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Was Obama an Indonesian citizen? [Evidence raises concerns over presidential qualification]
WND ^ | May 08, 2011 | Aaron Klein

Posted on 05/09/2011 8:35:43 PM PDT by RobinMasters

Evidence continues to mount that President Obama was adopted by his Indonesian stepfather, Lolo Soetoro, raising concerns over his presidential eligibility.

Obama's American mother, Ann Dunham, separated from her first husband, Barack Obama Sr., in 1963 when the president was 2 years old. Dunham and Obama Sr. are reported to have later divorced.

In Hawaii, Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian, in 1965 and moved to Indonesia in October 1967.

Divorce documents filed in Hawaii on Aug. 20, 1980, refer to Obama as the "child" of both Soetoro and Dunham, indicating a possible adoption in the U.S.

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The divorce records state: "The parties have 1 child(ren) below age 18 and 1 child(ren) above 18 but still dependent on the parties for education."

The records further identify the "oldest child" as "in university."

"Mother resides with youngest child in 4-bedroom house provided by mother's employer," continues the divorce documents.

The documents identify the minor as Obama's stepsister, Maya Soetoro.

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To: GregNH
SIGH
121 posted on 05/10/2011 10:40:30 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Brown Deer
"So do out of state students. Who paid for his expensive schooling and travels all over the world? "

Don't know, don't care. Wherever he traveled, and whomever paid for it or his education, has absolutely no legal bearing on his American citizenship statutes.

122 posted on 05/10/2011 10:40:56 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: OldDeckHand

Granted that. But that is only his name. Not his signature. And he denied his supposed son in at least formal documents between 1961 and 1963. And with the formal divorce filing 1964 - the records have been ‘cleaned up’. Not recently probably in 1964. If his name was not on the initial record it was after that divorce. That divorce is the anchor and the scorched earth to everything prior. As it was done in the 1960s.

But did Obama even KNOW he had a son? Or did he ever acknowledge it for doubts before 1964? Other than old hippie governor there is no collaborating evidence - formally or informally that Obama Senior ever acknowledged his namesake until April 1964.


123 posted on 05/10/2011 10:41:03 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: Fresh Wind

Here is a citation of young Barry dreaming of becoming the PM of Indonesia. No need to provide it to the SP. He demands a link, and then dismisses anything you give him. I speak from experiences.

http://minx.cc/?post=315118


124 posted on 05/10/2011 10:42:57 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
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To: Tennessee Nana

Who would be the one who issues a valid marriage license over in ukulele land???


125 posted on 05/10/2011 10:47:34 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: bluecat6
"So SAD in Philippines in 1964???? Why?"

How is the travel agenda of Obama's mother relevant to OBama's citizenship? Where she was in 1964, or why she was there, is immaterial to her son's citizenship, is it not?

"Pregnancy termination? After all one baby for a single mom in 1964 had to be hard. Two?"

Why would a woman who had family in HI, and was herself living off and on in HI, leave HI - one of the few states during the 1960s where abortion was legal - to travel to the Philippines to have an abortion? And, was abortion even legal in the Philippines? As catholic and Muslim as that country was and is, I would doubt it, highly.

Again, I don't think it has any relevance on Obama's citizenship, but I am fascinated by your logic.

126 posted on 05/10/2011 10:50:30 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: bluecat6
That is a valid question. But it is hard to logistically believe Kenya is the answer.

Maybe to you, but NOT to some of us followed this case way, way back including brought to light in court cases!

By his own admission!!

By his wife's own admission and even a Grandmother and other family members plus the Kenyan U.S. Ambassador and a plethora of other sources on records!!!

127 posted on 05/10/2011 10:55:14 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: OldDeckHand; curiosity; Jim Robinson
How many different countries has your president been a citizen of?

Do you believe that a person who has questionable allegiance to the United States of America should be the President of our country?

Do you believe that your president has questionable allegiance to the United States?

Do you believe that only a natural born citizen as stated in the Constitution of the United States can be President of our country?

Do you believe that your president is a natural born citizen of the United States?

Do you believe that Barack Hussein 0bama should be removed from office?

Are you going to continue to fight us on ANY of our deeply held beliefs?
128 posted on 05/10/2011 10:55:47 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: OldDeckHand
Don't know, don't care.

