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To: muawiyah; Johnny B.
OK, that didn't take long at all.

Question on Rossi's blog that pretends to be a Research Journal:

Army Corps of Engineers report from 2004 says that your previous breakthrough, thermoelectric device that had 20% efficiency instead of the 2-4% efficiency of traditional ones.

http://dodfuelcell.cecer.army.mil/library_items/Thermo(2004).pdf

You had demonstration of 100 watt device at University of New Hampshire. Then fire destroyed your Manchester (NH) factory and after that you managed to produce only devices giving out 1 watt. Have you taken this time more backup procedures to conserve the knowledge, so that an accident wont decrease your product’s efficiency permanently by 99%? [LINK]

And Rossi's answer:

Dear Mr Teemu:
Yes, it is true, in 2000 I made a patent application for Seebeck Effect devices to indrease their efficiency and to make possible to use them at high temperature for applications on engines. I sold all the technology and know how of this, as well as I sold all my other activities, to finance the LENR job on which I decided to focus totally my energies. Without this absolute focus no results could have been possible. The experience I have of myself taught me that when I focus exclusively on one thinf I have an efficiency that decreases on logarythmic scale if I make other things in the same time. I do not know the further evolution of my Seebeck Effect research, also if I know that they have been applied to Diesel Engines. Their real improvement in the field was not so much bound to the efficiency, but to the possibility to apply them in the high temperature ranges (up to 800 Celsius degrees). Again, I do not know what happened then. It is true also that a fire destroyed all the material I had: Firemen forced, rightly, to escape immediately while I was trying to save computer, papers etc. It happened in Manchester, N.H. (USA).
Warm regards,
A.R.
[LINK]

So, the Rossi from the failed Thermoelectric converter project definitely is the same Rossi now selling E-Cats.

The only remaining unresolved point made in this thread is yours: Whether there is any connection between the Ohio "LTI Global" and Rossi.  You have made that link in order to gain the credibility of LTI Global's management (including former Secretary of Energy Robert Gentile), but I don't see any connection other than blog postings making this unwarrented assumption.

If you have any actual evidence of a relationship between Andrea Rossi and the Ohio LTI Global company, please present it.

89 posted on 11/25/2011 10:03:34 AM PST by Johnny B.
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To: Johnny B.
Johnny B, the assertion was yours, not mine. I ridiculed the idea that they were the same ~ at the same time the Army report refers to "a subcontractor", and it's the subcontractor who cannot "scale up" the devices ~ not that the devices don't work ~ just that he, whoever he is, can't get it to work.

It is not clear that "the subcontractor" is Rossi's LTI.

NOTE: I was but a young chil' but quite able to read way back in the days when Mechanics Illustrated ran an article about a magic material that turned cold on one side and hot on the other when current was ran through it.

They were more excited about the prospects of instant cool beer cans (since this was a cheaply made bimetal strip). But I recall that not long after the original announcement of that material they were proposing further research into it since maybe you could heat one side and make a current flow.

It was quite some time until practical thermocouple's were devised. So, is it THAT technology Rossi was messing with? Or, is it a different thermocouple technology that LTI (the other LTI) was messing with?

Remember, the recovery of waste heat was supposed to be a big time thing in Obama's "Green Initiatives". I do hope you recall Van Jones, Obama's criminally inclined but otherwise quite the Communist Green Czar? I can find both Van Jones and Leonardo Technologies at the same website ~ http://my.wn.com/search/leadership_in_energy_and_environmental_design?p=200&t=details

So, that gets us pretty close to the criminal class doesn't it. Now, try looking up Rossi and Gentile at this site. Guy there claims they are PARTNERS. Which means Rossi is accessible one step away from Gentile or Van Jones ~ http://tallbloke.wordpress.com/2011/05/29/andrea-rossi-breakthrough-to-clean-cheap-energy-through-cold-fusion/

Like to see if that is a true statement ~ 'cause that's the LTI in OHIO!

91 posted on 11/25/2011 10:38:29 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Johnny B.
What about a connection to this?
It surely is enough to convict Rossi of war crimes, bleh, it's only use is as a drop or two for a Gin Martini, anything else and you might as well guzzle, NyQuil.


102 posted on 11/25/2011 12:44:32 PM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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