News Release: Legal Proof That pResident Obama’s Certificate Of Live Birth Is A Forgery (Lengthy)

ObamaRelease YourRecords ^ | Tuesday, May 17, 2011

[Red Steel]

LOL...I only got to the first few post and what do you know....the same ol posters spending their time telling us how we're wasting ours.....go figure.

Great job putting this thread together!

Yeah, two of them were quick. They must hover around spending their time waiting to pounce. *Snicker* And thanks. :-)

[PA Engineer]

You posted a portion of the “flattened” AP document. This was covered quite extensively in the Denninger videos.

[American Constitutionalist]

Red ? if you look at some of the boxes, you can see a faint inner box as if someone superimposed a clear plastic over it with the lines and letters.

[ml/nj]

On what basis?

How about this?

BAMIE BC II IS AN OBVIOUS FRAUD
 

Note: this is an unretouched image. You can duplicate this simply on your own machine by going to http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/rss_viewer/birth-certificate-long-form.pdf. Once the document opens in your browser, specify that you want to view the document at 1000% (10x) magnification in the little dialog box in the toolbar above the document. Then scroll down about 60% and right about 60% to to get to where you can view the Dunham and Sinclair signatures at the same time.

The different size pixels that make up the two different signatures could not occur in a single scan of an original document. This is prima facie evidence of fraud.

Find one, just one, document posted to the internet prior to April of this year that purports to be a single scan of a single document that exhibits multiple pixelations; and prove me wrong.

ML/NJ

[PA Engineer]

Yeah, two of them were quick. They must hover around spending their time waiting to pounce. *Snicker* And thanks. :-)

At least they are becoming fewer and everyone knows who they are now. I suspect we will see a "sock" change.

[Jeff Winston]

I follow the COLB fraud threads. You have been shot down on every one of them. You do not offer facts, but claims and testaments.

I have specifically mentioned FOUR factual claims in this thread that are easy to verify, that contradict what is being claimed. Refute them if you can.

When you factually refute my factual claims, instead of falsely claiming that I have been shot down in every thread, then we'll talk.

Many of us have been around from the beginning of the "real" computer age and don't need to fall back on the fallacy of authority that you claim.

On the contrary, I've gone out of my way to AVOID relying on personal credentials.

What I have found is that there is no large conspiracy. There is a small group in the HDOH including the new Governor who have created a new "COLB" from at least three different existing COLBs. The "PDF" COLB was a fraud as was the previous one. Do you remember that one? They got away with it during certification. They threw it under the bus when things heated up.

It is certainly a plausible theory that a small group in the HDOH has created a forgery. If you can produce hard evidence to prove it, I would be very, very interested. So would a lot of other people.

There is no denial that Obama's law firm in Washington is using campaign funds to prevent any legal challenge.

Who's denying it? That is perfectly correct.

There is also no denial that the lawyers in this firm were the highest ranking members of the DNC.

I have no information on their background, but I'll take your word for it.

My question for you is simple. Without a gossamer of evidence you pretend to parade out testimonials.

I have no idea what you mean by testimonials. A testimonial is generally the testimony of a third party as to someone else's expertise. When have I ever paraded out a testimonial?

When others point it out, you attack with vicious ad hominem venom.

I pointed out that I was subjected to a vicious ad hominem attack. My MILDER questioning of the attacker's credentials was in response to that. Do you deny that? Please answer, yes or no.

Why are you really here on these threads?

Perhaps you won't mind if I point out that you follow up baselessly accusing me of ad hominem attacks by making one of your own.

[Red Steel]

Sure, the AP one was a scan of a printer copy.

[PA Engineer]

These are your words:

I guess I can just give up and let the nutjobs run FreeRepublic and promote demonstrably false nonsense as much as they want.

I think you need to change your socks.

[El Sordo]

Yeah, but everyone needs a hobby.

[El Sordo]

“A thousand invalid arguments aren’t going to prove the point,...”

What if they post them in ALL CAPS? How ‘bout then?

[woofie]

Thanks

so what is your assessment of this guy ( who put up the scibid doc) and his contentions?

Who is recognized a an authority on all this? anyone? Does it only get settled in court?

[El Sordo]

Yeah, but everyone needs a hobby.

[Red Steel]

At least they are becoming fewer and everyone knows who they are now. I suspect we will see a "sock" change.

El Socko has arrived.

[Jeff Winston]

More accurately? Seems the opposite.

If you carefully compare the first and second images, the typist in the first instance definitely got the X in the box better.

In the third image, the typist was already low on the line from the beginning, so didn't need to move the cylinder.

And why capitalize? Why waist the energy on the shift (a burden on a true manual since it has to physically lift the carriage)? Just type a lower-case x - like every other known LFBC of the period.

Some typists did. The Nordyke twins' certificates used the capital X as well.

An alignment - pre-set tabs were clearly used in all other LFBCs of the period.

Again not correct. The Nordyke certificates did not use them. Note particularly the huge variation in those certificates on residence city of the mother.

And Obama’s seniors age? He was 27 in 1961. Though for some reason he changed it on his I-539 forms later. But from 1959 to August 31, 1961 (in a form in his own hand) and in all INS records he was born in 1934 and was 27 in August 1961.

My theory is he probably told Dunham and her family he was 25. It's easier to get away with knocking up a 17-year-old if you're younger.

Kenya, East Africa....not a valid term. “Kenya” was used. But not Kenya, East Africa. It was British East Africa....

All depends on what Stanley Ann Dunham told the clerk, who probably had no real idea of official terminology. This was a county government office in Hawaii, so we have to consider who would've likely worked there.

And ain’t Alvin smiley fact cute.....

Not exactly proof of a forgery.

[Red Steel]

Find one, just one, document posted to the internet prior to April of this year that purports to be a single scan of a single document that exhibits multiple pixelations; and prove me wrong.

Maybe the NRO guy can explain that one too LoL.

[Jeff Winston]

There is no logical reason to believe the ORIGINAL birth certificate has been officially destroyed.

You may be correct. I could be wrong about that, and it may be in a box or on a shelf somewhere. I don't know the storage policies of government agencies when it comes to original documents dating from 50 years ago.

[Jeff Winston]

There is at least one site on the internet claiming that when Hawaii went paperless, the original documents were placed in long-term archival storage. So you may well be correct on that point.

[Kleon]

The different size pixels that make up the two different signatures could not occur in a single scan of an original document. This is prima facie evidence of fraud.

That's simply not true. Once again, this is an effect of an enhanced scan. I pulled up a PDF scan from Google Books (in this case, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland) and saw the exact same thing you claim is evidence of fraud.

Most likely, one signature, or part of the signature, was lighter and didn't get enhanced during the scan.

[PA Engineer]

I really don't know, but he did raise questions that many others missed. Everything will be up to the court. This was a victory. I believe it is the first time the authenticity of the birth certificate has been called into question as part of court record.

It will be interesting how Obama's law firm deals with this. My feelings are (after being hauled into court a few times for professional testimony) is anything they do beyond procedure may result in demands for an authenticated copy (paper) directly from HDOH to the court. These are smart people and they do not want to open that can of worms. This is why I have been following the case.

[PA Engineer]

LOL. I noticed that. It is just becoming too predictable.