Posted on 08/18/2011 8:38:20 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike
At the request of tea party leaders in Arizona, famed Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio has promised to investigate the validity of Barack Obama's purported long-form birth certificate in a determination of the president's eligibility for the county's 2012 election ballot.
Read more: Arizona sheriff promises Obama-eligibility probe http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=335261#ixzz1VRTcHdoo
(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...
You have an offer on record. An offer that you won’t accept.
You know full well you wouldn’t win, so you won’t take the bet.
I formally extend the same offer to you. $1000 dollars to FR under the terms presented in post #157.
Yes, or no?
Obama having been born in Kenya or Indonesia.
Travel ban to Pakistan.
The SSN nonsense.
Claiming the COLB and the long form are forgeries.
The role of standing in the legal system.
And so on...
Most anything Orly Taitz ever said.
Anything that supports Birther assumptions, no matter how tenuous, is embraced.
Here’s something I’ve started to wonder about. Namely, why does Soros fund the anti-bither movement? Over at Fogbow they call him “the boss”. Now why would they call him that if he had no authority over the site? The boss is the one who calls the shots. How would Soros occupy that position if he weren’t bankrolling the place?
So anyway, if Soros is ‘the boss’, and Fogbow exists day and night to mock ‘birfers’ - what’s up? We keep being told by fellow conservatives that this is a losing and embarrassing issue. If that were true, Soros would either ignore it or else actually encourage us (via back channels).
But he’s on the other side, paying people to attack us. That doesn’t sound like a losing issue to me. It sounds like a potentially devastating issue for Obama, and Soros is trying to head it off at the pass.
Fwiw.
“I’ve seen several quotes from a passage in Revelations that says the beast will rule for 42 months.”
1. “and they will trample over the holy city for forty-two months.” Rev 11:2
Anyone who feels that America is a Divinely inspired nation (i.e a Holy City), probably feels like America is currently being trampled on.
2. “The beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months.” Rev 13:5
Although this beast needs a teleprompter to utter haughty and blasphemous words, forty-two months can’t come soon enough.
MHGinTN is one of the staunchest fighers for Constitutional principles on this website. I've known him (on FR) since 2002 and his character is unassailable. He only appears vicious to those on the wrong side of the Constitution.
[People posing as conservatives...]
But he’s on the other side, paying people to attack us. That doesn’t sound like a losing issue to me. It sounds like a potentially devastating issue for Obama, and Soros is trying to head it off at the pass.
BINGO!!!
1) Are the Hawaiian vital records you use as evidence the two COLB’s? If so, those have been already shown as FAKE.
2) Do you find it a coincidence the two 1961 birth announcements came out at about the same time as the 1st COLB, and 10 days after Thelma Leforge (who lived in the residence on the newspaper birth announcements) passed away?
If not, here is basically irrefutable evidence that the two birth announcements are phony:
http://myveryownpointofview.wordpress.com/2010/09/18/round-pegs-in-square-holes/
3) What statements by Ann Dunham are you talking about? The ones from ‘Dreams from My Father’?
That’s the crux of it, isn’t it? It would be one thing if bona fide conservatives were hashing it out. All families have disagreements, and if they’re good families they resolve them. But what we have with the ‘birther’ issue is family members, or in some cases so-called family members, aligning themselves with our arch-enemy, Soros. That’s what makes this issue so vile. And I say it again. If I were carrying Soros’ water, I would stop and think about it. And I guarantee I wouldn’t continue to serve his purpose. If Soros is for it, I’m against it.
GASP!
Imagine that. WND misleads conservatives again on the eligibility issue. I am shocked ... shocked! /s
Not! WND has done nothing but lead birthers around by the nose on this issue. They repeat demonstrably false information and misreport events or misinterpret the law when it suits their narrative. They’re pathetic opportunists.
Every conservative freeper I am familiar with who thinks the eligibility issue is a losing issue, or can never gain traction, or can’t be proven, never posts on these threads. They are busy doing their best to promote constitutional principles and defeat 0h0m0’s agenda in other ways.
