Sven Kullander On Rossi And eCat

Independent ECat News ^ | November 23, 2011 | admin

[muawiyah]

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/search/Brake+Master+Cylinder/01292/C0066.oap?make=Chevrolet&model=P30&year=1990&vi=1059454 These things ~ probably should have put the term MASTER CYLINDER in there. You can even purchase Titanium Brake Parts for bicycles. It’s a common practice ~

[Moonman62]

You all seem to think Rossi is more than one guy,

Rossi is also known as the nuclear superhero, The Masked Proton.

[Lx]

I didn’t see Titanium anywhere and why spend extra for a Titanium master cylinder, why, to save weight on something that already weighs what, a pound or two? Where the fluid probably weighs more?

[muawiyah]

It’s a popular name Johnny B. You guys keep referencing the Thermoelectric converter as being connected to Rossi. Yet, the article shown on this thread as evidence of him being connected is issued by the US Army and relates to an earlier period of time ~ did anyone bother checking the dates on that article or reading the various lists of vendors?

[Lx]

I’m going to get coffee now. If any of my alternate personalities post, please let me know.

[muawiyah]

Safety ~ some competitive bicyclists are concerned with such matters.

BTW, I remember the days BEFORE TITANIUM ~ back when Steve Tesich was still a bicycle race fan and not a successful screenwriter (He's the guy who did Breaking Away about our good friend Dave Blaze who sang Italian arias while racing).

They were talking about how great it was going to be to get lithium bike parts ~ even frames (then about $2000 ) which would allow them to beef up the braking systems.

It cost less than $2000 for room, board and tuition at a major state university back then ~ not like today.

[Johnny B.]

It’s a popular name Johnny B. You guys keep referencing the Thermoelectric converter as being connected to Rossi.

Hmm... you may be right about that. I don't have compelling evidence that the Thermoelectric converter Rossi is the same as the Rossi who was convicted several times in Italy for fraud and is now selling E-Cats.

I have the combination of "Dr. Andrea Rossi" and "Leonardo Technologies" company, which strikes me as a unlikely random occurrence. I will look for a more solid link.

However, this doesn't do anything to rehabilitate Rossi, who definitely was convicted for fraud a number of times in Italy and who is now selling E-Cats.

[dinodino]

You specifically mentioned two GM models, not a damned bicycle. Christ.

[Johnny B.]

OK, that didn't take long at all.

Question on Rossi's blog that pretends to be a Research Journal:

Army Corps of Engineers report from 2004 says that your previous breakthrough, thermoelectric device that had 20% efficiency instead of the 2-4% efficiency of traditional ones.

http://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo(2004).pdf

You had demonstration of 100 watt device at University of New Hampshire. Then fire destroyed your Manchester (NH) factory and after that you managed to produce only devices giving out 1 watt. Have you taken this time more backup procedures to conserve the knowledge, so that an accident wont decrease your product’s efficiency permanently by 99%? [LINK]

And Rossi's answer:

Dear Mr Teemu:
Yes, it is true, in 2000 I made a patent application for Seebeck Effect devices to indrease their efficiency and to make possible to use them at high temperature for applications on engines. I sold all the technology and know how of this, as well as I sold all my other activities, to finance the LENR job on which I decided to focus totally my energies. Without this absolute focus no results could have been possible. The experience I have of myself taught me that when I focus exclusively on one thinf I have an efficiency that decreases on logarythmic scale if I make other things in the same time. I do not know the further evolution of my Seebeck Effect research, also if I know that they have been applied to Diesel Engines. Their real improvement in the field was not so much bound to the efficiency, but to the possibility to apply them in the high temperature ranges (up to 800 Celsius degrees). Again, I do not know what happened then. It is true also that a fire destroyed all the material I had: Firemen forced, rightly, to escape immediately while I was trying to save computer, papers etc. It happened in Manchester, N.H. (USA).
Warm regards,
A.R. [LINK]

So, the Rossi from the failed Thermoelectric converter project definitely is the same Rossi now selling E-Cats.

The only remaining unresolved point made in this thread is yours: Whether there is any connection between the Ohio "LTI Global" and Rossi.  You have made that link in order to gain the credibility of LTI Global's management (including former Secretary of Energy Robert Gentile), but I don't see any connection other than blog postings making this unwarrented assumption.

If you have any actual evidence of a relationship between Andrea Rossi and the Ohio LTI Global company, please present it.

[muawiyah]

I referenced bicycles. You want an answer on the GM models? I replaced the master cylinders on my Chevy Van and my son's S10 several times over the years.

They've gotten progressively better but you have to watch out for the way the G20 and older G10s are configured ~ they do the same job but they hook up almost exactly the opposite of the way the other one does.

Yes, the most recent one had reached the stage where it had a titanium casing JUST LIKE you would get on a lockset for a controlled access executive suite restroom. Had one of those break in our office years back. Took a special drill bit my father had given me years ago to bust it up so we could get the door open. You can imagine the anxiety while I cut and cut and cut and it just didn't want to give it up. Titanium casings are pretty tough.

Take a real close look at the valves Rossi lets you see ~ tell me what they are.

I raised this issue with the first photos way earlier last year. He's not just using ordinary plumbing.

[muawiyah]

Johnny B, the assertion was yours, not mine. I ridiculed the idea that they were the same ~ at the same time the Army report refers to "a subcontractor", and it's the subcontractor who cannot "scale up" the devices ~ not that the devices don't work ~ just that he, whoever he is, can't get it to work.

It is not clear that "the subcontractor" is Rossi's LTI.

