Posted on 06/09/2011 1:51:48 PM PDT by rxsid
"Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obamas Birth In Hawaii.
I dont know how this slipped below my radar, but back on May 9, 2011, World Net Daily published an investigative report entitled, Bombshell: U.S. government questioned Obama citizenship, which in my opinion conclusively established that Obama was born in Hawaii. In that report, Aaron Klein revealed official documents stored in US immigration files which chronicle the troubles faced by Obamas mothers second husband, Lolo Soetoro, when he petitioned the US Government for a visa extension.
The WND report correctly notes that US officials expressed an interest in determining whether Soetoros step-son, President Obama, was actually a US citizen. The US officials who were handling Soetoros Visa extension application made copious notes in the file and the official comments therein illustrate that these officials doubted some of Soetoros statements. So, they decided to investigate the relationships listed in his application.
Below is the text of the relevant portion of the WND report:
One critical exchange is dated August 21, 1967, from Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif.Bensons query stated, There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouses son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status and determine whether or not he is the applicants child within the meaning of Section 101(b)(1)(B) of the Act, who may suffer exceptional hardship within the meaning of Section 212(a).
The reference is to the Immigration and Naturalization Act, which defined a child as an unmarried person under 21 years of age who, among other qualifiers, could be a stepchild, whether or not born out of wedlock, provided the child had not reached the age of eighteen years at the time the marriage creating the status of stepchild occurred.
A response to Bensons inquiry came from one W.L. Mix of the central immigration office, who determined Obama was a U.S. citizen.
Mix replied: Pursuant to inquiry from central office regarding the status of the applicants spouses child by a former marriage.
The person in question is a United States citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is considered the applicants step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the childs mother on March 5, 1965.The files do not state how the office determined Obama was born in Honolulu.
So here we see the US Government looking into an application for Visa extension by Soetoro. Further review of those documents reveal that the officials did not trust everything in Soetoros application. Therefore, the Government officials wanted to establish whether Obama Jr. was truly a US citizen. They made a direct inquiry on this very issue. And they concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Again, this was established by W.L. Mix of the central immigration office.
Having taken such an exhaustive look into Soetoros application, and especially considering the governments examination of Obamas citizenship, I dont see how the government officials involved would have overlooked the fact that Stanley Ann Dunham would have been out of the US and far away in Kenya on the date W.L. Mix established as DOB for Obama if Obama had been born in Kenya.
Furthermore, a report today by WND, Documents show marriage of Obamas parents a sham, illustrates that a similar investigation as to Obama, Sr. was conducted when he was also applying for a Visa extension. Those official documents include a handwritten memo from the file, written by (presumed) INS official William Wood, which states that Obama Sr.s son, Barack Obama II, was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961.
Moreover, in todays WND article, Jerome Corsi concludes, as a result of reviewing all of the relevant INS documents, that if President Obama was born in Kenya, Dunham must have traveled there without Obama Sr., who was definitely in the US on August 4, 1961, according to these US Government records. This analysis by Corsi is correct. Obama Sr.s presence in the US at the time of Obamas birth is now sufficiently documented. This fact alone adds very heavy weight to President Obama having been born in the US.
I dont see how two sets of US government officials, independently investigating the relationships between Soetoro and Dunham on one hand, and Obama Sr. and Dunham on the other, could both fail to reveal that Dunham would have been in Kenya at the time of Obama Jr.s birth. The government officials wouldve had access to Dunhams passport files. The contents thereof were relevant to the investigations since she was married to both men, and the marriages were relevant to immigration status, as was the issue of children.
Those who persist in accusing Obama of not being born in Hawaii do so in light of official government investigations, between 1961 and 1966, which established his birth, to the satisfaction of inquisitive government immigration officials, as having taken place on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA.
As far as Im concerned, the issue is settled with a massive presumption of authenticity. I do not see how the information published by WND regarding US immigration official W.L. Mixs investigation into Obamas US citizenship flew so far below the radar. That is the single most important fact I have come across that establishes Obamas birth in Hawaii.
