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1 posted on 08/27/2011 9:38:05 PM PDT by mnehring
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Yes, he is

A Genus on domestic libertarian thought but a foreign policy moron


2 posted on 08/27/2011 9:41:44 PM PDT by dila813
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Ron Paul has to hide some of his crazy liberaltarian ideas to be in the GOP, it must be killing him not to yak about those things. The worst thing about Paul is his wacked out crackpot supporters.


3 posted on 08/27/2011 9:44:00 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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He’s not very useful, but he’s definitely an idiot


5 posted on 08/27/2011 9:46:14 PM PDT by sbwordman (The most important thing a man can do for his kids is to love their mother.)
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If this weren’t true, could you still support RP for the Republican nominee? No, sir! None of this matters..what does matter is he cannot win.


6 posted on 08/27/2011 9:46:15 PM PDT by hope
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How bout auditing the federal reserve and ultimately eliminating it?..

A stopped clock is right once a day if its discredited once a day.. called names and pilloried..


8 posted on 08/27/2011 9:46:38 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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Paul isn't fooling anyone except other libertarian fools. Open borders. Right to murder unborn children. Free dope for everybody.

This clown doesn't have a prayer. Everyone of his advocates on this and other forums are people who would surely vote demoRAT otherwise.

9 posted on 08/27/2011 9:47:06 PM PDT by LouAvul
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Actually he's very well spoken and often times makes intellectually consistent arguments. the problem is, is that his intellectual consistency conflicts with party line ideology so he's criticized and ridiculed for it.

And no he's not my candidate of choice. If he were to be elected both parties would engage in a full-time onslaught of neutering him. He would receive very little support from his own party or the media. Being a very ineffective president.

11 posted on 08/27/2011 9:47:19 PM PDT by Tempest (Google: Rick perry bi-national healthcare)
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Is Ron Paul an A Useful Idiot?

There is little useful about him.

17 posted on 08/27/2011 9:55:38 PM PDT by svcw
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At what point did we think the RuPaul was useful?


18 posted on 08/27/2011 9:58:29 PM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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>>>>>Is Ron Paul A Useful Idiot?

Ronpaul is useless and an idiot.

26 posted on 08/27/2011 10:40:29 PM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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Paul doesn’t understand the philosophy that underlies our Constitution and legal system and the concept of “Just Law”.

Some areas he is pretty solid, but other areas he gets extremely weird. He doesn’t understand the need for a “worldview” which enshrines our Natural Rights which come from God.

The USA established a worldview of “Right Reason according to Nature”. Our legal system and Just Law comes from Natural Law Theory—which says there is a Creator—who designed man, etc., to “flourish” and that “happiness” is synonymous to Virtue. Virtue is defined clearly by the Founders and the Courts. Freedom can not exist without a virtuous people....Basic philosophy of all the Founders and Locke and Blackstone, etc. Just law can not deny virtue or telos of human beings.

Paul says states can establish homosexual marriage. It is legalizing evil acts—nihilism, degrading, immoral acts. It is unconstituional—goes against the laws of nature and enshrines immorality—by the standards of God’s law.

Telos is a fundamental part of Natural Law and Paul mocks it with his idea of homosexual marriage rights-—when social contracts are a fundamental importance to a society and the only reason for governments.

The natural family unit is the most important element of culture (all Anthropology) which enshrine our Natural Rights and a child’s to their biological parents. To deny a child their Natural Right through “law” is not possible because of inalienable rights and Natural Law Theory. To “flourish” or for the ‘General Welfare’ of a society we can not remove the Duty of people to be responsible for their offspring. Homosexual marriage creates a society which denies biology and virtue.

You have to acknowledge a God and His standards of Right and Wrong for this philosophy of Natural Law Theory to work. It is quite obvious. You never have Just Law when Objective Truths do not exist (Cicero/Locke/Aquinas).

Moral Relativism can not work anywhere but a socialist, communist country where only ‘might makes right’—there is no standard of right and wrong—just depends who has the power and what they state is right and wrong.

Moral Relativism removes The Rule of Law and replaces it with Rule of Man—(just laws which are not based in laws of nature—arbitrary which says there is no right and wrong—no reason, no logic because that comes only from observing Natural Law.

