Posted on 09/23/2011 6:54:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
THE TRUTH FOUND A VOICE IN RICK PERRY
FoxNews-Google GOP Primary Debate [September 22, 2011] Gov. Rick Perry: [snip] ………If you say that we should not educate children who have come into our state for no other reason than that they've been brought there, through no fault of their own, I don't think you have a heart. We need to be educating these children because they will become a drag on our society. I think that's what Texans wanted to do. Out of 181 members of the Texas legislature, when this issue came up -- only four dissenting votes. This was a state issue. Texas voted on it. And I still support it greatly. [end] Texas Gov. Rick Perry responding to a question by Chris Wallace
Gov. Rick Perry has stated (for years) that the U.S. border with Mexico must be sealed. He has requested assistance (many people on the ground and drones in the air for Intel – he has studied how this is done in Israel). As Governor of Texas, he has been rebuked in person by the current president, who refuses his pleas for the Federal government to do its duty and provide the necessary means by which to seal our country’s international border with Mexico. The governor’s written requests go unheeded.
Texas spends hundreds of millions of dollars of state money to defend its border with Mexico. An elite Texas Ranger unit, put together by Perry, is working to hold the line on our border. Rick Perry has stated that fences do work in urban areas but are not effective, let alone feasible, along the 2000 mile Mexico - U.S. border (1200 miles in Texas alone). The Federal government ignores this problem, while at the same time blaming and punishing border governors when they try to protect their states. People in other states, without understanding the facts, blame border governors when this federally manufactured problem spreads into their states.
President Obama believes security is just fine on the border (better in fact than before he took office) and frankly, he’s following past examples where foreigners are allowed to cross into the U.S., where those with work visas are allowed to slip into U.S. society without any earnest, federal or court action to prevent it, where states are not allowed to ask children their legal status before attending school, where healthcare is accessible to everyone and where federal “social justice” programs have been put into place, thus beginning the progressive process of teaching new generations that it is “normal” to be dependent on government largess. [funded by those “more fortunate” Americans]
Then, periodically, another couple of generations are proclaimed by the federal government to be in the U.S. legally, by magnanimously proclaiming, “You can come out of the dark now and stay.” [sign up here for your Democratic Party voter card]
Rick Perry, as president, wants to finally seal the border and stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs – stop those vile cartels who traffic in human beings and drugs, and secure a dangerous, porous entry used by terrorists seeking to destroy America. The current administration is willfully enabling those who prefer border security remain as it is, those who characteristically (for self interest) want to avoid addressing and dealing with these problems.
Undeniably, Governor Perry is the GOP candidate most familiar with this issue and the problems associated with it. Texas has a long and rich history with Mexico. Mexico is the number one trading partner with America. Many U.S. citizens have Mexican ancestors who are proud Texans and Americans, many who have, are, and are willing to fight for America. Hispanics are the largest minority living in the United States. They have a high birth rate and are a major minority voting demographic. This didn’t happen because Texas shares over 1200 miles of international border with Mexico. The current magnitude of the problem, along with the number of the illegals in Texas and the United States, has everything to do with historic and current Federal inaction.
The Federal government looks to the states and tells them to “deal with it.” So state governments and their citizens have to “deal with” crime and a fast growing, uneducated population that puts a huge strain on state and federal resources. The resulting fall out for state government is, “you’re damned if you do and "you’re damned if you don’t." Gov. Perry and the Texas Legislature have accepted the criticism for taking the “damned if we do” path because they’re “dealing with it” first hand and Texans understand that "we're damned if we don't." These children are here, their potential and future has been put on our watch -- it is a practical and human decision and as Rick Perry said, “You don’t have a heart if you don’t.”
In 2001 the Texas Legislature voted in an Act (signed by Gov. Rick Perry) allowing children brought to the U.S. illegally (basically stateless people) by their parents, who complete 3 years of high school in Texas (graduate and want to attend college) to apply for U.S. citizenship and pay instate tuition. Their “anchor baby” siblings have this right by virtue of the 14th Amendment (that gave citizenship to children of slaves – slavery was abolished by the 13th Amendment). If the country wants to abolish “anchor babies,” a majority of states need to vote for a change to the U.S. Constitution. The Texas education program is called the Texas Dream Act. The Texas Dream Act is not the same as the rejected Federal Dream Act proposed by the U.S. Senate because that federal legislation in totality and reality was an immigration bill.
The purpose of the Texas Dream Act is to have successful, educated citizens contributing toward a strong economy -- not unemployed or underemployed school dropouts who place a huge drain on our system [and begin generational poverty in their communities]. As past Federal actions have repeatedly shown Texas, illegal immigrants most likely will be allowed to stay. So the smart thing to do is allow them to pay instate tuition and be contributing citizens versus benefits receiving citizens. Gov. Mitt Romney does not agree with this and in fact rejected this approach in Massachusetts.