CLOSURE IS POSSIBLE WITH REGARD TO BC ISSUE.
For those who insist on keeping the birther circus alive and kickin (despite the info listed above), I believe there is a simple way to settle the issue once and for all. I have found two references to the fact that the US Government keeps passport issuance records for all passports issued. The most recent is from Congressional testimony on the House floor from March 10, 1998:
In addition, the committee on conference is aware that on weekends there is no Departmental procedure or mechanism to access the passport issuance records maintained by the Consular Affairs Bureau. The result is that when a foreign law enforcement authority inquires about the status of a person or passport on the weekend, the State Department does not or cannot respond. This is a clear deficiency in border security procedures. (See pg. 41/53 in the PDF counter.)
The second reference is to a US Government GAO report written for the Secretary of State that argued for the destruction of passport application materials. The destruction of such materials was the basis of more conspiracy theories as to Dunhams various passport applications and renewals requested in a previous FOIA by Christopher Strunk.
Unfortunately, the FOIA request by Strunk, which has been well documented online, failed to request passport issuance records for Stanley Ann Dunham. Strunk only requested passport application materials. And the governments reply to his FOIA request was specifically limited to passport application materials. Since Strunk didnt specifically ask for passport issuance records, the government was not obligated to search for those records but they do exist and they can be found.
The GAO report which refers to passport issue cards documents the destruction of passport application materials, but it notes that the Government retains all old passport issue cards:
During numerous discussions with GSA about document retention periods, Department officials have presented many reasons for the continued storage of original passport applications. They have placed great emphasis in pointing out that old passport applications can be used to derive the citizenship of others But other ways are just as reliable and effective Should the Department need to verify if a parent was ever issued a passport, old passport issue cards have been microfilmed and can be referenced by the Department. (See pg. 44/70 in the PDF counter.)
Therefore, if Stanley Ann Dunham had been issued a passport prior to President Obamas birth, there will be a passport issue card available with that information. If no such card exists, Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961, and Obama could not have been born in Kenya. She would have needed a passport to be in Kenya.
It is my opinion that a proper FOIA request for passport issue cards (or copies thereof) will establish that Stanley Ann Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961. Such a request must be SPECIFICALLY designed to eliminate all wiggle room. I suggest the following wording:
Please forward all passport issue cards and/or microfilm or microfiche copies, or any other copies thereof or any other documents which reference the issuance of any passport for Stanley Ann Dunham. To be perfectly clear in my FOIA request, please understand that I am NOT interested in passport application materials. Please limit your response and documents to passport issue cards or copies thereof as well as any other documents which the government possesses for Stanley Ann Dunham that refer to her being issued a US passport.
Any FOIA request should NOT ask for more than the passport issuance materials. I cannot stress enough how important it is that the FOIA be strictly limited as suggested above. Such a FOIA should end this conspiracy theory with authority and finality.
I should note that I have come across a certain rabid Obama eligibility supporter who alleges to have done a proper FOIA request as to passport issuance materials. I do not trust this source and I do not have access to the EXACT wording of the alleged FOIA request. Suffice to say that anyone who wants true closure on the place of birth issue should do a FOIA strictly worded as I have suggested above requesting passport issuance documents for Stanley Ann Dunham.
I nominate the folks at WND to take this on and make all aspects public since they are the main news resource for this issue. They are invited to take the suggested FOIA request as written above (in red) and to run with it.
The fourth estate has the power and responsibility to see this through. They should thoroughly document the exact wording of the FOIA request, and they should also document the stages of compliance by the government to such a request as is required by law. Definitive documentation regarding whether Stanley Ann Dunham held a passport prior to August 4, 1961 is readily available to the public.
The Government is required to respond to the EXACT request made. No mention of passport application materials should be forwarded by the government in response to a properly worded FOIA request for passport issuance cards (or other issuance documents). We know the cards/documents exist and that they are necessary to the government as is proved by the GAO report and Congressional testimony.
