s idiotic, because, as we see this year, 60+% of the (marginally) qualified voters don’t want the “winner”.
3) From that follows the absurd “winner take all” rule. It would be one thing if the “winner” had to get 67-75% of the votes to win all the delegates. That would make some sense. But to declare a “winner”, who gets all the delegates, when 65-70% of the voters want another guy is ridiculous.
If it were up to me, I would do away with primaries altogether. But if the Freedom Party is going to contest in 2016, fixing the above idiotic rules will help field a strong candidate.
Here’s the deal, pal: I’m not going to get behind a big-government sweatervested douchebag who can’t even win a job in his own damn state — let alone govern a nation. No brains, no guts, no vision.
Gingrich is head and shoulders above Santorum. I’m putting my principles and my money and my vote over your silly-assed pedantic political calculus.
Clear enough?
JustAmy—sorry to ping given your busy-ness . . . it just seems important, to me . . . for my Friends to be aware of
it. Feel free to ignore, if you wish.
Given this
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105.”In politics, nothing happens by accident. If it happens, it was planned that way”. Teddy Roosevelt
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From here:
http://twoday.net/static/omega/files/quotes_from_people_who_consider_us_subjects.htm
I’ve come to the tentative conclusion that . . .
Romney has been selected to be the GOP candidate, if not to replace OThuga.
It may well depend on how much DESTRUCTION OThuga has achieved by then . . . if WW3 via Israel attacking Iran and China and Russia the USA . . . then they may use OThuga as a scapegoat and install their puppet Romney.
I don’t think it would matter a great deal which of the GOP candidates they put in. They would all dance the globalist jig as fast as ordered to. Certainly Romney will.
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I no longer consider voting to play a significant part in the process. It is a totally scripted and stage managed charade.
On the other hand, with different fingers, folks can just label all this as nothing but psychotic mumblings from Kook Quix—and go back to sleeep . . . as long as that’s possible—with Netanyahu saying he’ll likely have to strike Iran before the fall SElection.
Here are some worthwhile articles on VOTER FRAUD.
Note, I have not read every doc or paragraph at such sites. I don’t know which ones are slanted or from a liberal vs conservative perspective. I just know that the voter fraud is extensive and manipulated from all sides against the middle.
Nevertheless, I believe it is our Christian patriotic duty to vote as wisely as we can . . . even choosing the seeming lesser of two demonized traitorous weasels:
VOTER FRAUD: RESEARCH STUDY SUGGESTS MAJOR ELECTION PROBLEMS
http://newswithviews.com/NWV-News/news299.htm
Florida: Flashpoint in the Debate about Voter Fraud
by Dean Searcy // Published May 3, 2011
http://www.fairvote.org/florida-flashpoint-in-the-debate-about-voter-fraud
VOTER FRAUD RESEARCH:
http://www.devvy.com/vote_fraud_research.html
BRENNAN CENTER FOR JUSTICE: THE TRUTH ABOUT VOTER FRAUD
{I don’t know if it’s a trustworthy study or not but it looks substantial.}
www.truthaboutfraud.org...
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And a few more quotes from there FYI:
34.”The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson.” A letter written by FDR to Colonel House, November 21st, l933
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35.”The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes.” Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952
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36.”Fifty men have run America, and that’s a high figure.” Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times.
37.”Today the path of total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or the people. Outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating within our government and political system, another body representing another form of government - a bureaucratic elite.” Senator William Jenner, 1954
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70.”We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt’s and Winston Churchill’s vision for peace for the post-war period.” Richard Gephardt, in The Wall Street Journal (September 1990)
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100.”The individual is handicapped by coming face to face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists”. J. Edgar Hoover, former head of the FBI
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