The truth found a voice in Rick Perry. Gov. Perry has said and believes that Conservative Ascendancy is how we will bring America back from the brink. Besides getting Americans working again we need to show them the value of conservatism and how those values encourage and support strong families and a free country.
Last night former Gov. Mitt Romney sounded like a “Snidley Whiplash-Simon Legree” character, while Gov. Rick Perry was “Dudley do right” looking after “Little Orphan Annie.” How do you think Barack Obama will (or won't) play these sound bites in his re-election bid for 4 more years?
Mitt Romney wants the status quo, which continues to feed the pipeline of generational, programmed victims -- driving trapped and dependent people into the arms of the growing army of the Democratic “fight for social justice” Party. Rick Perry wants to change the status quo and bring more voters into freedom – businesses owners, entrepreneurs eager to join the Republican Conservative Ascendancy Party – no matter what their last name or color, or gender or faith. And the border must be sealed first in order to do this.
Do the math. Rush Limbaugh has. Rush, like Gov. Perry, wants everyone to succeed (not secede). Rush, like Rick Perry, knows we’re at the crossroads that will decided the future path of the United States (and the world). Will it be Perpetual Dependency or Conservative Ascendancy? Democratic Party leaders are herding us into warring camps hoping to take us on the road to socialism. The states must take back power from the Federal government and get this country back on the road to free market capitalism.
This isn’t a Sound Bite issue.
“Nice try” Mitt.
So you subsidize the college education of illegals who graduate high school and so what then? You allow them to hold jobs as well? NO ENTITLEMENTS FOR ILLEGALS PERIOD.
LOL... And may the FReeperesque live on in us all! :-)
Its kinda like saying that a bank robber is working towards financial independence.
But the fact is immigration is one issue.
But it effects (bleeds over into) so many other problems and has the potential (dare I say we're on the cusp) of being the straw that broke free-market capitalism in the U.S.
If we can get the border sealed and halt the dependency state Dems encourage, it will stop many other negatives pressing on the U.S.
Follow the money.
The reality is you got at least 10 million here. Many of them are holding jobs. That's what's on the table for you to deal with.
Personally, I'd rather see them speaking and reading English and holding a job, than milking the system by collecting food stamps and health care and not holding a job.
Thank you for your informative and well-documented posts!
The way I’m understanding this is that they must be on a path to citizenship so that when they were finished their education they would also have citizenship, thus allowing for them to be legally employed.
Where people need to draw a distinction is that Texas and a few other states have hispanic immigrants that have been here for decades. And TONS of them. They're here, they aren't leaving, a few want a college education. Can't deport them, can't deny them entrance. Let them pay the same rates as any other resident of the state.
No different that buying a hunting license or fishing license. If you live in that state, you pay state rates. If you don't, you pay non-resident rates.
They're PAYING for their college education.
Perry lost my primary vote in last nights debate.
Well, we shall see. If Romney surges to a lead in SC, I’ll concede you might have a point. Even if he does, however, I think the lead will disappear long before any voting. In the end, immigration isn’t going to have much to do with voting in SC or anywhere else this year and Perry’s comments last night will have very little impact on the race. Some of the impact they have will, in fact, be positive for Perry.
If you’re right Perry is done for. If I’m right he’ll coast to an easy win over Governor Gay Marriage and Socialized Medicine. Time will tell.
Rick Perry is an illegal enabler. You can spin that any way you want.
The purpose of writing the essay of this thread was to answer your questions. Please read it.
That's a very good question, which by the way, should also be directed at the majority of those sitting in Congress, and the occupant in the WH.
You may not get to vote for a primary candidate. Mitt Romney and his minions, Texas for Public Justice (Soros)and Freepers will have spread enough lies that Mitt’s all that will be left on the primary ballots next spring.
It's not about the Federal meddling in a tuition law. One of the key places where there should be unanimity of policy in the country should be about what benefits are reserved for citizens and lawfully present aliens.
Unfortunately, we now have an Administration in Washington which wants a unanimity of policy resulting in open borders and benefits. Ideally, the Federal government would act in the interests of its existing citizens by having a sane border control and immigration policy. In the absence of that, the states go their way in all sorts of different ways, from sanctuary cities to in-state tuition programs for illegal aliens to Sheriff Joe Arpaio's round-em-up policies.
So, I was stating what the policy should be on in-state/out of state tuition in my ideal world. If states can redefine the benefits of citizenship as they wish, we're going to get all sorts of crazy things happening--as we are.
Generally, my policy is that he who pays for it decides how it is spent. So, I'd ordinarily be against Federal meddling if the State made the expense. But, treatment of illegals should be uniform across the oountry in my opinion, so this is a place where Federal input is appropriate (if it is sane, and it hasn't been).
You're dreaming...
The information LINKED in Post # 171 in reply to your photo and characterization of that photo in Post # 169 are the FACTS.
I hope you and others will take the few minutes it will require to go and read it, so you will understand why Gov. Perry is there signing the legislation.
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