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"Why Is Abortion Still Such a Big Deal in America?"
Vital Signs Blog ^ | August 26, 2011 | Denny Hartford

Posted on 09/07/2011 9:13:46 AM PDT by BearCreek

The one question that most perplexed the Norwegian TV crew that was interviewing me in my living room was "Why, after so long a time, is abortion still such a desperate controversy here in the United States?" Their experience in Europe gave them few clues. After all, abortion had come to most Western European countries, been rapidly accepted and was now off the political agenda altogether. So they were sincerely trying to figure out why four decades had elapsed since abortion had begun to be legalized in the U.S. and yet abortion was still, as Jan described, "issue number one for America's people."

(Excerpt) Read more at vitalsignsblog.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: History; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; embryology; law; prolife
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To: Vendome

LOL, sure. Why is it that people with 1-sigma IQs such as yourself seem to think they’re 4-sigmas?

I mean, seriously, your primary argument in the thread was that I might get zotted, and when you tried to make an actual logical point, you failed so completely that I was even embarrassed for you.

Go back to grade school, V, I think you slept through something.


101 posted on 09/07/2011 7:30:54 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I’m not arguing the way I am because I want to post up blog materials of my own.

It appears you were being less than honest when you said the above to JimRob. Some would call it lying. It looks like a lie to me, Polybloggicus, Prevariacatorus.

102 posted on 09/07/2011 7:35:43 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Oh! The Sigma thing. Oooohhhh, Scaryyyyy how intelligent you are.

I did sleep through grade school though.


103 posted on 09/07/2011 7:36:06 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 50mm; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

Seriously, hold on those thoughts. They’ll keep your furtive mind warm.

I have to run and and tackle the ATM machine for some loot and a couple of other things.

I’ll be back in a while(1.5-2 hours) and you can punish me with your dazzling intellect.

Truly amazing.


104 posted on 09/07/2011 7:39:24 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: 50mm
It appears you were being less than honest when you said the above to JimRob. Some would call it lying. It looks like a lie to me, Polybloggicus, Prevariacatorus.

Uh, no. Note that we said "blog material." The material I post is primarily from Renew America, which is not a blog, neither by the usual definition, nor by the specialised Free Republic definition. Renew America, in fact, is a site that's pretty much on Free Republic's "approved" list, to the extent that such a thing exists - or so the link with graphic on FR's front page to Renew America would seem to suggest. I never said I don't post up my own writings - I DID say that I don't post up blog materials. The problem is not that I'm lying, but that you're unable to pick up on precision in language.

105 posted on 09/07/2011 7:42:24 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Vendome
I have to run and and tackle the ATM machine for some loot and a couple of other things.

Don't hurt yourself. Oh, you didn't mean that literally. Sorry.

I’ll be back in a while(1.5-2 hours) and you can punish me with your dazzling intellect.

Weak eyes are fondest of glittering objects.

106 posted on 09/07/2011 7:48:42 PM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus

this whole thing turned into “you” and pretending to be a proxy for a guy, a really nice guy.

The OP is a good man and everythings worked out.

Threads been hijacked enough.


107 posted on 09/07/2011 8:01:07 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I DID say that I don't post up blog materials.

Again, you are shown to be less than honest, CFP blogboy:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2762317/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2718331/posts

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2674767/posts

The only thing missing in your blogpimping history is your MySpace page. Of course, with the many blogs you've pimped over the years I could have missed that one.

108 posted on 09/07/2011 8:01:07 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Blog pimping is unwelcome. Can’t make it any plainer than that.

Thank you.

BTTT

109 posted on 09/08/2011 7:07:00 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Vendome

Uh hunh. Sure.

Here’s probably what really happened.

After you got done punching the ATM machine, and whatever else it is that you do when you’re frustrated by dealing with your superiors, you came back home, sat down in front of your computer, reread the thread, and attempted to come to a grasp of the arguments being made.

But realised that you didn’t really have any argument to make against them.

After all, you already pulled the “Righthaven card,” and it fell flat. Basic error in logic on your part, going for a cheap emotional moral equivalency argument that probably wouldn’t even have flown on DU.

The only other arguments you have are basically that “JimRob says it’s okay” and “you’re gonna get zotted if you don’t shut up.” Neither is particularly persuasive, since JimRob doesn’t get to overrule federal copyright law, and if I get zotted, well, fine. I can find other sites where I’ll have to deal with mouthbreathers such as yourself. It’s a big internet.

Seriously, though, since you’re so brilliant, I’d like to see you actually make an attempt to show why it’s *not* copyright theft when a FReeper posts up a blogger’s material in full (and therefore, how FR is *not* encouraging, or even requiring, its users to commit copyright theft). Just try to make an argument for how that’s fair use, or morally acceptable, or anything else you might believe tyo be pertinent.

Give it a shot, Einstein, you might learn something.


110 posted on 09/08/2011 11:21:34 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: 50mm

Uh, no.

If Canada Free Press is a “blog,” then so are NewsMax, Renew America, Town Hall, and scads of other commentary aggregation sites that FReepers routinely post and excerpt every day.

CFP doesn’t become a “blog” just because FR management arbitrarily decides to define it as such.

A blog is wordpress.com. A blog is blogspot.com. A blog is a paid domain hosted through one of these and organised in a specific blog format.

If you can’t figure that out, that’s not my problem. I guess poisoning the well is easier than actually thinking.


111 posted on 09/08/2011 11:24:52 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Jim Robinson
If Canada Free Press is a “blog,...”

CFP doesn’t become a “blog” just because FR management arbitrarily decides to define it as such.

CFP is a blog conglomerator. Those who post their blogs on CFP are bloggers. Apparently, JimRob agrees. Your complaints about FR blog posting policy are more likely to be resolved if made directly to Jim.

