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JustiaGate: Say It Aint So, Carl Malamud.
Natural Born Citizen ^ | 11-11-11 | Leo Donofrio

Posted on 11/11/2011 1:53:37 PM PST by Danae

JustiaGate: Say It Aint So, Carl Malamud.

Justia CEO Tim Stanley has a doppelgänger named Carl Malamud.  Back in 2007, Stanley blogged about Malamud as follows:

“Our friend & hero Carl Malamud stopped by the “Justia offices” to talk about his new public interest public information project…. making the case law and codes of the United States of America (state and federal) freely accessible in a public domain archive…This archived data can then be used and worked on by the folks at Cornell, Google, Stanford…. and everyone!

And Malamud made good on that promise.  Whereas, Justia is a private enterprise offering free legal research with all the modern bells and whistles of hyper-linking and Google analytics,  Public.Resource.org is a barebones public domain which associates all of its case URL’s with “courts.gov”.  Malamud’s use of “courts.gov” is truly misleading in that it gives the appearance his site has a true governmental “seal of approval“, but it doesn’t.  Despite such icky behavior, Malamud has charmed a lot of people.

LawSites had this to say about him:

“I can barely keep up with the efforts of Carl Malamud and his public.resource.org to “liberate” government documents. (See 1.8M Pages of Federal Case Law to Go Public and More Government Docs to Go on Web.) The latest project: Recycle Your Used Pacer Documents!.”

The New York Times published a story entitled, “Score One For The Web’s Don Quixote“, about Malamud’s quixotic attempts to bring every US legal document public for free.  And Wired Magazine did a profile on Malamud which included this interesting bit of data:

” ‘West makes billions of dollars selling stuff we want to give away for free,’ Stanley boasts…

His company purchased and digitized all the Supreme Court decisions, put up the first free search engine for them, and donated them to PublicResource.org.  Now Justia’s working with Cornell University to throw some Web 2.0 tools into the mix, including wiki pages for decisions…”

(Keep that reference to Justia working with Cornell on your desktop, we’ll come back to it shortly.)  Tim Stanley is one of five on the Board of Directors of Malamud’s Public.Resource.Org.  And Justia is listed as top benefactor as well.

Together, it cannot be denied, the pair are the Robin Hood and Friar Tuck of the free government document movement.  Malamud was also very instrumental in helping Justia defeat Oregon’s copyright claim litigation.  His “Ten Rules For Radicals include:

“This is thus my second rule for radicals, and that is when the authorities finally fire that starting gun—and do something like send you tapes—run as fast as you can, so when they get that queasy feeling in their stomach and have second thoughts,  it is too late to stop.”

We shall see whether this alleged passion for open information and preservation is extended to a review of Malamus’ publication of public domain cases.  We do know that his sidekick, Tim Stanley, doesn’t believe such freedom of information principles should apply to Justia since he’s removed all prior versions of Justia’s entire body of US Supreme Court case-law from the Wayback Machine.  And in doing so, Stanley is guilty of the very thing Malamud warns about in his Rule #2 above.

This is an excerpt! Far more on this story is at Donofrio's site: http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/11/11/justiagate-say-it-aint-so-carl-malamud/


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: justiagate; malamud; naturalborncitizen; obama; scotus; stanley
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To: bushpilot1

Oh, you are a trip, aren’t you. If you can’t figure that out, it says a lot about why you are a Vattle Birther. LMAO.


221 posted on 11/13/2011 6:20:23 PM PST by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: bushpilot1

She thinks Switzerland is a French provence.


222 posted on 11/13/2011 6:21:22 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Squeeky

Vattle is a 300 year old French person from France.


223 posted on 11/13/2011 6:24:07 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Until then, there is only one path to citizenship for which there is no doubt under the law.

This statement actually makes a great point that NBC IS settled law. The ONLY path for which there is no doubt is to be born in the country to citizen parents. The Supreme Court characterized persons who are citizens under these circumstances AS natural-born citizens.

