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Judge Intervenes to Prevent Homeschooled Catholic Children from Getting Hooked on Phonics
Homeschool Legal Defense Association HSLDA via First Thoughts Blog ^ | June 2, 2011 | Joe Carter

Posted on 06/09/2011 6:13:55 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

Four children ages 9, 7, 5 and 3 from a homeschooling Catholic family in Notre-Dame-des-Bois in Québec, Canada have been ordered into public school for socialization and non-phonics reading instruction. As Lydia McGrew explains:

This case from Canada, which one would like to think couldn’t happen in the U.S., is a fairly egregious example of judicial micromanagement: Judge Nicole Bernier (it would be a female judge!) ordered four children from a home schooling family into school and, in the case of children too young for school (down to age 3), into daycare so as to get what Judge Bernier calls “socialization.” To add injury to injury, Bernier wants the children to go to public school so that they will be taught to read (or, as the case may be, not taught to read) by non-phonics methods!

Now, this is crazy. The parents have not been accused of abusing or neglecting their children. Judge B. (by whatever ill fate she was brought into these innocent people’s lives) is just having a grand old time throwing around her weight and forcing them to raise their children as Judge B. would, presumably, raise her children. The notion of any sort of familial independence to make judgment calls about education is nowhere in the picture. (For the record, while I am a staunch advocate of phonics, I would consider laughable and pernicious the suggestion that some judge should interfere if parents were “caught” teaching their children to read by a look-say method.)

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TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: publicschools; quebec
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To: Spudx7
Funny how the idea of government controlling their healthcare had them up in arms; but the thought of anyone pulling children from government school was extremely offensive to them.

I'm thinking they didn't find it "offensive" that you and your husband pulled your kids from government-run schools, but that they felt like a bunch of dupes who had been conned all their lives about government-run schools. Sort of like the "crabs in a bucket" syndrome, if you know what I mean.

21 posted on 06/09/2011 7:29:50 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Alberta's Child
You're probably right, I hadn't thought of that. One man even asked the Superintendent if it was legal for a teacher to homeschool.

I am amazed at how so many people pour themselves into their children's school through involvement in athletic booster clubs and other activities. Their lives seem to be centered around our local school.

22 posted on 06/09/2011 7:41:23 PM PDT by Spudx7
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To: Spudx7
I seem to remember reading a similar story some years ago from the Seattle area. That case involved actual outrage by a lot of people in the school district, because the person in question was a school principal!
23 posted on 06/09/2011 7:44:19 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("If you touch my junk, I'm gonna have you arrested.")
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hooked on Socialism.


24 posted on 06/09/2011 7:44:27 PM PDT by denydenydeny (Rage all you want, looters & moochers, but the gods of the copybook headings are your masters now.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
That's a far cry from the Pol Pot methods I'd endorse when it comes to leftists.

25 posted on 06/09/2011 7:53:54 PM PDT by I see my hands (Embrace misanthropy)
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To: Clintonfatigued; 2Jedismom; 6amgelsmama; AAABEST; aberaussie; adopt4Christ; Aggie Mama; agrace; ...

Ping


26 posted on 06/09/2011 7:55:37 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: muawiyah
muawiyah said: "Phonics is a guide to decoding what the words are saying to you."

The phonetic properties of the letters is what distinguishes our written language from, say, Chinese, with tens of thousands of characters to memorize.

Ignoring this property effectively doubles the effort required to learn both the spoken and written language. My grandson learned the phonetic values of the letters before learning the actual names of the letters.

27 posted on 06/09/2011 7:58:54 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Alberta's Child

People get angry, but never seem to ask what does he know about the school that I don’t?


28 posted on 06/09/2011 8:06:46 PM PDT by Spudx7
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To: Clintonfatigued

Phonics is by far the best way to learn to read. I was lucky enough to have an old-school first grade teacher who taught phonics. I learned to read in a week (literally) and by the next year was reading chapter books on my own. My older brother was unlucky enough to land in a look-say first grade classroom, and didn’t get up to grade-level reading until about 4th grade. And he was never much interested in school, largely because of his early experiences.

My 4 y.o. twins are interested in words now, and I am starting to teach them (informally — they are only 4, after all!) how to sound out words. They are constantly running around here sounding out everything they can find. I am sure they will be proficient readers in a couple of years.

Pnonics really is the only way to teach reading!


29 posted on 06/09/2011 11:28:45 PM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ("And I'm actually happy to be, for us to be the moat with alligators party." -- Mark Steyn)
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To: Christian Engineer Mass
The Origins of Political Correctness

Political Correctness is, ironically, the politically correct term for "Cultural Marxism".

So, indeed, they've made fascism sound "nice" by using a different term, but if you think they're functionally different, we'll have to disagree.

30 posted on 06/10/2011 5:22:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: I see my hands

If the “good guys” don’t realize soon that the “bad guys” want to EXTERMINATE us and act accordingly,

I’m afraid the bad guys are going to succeed.


31 posted on 06/10/2011 5:23:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: demkicker

There’s always “Henry Bowman, pick up the white courtesy phone, your hogs are hungry.”

Just sayin’...

When there is no other recourse, the fascists bring certain things upon themselves.


32 posted on 06/10/2011 5:24:31 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Spudx7; Alberta's Child

I read a stat in some homeschool publication that said that of all professions, “public educators” had the highest rate of homeschooling.


33 posted on 06/10/2011 5:26:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Judge Nicole Bernier (it would be a female judge!) ordered four children from a home schooling family into school and, in the case of children too young for school (down to age 3), into daycare so as to get what Judge Bernier calls “socialization.”

Who wants socialist kids?

34 posted on 06/10/2011 8:14:32 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: demkicker
Of course not - no one can personally sue a judge based on their rulings - are you kidding me? Voting the judge out of office is their only recourse, unless they move to another jurisdiction.

Is that allowed?

35 posted on 06/10/2011 8:17:38 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Jeff Chandler
They prefer to Reach Across the Aisle®, My Friend™.

Reaching across the aisle to leftists is fine, as long as you're holding a flamethrower.

36 posted on 06/10/2011 8:19:41 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: muawiyah
I don't have a preference one way or the other since it's very common in my family for young children to learn to read spontaneously ~ sometimes as early as 3, but never later than 6 or 7.

When I was 3 or 4, I was riding with my mom in the car, and I said something about a Conoco station. Maybe she had said she needed gas or something. She asked how I new it was a Conoco station, and I said "Well, it says C-O-N-O-C-O. That spells 'Conoco', doesnt' it?"

37 posted on 06/10/2011 8:26:27 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: MrB
So, indeed, they've made fascism sound "nice" by using a different term, but if you think they're functionally different, we'll have to disagree.

I don't think it sounds "nice" at all. In fact, my usual statement is that if it were the normal actually-factually form of correctness, they wouldn't need the extra word, so then it must NOT be correct.

38 posted on 06/10/2011 8:28:45 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Our focus should be on the PHONICS part of this situation.

The Progressives who are running our public schools, know that if you cant read you are easily controlled. Whole language/ Sight and Say has created a nation of functional illiterates. PHONICS is their enemy so they constantly seek to abolish its use because they know it produces readers.

39 posted on 06/10/2011 8:38:43 AM PDT by codder too
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To: Still Thinking
My kids' first read word was PIZZA as in "Springfield Pizza", although one of them picked up "Pizza" looking down a roof in California somewhere ~ and he was right. Both were three as I recall.

You know what's more boring than watching paint dry? It's being 6 or 7 in a reading class and you already know how to read everything.

40 posted on 06/10/2011 9:00:41 AM PDT by muawiyah
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