The GAO notes in their report from 1981 that while passport application materials may be destroyed, passport issue cards are kept. This is beyond dispute.
If no passport issuance documents can be found for Obamas mother prior to his date of birth, then he could not have been born in Kenya.
I am not a person who needs to see anymore proof. I believe now and have always believed President Obama was born in Hawaii. But if you still have doubts, this line of inquiry is crucially necessary.
The BC issue and the birther circus surrounding it have served Obama well. Like Chester Arthur before him, the nation was thoroughly distracted by the place of birth faux conspiracy whilst the true legal question concerning his dual national status despite place of birth was obscured.
Everyone loves a big green juicy salacious conspiracy theory. Thats much more fun than a certified boring legal question, the answer to which was never in the hands of Obama, whereas the BC always was. He who controls the game, controls the outcome. (Ever get the feeling youve been cheated? Johnny Rotten)
I am writing this to clear your attention spans for what will be the most authoritative and well documented analysis I have to offer on the dual national issue concerning Obamas perpetual POTUS eligibility dilemma. I do not want the circus to obstruct the law. If you understand the importance of this post, you will pass it on far and wide so the attention of the nation can focus on the true Constitutional crisis.
Leo Donofrio, Esq."
EXCERPT:
Nelson Ochieng, a cousin of Mr Obama who lives in the Kenyan city of Kisumu, near the family village of Kogelo, said that Omar had changed his first name after moving to the US. Before he went to America we all knew him as Omar, but he dropped that bit, changing it to Obama Onyango, because he said he preferred his African name, he said. Gail Greenberger, the landlady who bought the four-storey brick block of flats at a foreclosure sale in 1994, knew her tenant, however, by the name Obama Onyango. We used to call him Oh-bummer!. That is how I pronounced Obama in 2000, she said.
Ms Greenberger said she inherited him with the building but was forced to evict him in 2000 for nonpayment of his rent of about $500 a month. I remember him being decent but I think he lost his job. When they lose their job, they just stop paying rent. He did not even go to court. He bolted from the apartment, she said. Records of Boston Housing Court show a summary process was executed against Mr Onyango on February 23, 2000, for unpaid rent of $2,324.70.
Mr Onyango was a business partner in a convenience store called the Wells Market at 1760 Dorchester Avenue, now a Hispanic bodega, or grocery. Records list him as the treasurer of the corporation, which was set up without his name in 1992 and involuntarily wound up in 2007 after failing to file annual reports since 1997.
In 1994 Obama Onyango was attacked in an armed robbery at the Wells Market, the Boston Herald reported. According to a police report, two masked black males entered the store around 9.30pm on June 7, 1994, and did assault and beat the victim, and did rob victim of an undetermined amount of US currency. Suspects were believed to be armed with a sawed-off rifle, and did flee the area on foot . ...
Exactly. Everyone knows he'd have gotten it updated or issued the extra special POTUS one, if there's such a thing. Remember when he claimed he got his first one when he became a Senator. Just proves he was so special even back then that he was above passports all those times in and out of Indonesia, Australia, Kenya, Pakistan, etc. Well, special or a liar, take your pick.
"It was a very very interesting insight into what it was like, especially the times that he was talking about with his brother, when they were boys on the block years ago"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KufghlWp9AU
Thanks for the ping.
...It was a very very interesting insight into what it was like, especially the times that he was talking about with his brother, when they were boys on the block years ago
Very difficult to make head nor tail of two short snippets like that. The suggestion is that zero and who-ever it was that he means when he says 'growing up with Barack' was in Kenya.
Which indicates to me that the little Dark boy, the child of Anna Obama was the one he 'grew up with' and he either believes or wants us to believe they were one and the same person...as the individual, zero, with whom he (Malik) was 'boys on the block (with)years ago' and that appears to refer to Malik living in the US during that period...
Which of course he wasn't, could not have been - the same individual. Zero showed up in Hawaii at the age of three, and if Malik was born in 1958 as we are expected to believe, Malik would have been three years of age when zero was born...