Ron Paul advocates Moral Relativism—socialism/chaos. Whose standard if not God’s???? Marx? Andrew Sullivan’s Satan’s?

The point is the USA has a standard that is absolute—Natural Rights are absolute—and Paul is saying there is no Objective Truth—no “right and wrong”. It’s stupid and arbitrary (unjust) law. He denies we have Natural Rights because he denies the God who is the originator of those rights.

The government ONLY exists to ensure our Natural Rights from God. That’s it, Paul! If government does not do this fundamental thing, it should be removed.


27 posted on 08/27/2011 10:45:20 PM PDT by savagesusie
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Not sure about the useful, but the idiot passes with flying colors.


28 posted on 08/27/2011 10:52:20 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Democrats creation of the entitlement class will prove out to be their very own Frankenstein monster)
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He’s not useful.


31 posted on 08/27/2011 11:08:31 PM PDT by Defiant (We are governed by the Oboehner party.)
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No. He’s just an idiot.


32 posted on 08/27/2011 11:12:31 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If the truth hurts, prepare yourself for a LOT of pain.)
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He is the Ernest T. Bass of politics. You know, from the Andy Griffith show - the ignorant scruffy belligerent hillbilly with a penchant for troublemaking and being a pest every time he came to town. That’s is Ron Paul.

But Barney Fife describes him best: “He’s a nut!”


33 posted on 08/27/2011 11:16:10 PM PDT by NavyCanDo (Go Mama Grizzly! Palin 2012)
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It’s a very strange anti-Semite who says that his political and economic philosophy was shaped by four Jewish intellectuals — Rothbard, Mises, Hayek, and Friedman — and who proclaims respect for the sovereignty of Israel and its right to run its own affairs.

Ron Paul is a consistent Rothbardian libertarian. Conservatives can disagree with Rothbard’s philosophy and economic thinking, but it’s silly and intellectually dishonest to call it it anti-Semitic.

Republicans are particularly foolish to treat libertarians with the sort of ridicule, disrespect, and sophistic misrepresentation on display in this article and the Jeffrey Lord article of which it is derivative. About 14% of the electorate tilts libertarian, and these voters have historically voted 3:1 Republican. The Republican Party can ill-afford to alienate these voters.

Three quotes from Ronald Reagan come to mind:

“Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”

“The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally - not a 20 percent traitor.”

“If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism.”


34 posted on 08/27/2011 11:30:03 PM PDT by Skepolitic
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>>> Is Ron Paul A Useful Idiot?

Always worth remembering who is on Ron Paul’s side. And how the RP posters here spend years doing nothing much more then trying to incite against any and all Republican candidates and office-holders to the benefit of RP and the dem party.

Saturday, May 10, 2008
Cindy Sheehan endorses Ron Paul over Barack Obama

http://wigdersonlibrarypub.blogspot.com/2008/05/cindy-sheehan-endorses-ron-paul-over.html

and earlier:

Sheehan: “I don’t want to even discuss who is likely to be the Republican nominee, because besides having little foreign policy difference between any of them and Hillary, anyone of them would be a complete disaster on matters of war and peace, with the possible exception of Ron Paul (Tx).”

http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/o/1590/t/523/blog/comments.jsp?key=346&blog_entry_KEY=21045&t


35 posted on 08/28/2011 12:07:50 AM PDT by tlb
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Talking with a Ron Paul supporter.

Talking with a Ron Paul supporter 2

Talking with a Ron Paul Supporter Part 3

Talking with a Ron Paul supporter part 4

42 posted on 08/28/2011 2:35:32 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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According to what I’ve seen depicted from his old newsletters from the 80s and 90s, he’s probably a racist idiot. http://newsone.com/nation/casey-gane-mccalla/ron-pauls-racist-newsletters-revealed/


45 posted on 08/28/2011 6:33:35 AM PDT by flowerplough (Pelosi on Republicans: "They want to destroy food safety, clean air, clean water, ...")
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Can you ping me when you do Ron Paul stuff ?


47 posted on 08/28/2011 7:07:51 AM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Not Only Am I Absolutely Nobama, I am Absolutely Non Paul.)
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