Posted on 12/06/2011 3:01:29 AM PST by moonshinner_09
Educating children should be exempt from politics. The Arizona Republic recently published a story about three boys who came to the United States illegally through their families efforts.
Gerson Gonzalez, Alejandro Sau and Jonathan Labrada told their story at the insistence of their parents about coming illegally into the United States, assimilating into high school and learning a new language. They lived with different members of their families, some that they had never met before, just to be a part of the American education system.
Once SB1070 took effect however, families had to separate, and parents chose to leave their children in Arizona to continue school, according to Nina Rabin, a UA law professor.
These children are left to fend for themselves, and act as their own monitor for homework, attendance and grades. They shouldnt have to worry about being deported or arrested for being in the state illegally. But in the beginning months of SB1070, many families were torn apart and these students feared being arrested. Then Robert N. Krentz Jr., a rancher on the Arizona-Mexico border was killed.
That changed things, Gonzalez said in The Arizona Republic article. I felt like people were looking at me differently. I didnt kill that man. I have never hurt anybody.
(Excerpt) Read more at wildcat.arizona.edu ...
...start with teaching them the law, then proceed with the meaning of fraud,thief,and what happens when politicians favor illegal activities.
We need to take care of our own at this point. Get them out of here.
“Educating children should be exempt from politics.”
Wrong Answer. Especially sicne the money to “educate” these illegals comes out of your and my pocket.
It's "that man's" fault. Look how ILLEGAL aliens have suffered due to no fault of their own. Everything here in America should be free for anyone to wander in and take it.
The original occupiers.
Why yes thy do. They just need to return to the country where they are legal citizens to get their education.
They do not deserve to have American taxpayers pay for their education.
Why yes thy do. They just need to return to the country where they are legal citizens to get their education.
They do not deserve to have American taxpayers pay for their education.
Illegal imigrants deserve an education the same way a Bank robber deseves money.....
a decent education and a decent living are comendable objectives...Its how u go about it that is the problem...
ILLEGAL ACTS ARE NOT EXCEPTABLE PATHS TO THOSE GOALS!
There is a cure for liberalism, but it is very painful. The cure is simple: Make the liberals pay for their ideas, and suffer the consequences of them, without foisting the cost and consequences on the general public.
So, I propose that this little twit pay for her plan. For the next 12 years, she and like minded individuals must collect and contribute to the school board $30,000 per year to pay for the education of these three. No one can be compelled to contribute to this fund; she must raise the money herself.
Then, she must go to one of her friends who has her heart set on medical school, and tell her friend that she cannot go because her place is being taken by one of the illegals.
Illegal alien students deserve to be bussed back to their lousy country of origin. Period.
> Illegal immigrant students deserve an education too.
Only if their parents foot the bill and don’t make US citizens pay.
My wife is from Asia. Her parents were poor. School costs money. Her family could only afford to pay for 3 years of school. My wife got her GED in the United States about 6 or 7 years after finally getting her US citizenship. Why should these wetback illegals be provided with free schooling paid for by Americans struggling to provide for their own families?
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Well, then teacher unions which are directly affiliated with and which support the democrat party must be abolished to further remove politics from educating children. Any teacher caught teaching or advocating a political viewpoint in the classroom, or out for that matter, should be fired and never allowed to teach again. The ILLEGAL children are taking resources that should be used to educate the children of citizens; pack them back to their parents home crapholes and let those countries worry about educating them, or not.
“Educating children should be exempt from politics.”
In other words: “There’s no room for discussion or other points of view, just do it my way.”
Just here to “get an education” and experience the American dream (/snicker).
Raza Studies that have been taught in Arizona for a decade......AZ lawmakers passed a law against it....but it still goes on
AN EXAMINATION OF RAZA STUDIES One of the textbooks titled Occupied America, by Rodolfo Acuña, includes a speech given by activist and university professor Jose Angel Gutierrez: We have got to eliminate the gringo, and what I mean by that is if the worst comes to the worst, we have got to kill him, (pg. 323). The book also talks about the need for Mexico to re-take seven states in the Southwestern United States.
The following rather shocking quotes are taken directly from Occupied America (pg. 167):
Supporters would execute all white males over age 16, (also known as the Plan of San Diego).
The Southwest would become a Chicano nation.
IS LA RAZA COLLUDING TO FINANCE RECONQUISTA? In addition to using taxpayer funds to enforce the polarizing beliefs outlined above in traditional public schools, the organization known as La Raza operates 100 charter schools across the counry. The following is a select list of La Raza charter schools:
-La Academia Semillas del Pueblo (Los Angeles)
-Atzlan Academy (Tucson, AZ)
-Mexicayotl Academy (Nogales, AZ)
-The Dolores Huerta Prepatory High School (Pueblo, CO)
-Academia Cesar Chavez Charter School (St. Paul, MN)
In 2005 alone, $7.9 million in taxpayer funding was given out to these charter schools in the form of U.S. Department of Education grants. These schools stress Latino culture, the Spanish language, the re-conquest of the American Southwest, the establishment of the mythical Atzlan, and even Aztec math.