NOTE: I was but a young chil' but quite able to read way back in the days when Mechanics Illustrated ran an article about a magic material that turned cold on one side and hot on the other when current was ran through it.

They were more excited about the prospects of instant cool beer cans (since this was a cheaply made bimetal strip). But I recall that not long after the original announcement of that material they were proposing further research into it since maybe you could heat one side and make a current flow.

It was quite some time until practical thermocouple's were devised. So, is it THAT technology Rossi was messing with? Or, is it a different thermocouple technology that LTI (the other LTI) was messing with?

Remember, the recovery of waste heat was supposed to be a big time thing in Obama's "Green Initiatives". I do hope you recall Van Jones, Obama's criminally inclined but otherwise quite the Communist Green Czar? I can find both Van Jones and Leonardo Technologies at the same website ~ http://my.wn.com/search/leadership_in_energy_and_environmental_design?p=200&t=details

So, that gets us pretty close to the criminal class doesn't it. Now, try looking up Rossi and Gentile at this site. Guy there claims they are PARTNERS. Which means Rossi is accessible one step away from Gentile or Van Jones ~ http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/05/29/andrea-rossi-breakthrough-to-clean-cheap-energy-through-cold-fusion/

Like to see if that is a true statement ~ 'cause that's the LTI in OHIO!

[dinodino]

I directly accuse you of lying. Show me a link to a Chevrolet titanium wheel cylinder.

[dinodino]

That master cylinder is aluminum. I think the only lithium you should be touching is lithium salts, taken orally...

[Johnny B.]

It is not clear that "the subcontractor" is Rossi's LTI.

Rossi claims that it was he on his blog, as I pointed out in the post to which you replied.

NOTE: I was but a young chil'... (followed by several paragraphs of unrelated blather)

More wacky trolling.

I can find both Van Jones and Leonardo Technologies at the same website

Wow, you are psychotic! That page lists any company that matches the search term "leadership in energy and environmental design". Also, note that the "Leonardo Technologies" referenced on this page is the one in Ohio.

Now, try looking up Rossi and Gentile at this site. Guy there claims they are PARTNERS.

Wow! It isn't even a random blog posting that you're relying on, but an anonymous comment to a random blog posting!

You haven't provided any evidence that the Ohio "LTI Global" has anything to do with Rossi.

I think there is sufficient reason to believe that Rossi intentionally created a company with the same name (in a different state) precisely to create such confusion.

The fact remains that Rossi's "Leonardo Technologies" company is the company that failed to make working TE converts for the Army, and is not the real, substantial Ohio-based company that has the former high-ranking government officials.

[muawiyah]

Try this one: http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/05/interview-with-energy-catalyzers.html ~ it outlines the big dogs in the Ampenergo deal ~ with the founders of Ampenergo named as Karl Norwood, Richard Noceti, Robert H Gentile and Craig Cassarino.

Robert H. Gentile is the guy with the Ohio based Leonardo Technologies Inc ~ with a current $95 million per year service contract with Department of Energy.

Karl Norwood is the guy who owns the building where Rossi still maintains some sort of New Hampshire presence ~ what that might be is a good question since this is where his "factory" burned down.

The criminal link is Obama through his friend Van Jones to Bob Gentile to these other guys, etc. to Rossi.

Cassarino stands out as a Gambino related "name" with Primo having been an enforcer turned federal witness. He hurt himself a couple of years ago falling off a garbage truck.

So, we have Rossi, Cassarino, Gentile, Noceti, and NORWOOD? Do you see the pattern?

Some of the conflicting information might have to do with OTHER PEOPLE'S need for obscurity.

[Johnny B.]

Try this one

Hmm... OK, that's a link.

Karl Norwood is the guy who owns the building where Rossi still maintains some sort of New Hampshire presence ~ what that might be is a good question since this is where his "factory" burned down.

I recall that you gave me a hard time about that relationship. I pointed out that Norwood and Rossi have shared an office and phone number for at least a couple of years (long before the E-Cat became public).

There are several reasons I think Rossi is a con man: technical, historical and business related. I'm not sure how this fits in, one way or another.

I wish Rossi would just had over an E-Cat to MIT or some other credible organization and let them prove that it really does work (or not).

[muawiyah]

Now, back this up a step ~ I think he really knows what he's talking about when it comes to the Mob.

Do you see the pattern here?

He was hit with 95 counts by the Finance Police ~ he ended up with 1 sticking. Hmm?

Not often that happens.

So, who'd he deliver to them?

[muawiyah]

http://ecatreviews.com/news/biography-of-richard-p-noceti Noceti’s vitae ~ interesting ~ his early patents seem to be in line with what Rossi was doing to convert waste hydrocarbons into good hydrocarbons ~ muy interesante.

[Johnny B.]

Now, back this up a step ~ I think he really knows what he's talking about when it comes to the Mob.

I've made that suggestion a few weeks ago, based on his repeated convictions for money laundering.

Having mob connections would also make it far easier to find "actors" for his October 28th demo. I'm sure they have access to, among other things, people in the construction industry (including boiler experts).

And now, I'm sounding psychotic. lol

[muawiyah]

Add Richard Taylor and Joseph R. D'Este, who is a really close buddy of Noceti.

We could probably put up a board with pictures and approximate position in "the family" on this one ~ just do it like the FBI does it. We could keep track of these guys and find out if they go astray (like scammers might) or if they stay on the straight and narrow so they can keep their hands in that $95 million per year DOE service contract. I assure you they all have somebody watching them ~ because whatever it is they are doing with DOE is highly classified. The amount of the money is chump change ~ they have 14 employees ~ so the "service", whatever it is would be some sort of classified "consulting". They don't DO STUFF..