In my opinion, Renew is a blog conglomerator, similar to CFP. Apparently, JimRob disagrees. It's his site and his call. Unlike you and your ilk, who insist on excerpting their own blogwork, often in the News Forum as in your case, I abide by Jim's rules.

If you're so disturbed by the way JimRob runs FR, perhaps you should reread and contemplate post 51 while you're still sober, blogpimp. As for me, the more Jim smacks down the blogpimps, with their superinflated egos and their entitlement mentalities, the more likely I am to bump up my monthly financial support of his site.

I'm sick to death of the hundreds of blogpimps who take advantage of Jim's hospitality to generate blog hits and revenue for their own sites while at the same time whining and complaining about how Jim runs FR, the best damned forum on the internet, and freeloading on the backs of those of us who support FR financially.

112 posted on 09/08/2011 6:44:25 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: 50mm; Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; Jim Robinson

Damn straight.

If we weren’t contributors we probably wouldn’t complain and this place would turn into a Huffpo with craptastic pontificating, intellectual sieves.

As it is, the ones who arrogantly flaunt their meager I.Q.’s under the cover obdurate hubris want to shade the world, erh Free Republic, with their pastels.

Still, the viking kitties must be fed from time to time.


113 posted on 09/08/2011 8:19:30 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome; 50mm; Jim Robinson

Hey, I’m a contributor too, so I guess I have room to criticise it when I see policies that aren’t kosher.

As it is, V, if you’d stop flaunting that meagre IQ, you probably wouldn’t have near as many difficulties in your life.


114 posted on 09/09/2011 5:55:32 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: 50mm
CFP is a blog conglomerator.

Oh c'mon off it. If CFP and Renew America are blog aggregators (which they're not), then so are Town Hall and NewsMax, which operate under the same type of model.

I support FR financial as well, so you really don't have an argument there. I've not made a single red cent from anything that I've ever posted on FR, but I've helped JimRob, as far as I could afford, to keep the lights on here.

Your argument is hypocritical. It's basically justification for outright theft. It's as simple as that. You are a thief, and an apologist for thievery. The reason FR forces bloggers to post in full while forcing excerpts of MSM outlets (including, apparently, BLOGS) is because MSM outlets could sue JimRob, while individual bloggers probably couldn't. It's not about principles or quality of content. It's about pushing the limits of legal liability.

And guess what, from the FReepmail I get after each thread like this occurs, there are a lot of FReepers out there who agree with me.

115 posted on 09/09/2011 6:02:31 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus; 50mm; Jim Robinson

Like you, I am doing my part to dumb down America.


116 posted on 09/09/2011 10:25:33 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: Vendome

Yes, we noticed.


117 posted on 09/09/2011 10:32:10 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus ("A gentleman considers what is just; a small man considers what is expedient.")
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Because unlike in Europe, we still have actual free speech, and enough sources of information that circumvent the state-controlled media that the debate isn't artificially silenced.

It's because we still have souls unlike most of Europe.
118 posted on 09/09/2011 10:36:57 AM PDT by Vision ("Did I not say to you that if you would believe, you would see the glory of God?" John 11:40)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Hey, I’m a contributor too, so I guess I have room to criticise it when I see policies that aren’t kosher.

You continue to whine and complain about FR policy that I find perfectly acceptable. Jim has his reasons for sorting the various blog conglomerators into sites that belong in bloggers, like CFP, and those that can be posted in News, like Renew.

As for your financial support, (if you are not lying) you are in a tiny, tiny minority of blogpimps who support FR. The vast majority of blogpimps are merely scummy parasites who view FR as nothing but a massive hit farm.

119 posted on 09/09/2011 5:54:55 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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To: Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
Oh c'mon off it. If CFP and Renew America are blog aggregators (which they're not), then so are Town Hall and NewsMax, which operate under the same type of model.

The problem with any of the conglomerator sites is the vast range of talent of the scads of bloggers. It ranges from chicken scratch hacks to a few decent writers. Should Jim allow the chicken scratchers to post in News?

I've not made a single red cent from anything that I've ever posted on FR, but I've helped JimRob, as far as I could afford, to keep the lights on here.

Thank you for your support of FR ... if you're not lying.

It's basically justification for outright theft. It's as simple as that.

How can you steal something that belongs to yourself? All I'm asking is that a blogger posting his own blog material post it in full. How is asking a blogger to post his own writing in full, "supporting theft?"

You are a thief, and an apologist for thievery.

You are a liar and an arrogant douche, devoid of logical thinking skills. Again, you can't steal something you already own. It's that simple.

I notice you didn't include JimRob in your ping to this idiotic charge of thievery, even though it's his policy we are talking about. Now why is that, blogboy?

The reason FR forces bloggers to post in full...

FR does not force anybody to post in full, liar. If FR did, the blogpimps would all disappear and our argument would be moot.

...MSM outlets could sue JimRob, while individual bloggers probably couldn't.

Many of the blogpimps have threatened FR, its members and JimRob with lawsuits over their hurt feelings and dashed dreams of blogpimp super-stardom. Most have been sent packing. Why don't you give it a shot and see what happens.

And guess what, from the FReepmail I get after each thread like this occurs, there are a lot of FReepers out there who agree with me.

Yes, FR has many blogpimps who support you. They're hoping that they can eventually return to excerpting their crappy blogs in the News Forum, with its mother lode of blog-ad-clicking-fingers, to lead more unwary FReepers to their malware-laden blog sites. I hope to dash their hopes.

120 posted on 09/09/2011 5:57:20 PM PDT by 50mm (Trust nobody and you'll never be disappointed.)
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