Wonder how many fraudulent/forged identities “impoverished illegals” buy for several thousand dollars each they’ll use for this scam? Illegal Jose Madrigal, the Washington state rapist, had some 30 identities.
REFERENCE Hayward, California woman charged in mass thefts of IDs
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HAYWARD, CALIFORNIA — A Hayward woman has been charged with numerous felony counts for allegedly running an identity-theft operation that created fake Social Security and California identification cards, checks and credit cards. Mishel Caviness, 40, was arrested after an investigation by Oakland police and the U.S. Secret Service.
The probe began when an Oakland city employee reported in January that someone was fraudulently cashing her checks, according to police Officer Ryan Goodfellow and court records. Caviness was identified with the help of surveillance-camera footage from Bay Area stores, police said.
A search of her apartment on the 21000 block of Foothill Boulevard in Hayward last week uncovered a printing operation capable of making fake checks and credit cards, police said. Also found were 900 blank credit cards, personal information belonging to as many as 1,000 people, blank checks and computers, police said.
Alameda County prosecutors charged Caviness with forgery, identity theft, forgery of a driver’s license and grand theft. She has a previous conviction for welfare fraud and told police that she is disabled and unemployed. She is being held at Santa Rita Jail in Dublin in lieu of $325,000 bail.
SOURCE http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/05/16/BAPP1JGPTT.DTL#ixzz1MotxGM5R Page C - 3 of the San Francisco Chronicle
July 21, 2006——BERGEN RECORD, NJ
Texans accused of selling counterfeit IDs (impoverished illegals “here for a better life” pay several thousand $$$ for fake ID’s)
Pelcastre brothers, Angel and Jorge, Dallas, Texas, were a walking threat to US national security, expert document forgers who, for a few thousand dollars, could give anyone a new identity, NJ L/E authorities said. The Texas brothers were a “one-stop shop” for a myriad of fake US documents, including birth certificates, Social Security cards, driver’s licenses——for any state in the US——— passports and resident alien cards, said state police.
The Texas brothers turned a NJ hotel room into a business office and were readying a massive cache of fake Social Security cards for delivery to a local NJ identity broker. Officers happened upon two cars bearing Texas plates in a NJ hotel parking lot. Authorities wouldn’t identify the NJ hotel by name for fear it would spark retribution. The Drug Interdiction Task Force regularly runs checks.
The Texas brothers were followed to a NJ office supply store nearby where they purchased computer supplies. Officers then followed the Texans to a NJ storage facility in Secaucus, NJ, where the Texans loaded several boxes into a car. One of them stood lookout. Authorities approached the Texas brothers when they returned to the NJ hotel and questioned them separately.
The Texas brothers consented to a search. Police recovered laminating sheets with built-in security features, pages of blank documents waiting for fake names and information, finished documents, computers and software to create the fake IDs. All told, the haul was worth about $500,000 on the street when sold to “impoverished illegals.” Police also recovered $6,000 in cash, which was the first payment from a NJ fake document broker for a shipment of 500 phony Social Security cards. ####
Illegal Manuel Mejia Ordonez ordered to repay $3M in Calif employment fraud
San Francisco Chronicle | June 26, 2010
FR Posted June 26, 2010 by artichokegrower
A former Marysville resident has been sentenced to prison and ordered to pay back $3 million in fraudulently obtained unemployment compensation. US Attorney Benjamin B. Wagner said 31-year-old Manuel Mejia Ordonez was sentenced to eight years and one month in prison for conspiracy to commit mail fraud and identity theft. (Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...
QUESTION How does a citizen of Mexico make $3 million in unemployment claims? A. By establishing multiple identities. The fraudster, Manuel Mejia Ordonez, got eight years for conspiracy to commit mail fraud........and identity theft.
Also teach them that actions such as entering a sovereign nation illegally have dire consequences even if it were the parents who did it. The kids are the by-product of their parents unlawful actions. American tax payers are being asked to help perpetuate the original crime and to reward that crime to boot.
Children should not be punished for the actions of their parents?
Well, the American taxpayer shouldn’t be punished for the actions of the parents either.
Ms. Monroe should be required to identify, specifically, which American taxpayers deserve to have their federal benefits or services cut to pay for illegal alien tuition subsidies, and she should have to identify why illegal alien students are more deserving of that tax money than the people who would lose it.
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