224 posted on 11/13/2011 6:29:36 PM PST by edge919
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To: editor-surveyor

Dr. Conspiracy put out the misinformation Vattel was French.

The first edition was written in French...you know the story. The Founders could not read French...how could they understand Droit des Gens.


225 posted on 11/13/2011 6:30:50 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: edge919

Sweet post!


226 posted on 11/13/2011 6:52:18 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: edge919

Yes, by itself it’s a good argument to that effect. However, the fact that the court says there are doubts about other paths to citizenship indicates to me, at least, that arguments can be made for and against other paths. Thus my position has always been that we need a SCOTUS ruling.


227 posted on 11/13/2011 6:58:07 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

“Thus my position has always been that we need a SCOTUS ruling.”

Be that as it may, according to Clarence Thomas, SCOTUS is avoiding that one. So, until they do take up the issue, what we’re left with is Minor vs Happersett, which identifies the type of citizen whose citizenship is not in doubt, because it is not possible for them to be any kind of citizen other than Natural Born, due to their birth to parents who are themselves citizens.


228 posted on 11/13/2011 7:23:55 PM PST by Flotsam_Jetsome (Larry Sinclair: The Original "Stimulus Package")
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To: Squeeky

Why did you take the name of a murderer for your online persona?


229 posted on 11/13/2011 7:26:12 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Justice Thomas was being facetious when he said the court was evading the issue.

I agree with Donofrio on MvH.


230 posted on 11/13/2011 7:28:59 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
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To: Danae

You know, Danae, I’ve wondered that ever since she first showed up.


231 posted on 11/13/2011 7:42:12 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Danae

Why don’t you put some of your world famous Vattle Birther research skills to work and find out??? I’ll give you a hint. The answer won’t be found in France. LMAO!!!


232 posted on 11/13/2011 7:55:01 PM PST by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: little jeremiah

I am gonna keep asking until she either answers or goes away. No sane person I have ever met would take up a name like that. Squeaky Fromme was a sex crazed, murdering drug addict. I want to know why our freaky little squeaky would take THAT name.


233 posted on 11/13/2011 7:57:50 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: Squeeky

Why did you take the name of a murderer for your online persona?


234 posted on 11/13/2011 7:59:52 PM PST by Danae (Anailnathrach ortha bhais beatha do cheal deanaimha)
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To: editor-surveyor

Whatever they’re paying her, it’s too much. Not worth her hire.


235 posted on 11/13/2011 8:01:00 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Danae; Squeeky
You are confusing Squeeky with Squeaky.

Oh yeah, your original Post is making an idiotic assumption.

That being said, I'll turn it back to Squeeky to give it a proper reply.

Disclaimer: If you were just trying to be funny, my apologies...

236 posted on 11/13/2011 8:07:00 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Liberals, Useful Idiots Voting for Useless Idiots...)
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To: Danae

Helter Skelter. She’s here to derail the discussion, drag it off into idiocy, keep making stupid comments that take peoples’ time, patience, and brain energy, and make the threads look nonsensical. She has fun doing it, too. She’s the worst kind of troll.

She’s got to be paid.


237 posted on 11/13/2011 8:07:26 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: Danae

Just like a Vattle Birther expecting somebody else to do their homework for them. Well, I am NOT your huckleberry. Sooo, you can just keep asking and I will just keep telling you to do your own research if you are curious. Or better yet, I will just ignore you unless you have something USEFUL to contribute. Which I am NOT holding my breath for.


238 posted on 11/13/2011 8:08:58 PM PST by Squeeky ("Truth is so rare that it is delightful to tell it. " Emily Dickinson)
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To: Danae

Amazing, Squeeky has a fanclub.


239 posted on 11/13/2011 8:32:18 PM PST by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell.)
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To: bushpilot1

Vattel was a Swiss born Frenchman.


240 posted on 11/13/2011 9:03:39 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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