I think Malik may have made an important mistake, the boy 'Barack' he 'grew up with...' WAS his HALF-BROTHER...the son of the kenyan and Anna Obama, who surfaced in 1992 after almost a decade at the Lumumba University...with the name ROMAN OBAMA...who now, it appears, is an Administration official for Equatorial Guinea, in Accra, Ghana.
Difficult to follow? I guess it's meant to be.
The memo is dated 1964, Obama's wife in Hawaii is referred to, but Obama's senior's son in Hawaii, who was supposedly born on Aug. 4, 1961 in Kapiolani Hospital, is not mentioned in the 1964 memo.
It is as if, for some unknown reason, Obama senior purposely did not mention Obama junior, who would have been about 3 years old when the memo was signed in 1964.
I find it strange that Obama senior did not mention Obama junior in 1964---or even during his earlier years at Harvard--- because if he told Havard and immigration officials from the first time that he arrived at Harvard in 1962 that he had a son born in the United States in 1961, maybe Harvard and immigration officials would have been more sympathetic when it looked at his immigration extension request a few years later.
But, no, it seems that Obama senior never told either Harvard or immigration officials that he had a son, Obama junior, who was 3 years old and lived in Hawaii.
Why Obama senior may not have told Harvard and immigration officials about 3 year old American-born Obama junior, I have no idea.
The only thing I can think of is that Obama junior was not really Obama senior's real son.
There are too many people who know stuff, for the truth to remain hidden forever.
People can only be paid off, threatened and blackmailed for so long. Sooner or later the dam will break.
See comment #525. Seems to me he couldn't claim to have a son in Hawaii and name him, he might have been asked to provide a birth certificate to substantiate the claim...and he would not have been able to claim Stanley Ann Dunham as wife AND mother, because the birth certificate would have shown a birthdate around January 1961, and ANNA (maiden name) OBAMA as mother.
The above image shows the kenyan with a dark boy about four years of age, and Ruth is holding Mark, supposedly born in 1964.
Zero and the son of the Kenyan
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2732437/posts?page=33#33
this is what it looks like IMO...
Once it becomes clear that Zero is not the son of the Kenyan, nor of Stanley Ann, then the next question is - who were his parents, then?
And - where was he born?
Very interesting, somehow I missed this.
So no evidence of previous marriage submitted. Hmm Hmm Hmm. Therefore the thingummy was denied.
Certainly if Stanley had had evidence of the previous marriage she would have supplied it.
It’s conjecture...but I do think that all that divorce doc was good for, was to allow her to take zero out of the country...and as Beckwith commented, there are no documents what can be considered to be valid without PROVENANCE.
baby steps...
It took me a few baby steps and then the Auntie thread showed me the light!
For lurkers, it’s a great read, start to finish, it makes a LOT of things clear, and don’t cling to the Dreams mythology!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2702976/posts
Will read, thanks -
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DNA TEST: I sure would like Obama and his aunt to submit to DNA TESTS so that we can be sure that they are related.
But I guess such DNA tests will occur only on the day hell freezes over, which, coincidentally, happens to be the same hell-freezes-over day when Obama will give Kapiolani Hospital officials permission to let reporters examine his Aug. 4, 1961 birth records.
The dead infant and the birth-certificate mystery
Researcher who suspects forgery finds possible reason for Obama registration number
http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=300201
Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ 29839 Santa Margarita Pkwy, ste 100 Rancho Santa Margarita, CA 92688 ph 949-683-5411 fax 949-766-7603 orly.taitz@gmail.com 06.04.2011
Loretta Fuddy Director of Health Department State of Hawaii 1250 Punchbowl str. Room 325 Honolulu HI 96813
Re: UIPA request for Long form Birth certificate for Virginia Sunahara
Dear Ms. Fuddy,
According to the state public records law, Uniform Information practices act, found in chapter 92F, Hawaii revised statutes, I am requesting a certified copy of the original long form birth certificate for Virginia Sunahara, born August 4, 1961 in Honolulu HI, deceased August 5, 1961, Honolulu HI. Sincerely Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ
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