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To: Gondring

“I believe that most illegal entries that occur are made in good faith.”

I agree, although I can understand a minority feeling persecuted, and in fact, we all know that “bitter clingers” are indeed being persecuted in some local areas and sometimes by the ATF.

“I believe that we must get to the point where we can agree that when a law enforcement officer is on the scene, it’s not something to fear. And if that trust is broken, then it’s the time we resist.”

Mutual respect comes from mutual power. The magna carta, the longbow, and the need for hearty sea farers forced British nobles to respect the common man. That was what moulded our culture, especially when we had colonists being attacked by some of my ancestors [’injuns]. They needed to be strongly armed, and the British government had little choice but to encourage that prior to Lexington and Concord.


263 posted on 05/18/2011 7:35:53 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March (George Washington: [Government] is a dangerous servant and a terrible master.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
I agree, although I can understand a minority feeling persecuted, and in fact, we all know that “bitter clingers” are indeed being persecuted in some local areas and sometimes by the ATF.

Agreed.

Mutual respect comes from mutual power

Funny thing is, it's the cops who get screwed over by the courts more than anyone else. The private citizen already has lots of power over the police (ability to sue).

Plus, I think there should be personal liability in cases of negligence that lead to illegal entries, for example. (I also favor personal responsibility on public officials, too...not just "oh, well, the municipal insurance [i.e., the taxpayers' money] will pay for it.")

265 posted on 05/18/2011 7:46:44 AM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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