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To: AndrewC
I stated that the your interpreted "requirement" was effective the moment Jesus related it to Nicodemus.(John 3:5).

Firstly, it's Christ's statement that He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Mark 16:16 no human logic -- only if one denies what Christ clearly said that belief and baptism is needed to be saved that is human logic

Secondly, John 3:5 tells of what is needed in the New Covenant. The Old Covenant given to Noah was sealed with a sacrifice.

So too the New Covenant was sealed with the purest sacrifice -- Jesus Christ's death on the cross

FROM THE RESURRECTION the New Covenant begins.

3,731 posted on 06/21/2011 12:29:28 AM PDT by Cronos ( W Szczebrzeszynie chrząszcz brzmi w trzcinie I Szczebrzeszyn z tego słynie.)
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To: Cronos

I am saved despite your objections.


3,732 posted on 06/21/2011 12:38:32 AM PDT by AndrewC
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