Posted on 05/06/2011 12:50:06 PM PDT by TheFreedomPoster
VIDEO: Prominent pollster, Frank Luntz, after seeing his focus group's overwhelmingly positive (almost unanimous among the group) reaction to Herman Cain, said, "Something very special is happening this evening", and called it "unprecedented". Luntz asked the audience who before last night's debate in South Carolina, started out supporting Cain, and only one hand went up. Then, he asked how many supported Cain after the debate, and easily more than half of the hands went up. The responses from individuals in the audience were energetically positive...
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Some libtard (or Paultard - sometimes you can never tell) on Wikipedia updated the debate entry with the following info (updates in red):
"After the May 5, 2011 Fox News sponsored Presidential debate, Cain was declared the overwhelming winner by controversial pollster Frank Luntz. According to Frank Luntz who has been censured by the National Council on Public Polls for mischaracterizing focus groups in the past, Herman Cain walked in with only one supporter, and walked out with a majority."
Sigh. Some people are incredibly underhanded in the way they try to sway public opinion.
Item #2: Cain was Chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City. He has also stated he doesn't think the Fed needs to be audited? Hrm. Not sure I trust this. I'm getting to the point where I lack faith in anyone associated with the Fed.
At the same time, he wants a return to the Gold Standard. OK - that's good, but in order to do that, we would need to audit the Fed, Herman. Make up your mind.
Overall, though, I could see myself supporting him. He would need to pick a solid VP with good Washington experience to help him navigate those murky waters.
I’m thinking Barry isn’t going to debate anyone unless he can do it using his teleprompter, or via telecast.
He was a member of the Federal Reserve Board.
I love Allen West - I especially enjoy watching him take down hecklers, ha - but there is no way he is the right choice for a Cain ticket.
Think about it: Cain is a Washington outsider. That’s *good*. Very good, in fact. But he needs someone who knows all the tricks to beat the demonrats at their own game.
Personally, I’d love to see a Herman Cain - Paul Ryan ticket.
Nope it is’t too late. Cain is out there fighting. The top tier(although none of them deserve to be) is dithering under the impression they are so special they don’t even have to work for it.
The American people, on our side, won’t crown anyone. If they want to fight, then get to it. We don’t give a rats ass about their TV contracts one bit. If a candidate can’t decide whether being President is more more important than their TV contract, they aren’t worth a vote.
Herman Cain and all the others on the stage last night are up to the fight.
That counts for a lot.
You probably could have said that about Obama in May, 2007. The problem is that Cain doesn't have $750 million which allowed Obama to make sure he was on at least one TV channel 24/7.
Cain is a good man and I agree he did win the debate, but he isn’t going to win the nomination. Just too many problems. Never been elected to anything, lost the one race he did enter, not particularly photogenic, kinda old, etc. And while it isn’t fair, having had stage 4 cancer will leave people wondering when a relapse might occur - basically, folks will have to wonder if he is going to die suddenly.
What we saw last night just isn’t going to cut it and didn’t showcase any of our top tier candidates. Maybe Pawlenty could be considered one of the serious candidates, but I am not sure anyone is ever going to get excited about Tpaw.
It is going to be hard to draw any conclusions or start backing any favorites in the Republican field till the top tier folks make decisions. I mean, if Palin were out there last night she would have made all of them look small in comparison.
Within a few months we should know what the serious part of the field will look like. Probably Palin, Huckabee, Romney, Daniels and maybe a surprise candidate like Christie.
“Gee whiz....conserve your energy, everybody. Cain is a good guy who will finish fifth place or lower in the primaries. He knows it, too.”
You never know, but I think you’re right - it’s still early.
Any candidate that steps out front now makes themselves a target and starts having to dip into their war chest. Better to hold fire and keep your powder dry until one can see the whites of Obama’s eyes.
A few things that bother me about the primary process and the way it it is shaping up: the Republicans seem to have a lot of ambivalance toward their candidates: they want a fresh faced messiah in the Obama mold or someone of stature in the Reagan mold and become somewhat disillusioned when prospective candidates are shown to have some baggage. They seem to ignore the fact that Obama has tons more baggage and that prospective candidates have to spend time making their case to the public.
The other thing that bothers me about the primary process is that it is an elimination process and so the prospective candidates who win the nomination are sometimes the last ones standing, having made the fewest mistakes, which is why we got McCain last time around, and Bob Dole before him.
Much as we would wish it weren’t so, choosing politicians is frequently an emotional decision for many, which is why candidates have to have more sizzle than substance. That can work in Republicans favor too: if Republicans can make Obama on object of derision, they can win easily no matter who they pick as their standard bearer. Rush Limbaugh does this on a daily basis.
He’s on my list of favorites. Heard about him just a couple of months ago, and the more I learn, the more I like.
As for most people not knowing him: if the media decides they don’t like him (because he’s an evil conservative, of course), everyone will know him. Look at Palin. Not many people knew much about her before McCain chose her; not many people didn’t know about her 2 months later. Of course, whether they knew the truth about her or not is another story...
NumbersUSA rates him poorly in the immigration area. D- I believe.
It would certainly make for an interesting campaign. And the RACE CARD would be REMOVED from the deck! THAT would be a blessing!
But since Cain is black, the media (and others) can’t criticize him... isn’t that the story? If you criticize someone who’s black, you’re biased, right???
So will that shut them up?
I was going to say that Cain would eat Obambi for breakfast. But in reality, Obambi wouldn’t make a decent snack for a man of Cain’s caliber!
Wouldn’t be interesting, since Obambi defeated McCain in ‘08, to see plain old CAIN-without-the-Mc bulldoze Obambi in 2012? However, my heart is still with Sarah Palin, I must confess.
Which is why I think he has a good shot.
Well that’s one way to spin it. More likely there’s nothing but a mundane truth behind their delay. FEC rules. The longer they wait the more they can develop funding by more creative and flexible means. After they cross the threshold of “testing the waters,” or actually declaring, the legal expenses go up and the complications become more severe. The lower tier must chance those dangerous waters early because they need to improve their name recognition to have any chance at all. And naturally, they will spin the delay of the others in the worst possible light, even if it isn’t true.
I’ve been watching elections now for over thirty years. This is all quite normal. But it is disturbing to see the lengths people will go to to make other people look bad even when they should know better. Kind of discourages one about the prognosis for human nature.
Anyway, the one big difference this time is the purportedly giant war chest of Obama. Each candidate has a marketing plan and it will be costly. Those who hope to match Obama’s funding are already capable fund raisers and already have large infrastructures in place, which are inherently harder to manage under FEC rules than small infrastructures. So it really makes perfect sense that Palin, Huck, Romney, and the other top tier candidates, whose names I cannot recall, would sit this dance out for a while. They’re just being good generals.
As I recall, anyone who criticized Ferraro was sexist. But they had no problem attacking Palin at every turn. The double standard will apply here as well.
I like him but he isn’t well known enough. But he improved his veep chances.
If we’re looking for Black Republicans who are well known enough to win - Colin Powell (too old probably) and Condi Rice.
Not saying they should be supported, but people know who they are, and they’re credible Republican public figures.
The first ALL-black president. Not a half-breed.
Palin was talked about by the media because she was the VP nominee. It was exactly when McCain picked her that she became super famous.
Unless the media wants Cain in there, doing well, they just won’t mention him. They know that they can drive conservatives to someone by attacking them and publicizing the conflict. See Trump.
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