No real conservative who thinks the eligibility issue is a waste of time wastes their time on it.
So....it’s pretty easy to understand what’s what and who’s who and their motives. High pitched protestations mean nothing. In fact, they only damn themselves more, the more they squeal.
Exactly. The relentlessness, the vitriol, the obsessive/compulsive mania, and in particular the anger, hatred and over the top ridicule are not indicative of conservatives countering what they perceive to be a ‘waste of time’. There are some truly ugly dynamics at work in this issue, and they trace far more back to Soros than to fellow conservatives worried that we might be wasting our time.
“Although this beast needs a teleprompter to utter haughty and blasphemous words, forty-two months can’t come soon enough.”
Good Point! Obama is an evil, lying, coercive narcisist intent on destroying the United States as we know it. But assuming that he is the anti-Christ gives Obama way too much credit! He is an incompetent idiot with no obvious supernatural powers. The Prince of Darkness must be extremely offended that so many people are mistaking one of his low level flunkies for the genuine article.
If I were carrying Soros’ water, I would stop and think about it.
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exactly. Soros is pure evil.
i don’t need to know ANYTHING about a position,
to know i should be on the other side of him.
Soros actually pays people, to attack birthers! why?
if El Sordo is correct, Soros should PAY BIRTHERS.
so WHY do so many try so hard to discourage us?
WHY are these people PROUD to be with Soros?
and they spend a TREMENDOUS amount of their own time,
trying to help us stop “wasting” our time...
(out of the goodness of their hearts?)
Amazing.
Who says he isn't? I suspect some of the more fringe birthers are getting paid to distract FR birthers who have legitimate questions from the important aspects of the eligibility issue.
so WHY do so many try so hard to discourage us?
Disagreeing with you is not equivalent to discouraging you. That you believe it is speaks volumes about your inability to process information or perhaps your ability to exercise Alinsky tactics.
trying to help us stop “wasting” our time...
If you want to cast your pearls before swine, go for it. Nobody's stopping you.
That’s it in a nutshell. You can slice it thirteen different ways and it’s still not going to make sense. If the issue is as bad for us as some on this site claim, then why are Soros and the moonbat liberals attacking us like the hounds of hell? There are entire far left liberal radical moonbat sites devoted to the 24/7 tactic of Alinsky ridicule against so-called ‘birfers’. The mockery is crude, over the top and vicious. Why, if the existence of ‘birfers’ helps Obama so much, don’t they back off? Their resources could be used elsewhere, for crying out loud.
Here’s an analogy. There’s a war on. Both sides are fighting fiercely. Off to one side there’s a small group of keystone-cop style soldiers. They’re standing around in a circle shooting each other in the feet. [This is what Soros-funded Obots and ‘concern conservatives’ say ‘birfers’ are doing.]
Our side would have us believe the opposing general is going to devote several battalions of trained, loyal troops to combatting the keystone soldiers. Give me a break—that’s just silly.
Otoh, if the small detachment is NOT comprised of keystone soldiers but rather presents a grave, growing threat to the enemy, then yes, the general would pour his resources into defeating them—which is exactly what we see happening.
I’m a little confused, though - “he has agreed to “simply look at the evidence these people have assembled and examine whether it is within my jurisdiction to investigate the document’s authenticity.”
Whether it’s within his jurisdiction to investigate the document’s authenticity??? What if he comes back and says it isn’t - will he then let people know a “more appropriate” agency or whatever that DOES have the jurisdiction to investigate?
If the candidate is ineligible and swore he was eligible, then a crime has been committed against the state’s elections system and sheriff Joe is well within his ‘jurisdiction’ to investigate said possible crime since his county falls in the jurisdictional arena of the state’s agency and resident voters of his county would have been defrauded.
At a minimum it raises the national dialogue similar to Trump’s assertions because Sheriff Joe is a national figure.
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