Didn't think you did.
129 posted on 05/10/2011 10:56:50 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: bluecat6
"But did Obama even KNOW he had a son? "

First, keep in mind the context in which we're debating this issue - the question being discussed is "Was Obama adopted in Indonesia, and if so, why doesn't his HI birth certificate that was released, reflect that adoption"

In that context, it doesn't matter if Obama's father did or did not know about his own son's birth, ever really. All that matters is how Hawaiian law viewed Barack Obama as Jr's legal parent. If they were married in the eyes of the HI law, which seems clear that they were, and Sr's name is on the birth certificate, and clearly it was, then Stanly Ann Dunham would have had to sue to terminate her ex-husband's parental rights before a step-parent adoption could have been recognized by HI law - which would then have allowed a HI judge to issue a court order to amend the birth certificate.

There is absolutely no evidence any of that happened.

And, BTW, even if ALL of that did happen, it would have had absolutely no impact on Obama's citizenship status as he CLEARLY returned to the US WELL before attaining the age of majority, which by any account would have FULLY preserved his US citizenship.

130 posted on 05/10/2011 11:00:24 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Brown Deer
Every one of those questions is wholly irrelevant.

To date, not a single court has moved to take this issue up. And, in every understanding of existing US statutory and constitutional law, the ONLY way to remove a sitting president is by impeachment in the House and conviction in the Senate.

I'm sorry you're either too obtuse to understand these very elementary American jurisprudential concepts, or too argumentative to care.

Personally, I agree with Mark Levin on this issue. Period.

131 posted on 05/10/2011 11:04:22 AM PDT by OldDeckHand
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To: Brown Deer
Whatever he authored, and whatever you think it accomplished, it doesn't change the fact that he's a 9/11 Truther - the lowest of the low, the scummiest of the scummy.

You just got to remember that his wife is a college professor, maybe here in FLa, and his friend is also of that same breed brainwashing the kids' head scull full of mush, so phluease have some mercy!!!

132 posted on 05/10/2011 11:06:05 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Mr Rogers; GregNH; Tennessee Nana

Lets be clear here aka Ms WKA. You do know that Marie Elg’s parents were American citizens at the time of her birth in the United States. She was born on soil and received her US citizenship from her father by blood making her a Natural Born citizen.


133 posted on 05/10/2011 11:07:15 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: OldDeckHand; Brown Deer
has absolutely no legal bearing on his American citizenship statutes.

To get it real clear, apart from his father signing the b.c., are you referring to his NBC status???

Stimulus money at work!!!

134 posted on 05/10/2011 11:10:26 AM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Fantasywriter
He demands a link, and then dismisses anything you give him. I speak from experiences.

Yeah, so I've noticed. Trolls are like that.

135 posted on 05/10/2011 11:22:49 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: RobinMasters
Obama's American mother, Ann Dunham, separated from her first husband, Barack Obama Sr., in 1963 when the president was 2 years old.

WHYYYYY does WND keep reporting this obvious lie? They never were together in the first place. It's a bit difficult to be the happy little family if the wife and husband are two states and 3000 miles apart.

136 posted on 05/10/2011 11:25:21 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: curiosity

So tell me, what do YOU want to be when you grow up?


137 posted on 05/10/2011 11:30:43 AM PDT by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: OldDeckHand
Substitute "name" for "signature".

In which one of your arguments?

Obama Sr. legally claimed his parental rights with his signature on that birth certificate...

His signature is on the birth certificate. How can it be reasonably argued that isn't an "acknowledgement" of the child's birth?

Please inform us as to how his "name" being on a birth certificate (that even you haven't seen) is an acknowledgement by Obama, Sr. of a birth. The fact is, there is not one single document in all of his INS documents where he himself has acknowledged having a child with Stanley Ann Dunham!
138 posted on 05/10/2011 11:34:08 AM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: RobinMasters
"Mother resides with youngest child in 4-bedroom house provided by mother's employer," continues the divorce documents.

Except Hussein claims they were poor. Nice perks in a third world country where people had dirt floors.

139 posted on 05/10/2011 11:34:29 AM PDT by bgill (Kenyan Parliament - how could a man born in Kenya who is not even a native American become the POTUS)
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To: OldDeckHand
Every one of those questions is wholly irrelevant.

Why do you hate America?

140 posted on 05/10/2011 11:36:56 AM PDT by Plummz (pro-constitution, anti-corruption)
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