Posted on 04/25/2011 7:43:04 PM PDT by publius321
I want to thank you for getting involved with the CB Patriot Project. I am excited about the initial response considering this project was launched just this past week. The fact is that we have members joining us from our home state of Florida all the way across the US as far as California & Oregon.
For those who signed up to participate, we will be reaching out to you from time to time to organize as we fill up more areas with like-minded and like-value patriots. "Test runs" will follow once we have enough members among us. That will entail having those who volunteered to be "Captains" or "Managers" contact you in your local areas to conduct test runs and perhaps meet at local destinations that might be expedient in the event of an "emergency".
We need to get our friends and family involved so that we have more people to mobilize. Consider going to the cbPatriot.com Home Page and clicking the facebook icon at the top, which will upload the cbPatrot site to your Facebook page. We can also e-mail our e-mail contacts. If you are a member or leader in a Tea Party organization, contact them in this regard.
God bless.
Sounds interestimg. Time to dig out my 23 channel unit. I’m also an amateur radio operator too.
Fantastic! Welcome.
Just ordered up a new Galaxy DX-2547 for this reason. If you have a ping list please add me to it. Thanks.
Good for you PA Engineer. Will add you too.
Can 10 meter be used for CB/SSB or does it have to be modified an is that modification legal ?
Sorry Charlie, I don’t “do” Facebook, because the gubmint sure does!
JC
Back in the day (late 70s) you could (illegally) use a 10 meter linear on the 11 meter CB band.
The FCC frowned upon this use, and eventually all 10 meter linears had to be manufactured so that they could not easily be used on the 11 meter band.
My gear is old but reliable... Cobra 2000GTL, peaked, tuned, and expanded... 600 watt RM Italy amp... Solarcon antenna. In the truck is a Ranger 2970DX, peaked, tuned, and expanded as well. Yeah, I can get out there...
Regards,
Raven6
Yes, they will... It is also important to remember that government has the ability and manpower to intercept and interpret every transmission that hits the airwaves. If you don't want them showing up at your called meeting place, it would be wise to learn how to use the only unbreakable code that exists: the "one time pad" code... It is a single use code derived from the use of a book (a copy of which is held by each intended recipient of the message) with the initial lines of the coded message advising which page of the book is the key for that day's code. It is sort of a rolling code, and with an unknown and ever-changing key, it is impossible to break.
Of course the government's ability to triangulate on a transmitter is a problem as well... So the trick is to transmit in very short bursts from an ever-changing location. Simple enough... Coded message recipients have already been advised of meeting locations with each having a simple alpha-numeric identifier such as A76 or B47, etc. The same is done with the date and time. All of this would allow for a transmission of less than 15 seconds...
Of course there are no guarantees... You could be parked right next to a van load of feds with the latest and greatest equipment when you key-up.
All of this is purely for hypothetical discussion, of course.
Regards,
Raven6
I didn’t say it was difficult, just that I don’t do it!
JC
Im coming across conversations assuming a scenario where we would have to use secret codes to communicate etc. I have nothing against secret codes but would like to elucidate on this subject. The project was not- conceived under the assumption that it would become ILLEGAL- for Americans to communicate with one another. I think if they/he “shut down the Internet” it would be something of a CHARADE.
In this situation, the pretense for example might be that there was a “cyber-terror” incident in which the cyber-terrorists supposedly did something that warranted an Internet shut down in order to investigate or they shut it down in order to “protect” the infrastructure or to ostensibly “protect” us... There would still have to be some internal resistance just as we have now from Congress and our state governments who are suing the feds. So were probably looking at underhanded attempts using the FCC and other bureaucracies, even czars - to violate the constitution and our rights all while still somewhat constrained by congress (one would hope). In this case The Saboteur and his accomplices in the Senate would have to stay within the confines of their pretense emergency.
So the agenda would be to stifle most of the communication under those pretenses. I don’t see them coming out and making a LAW- specifically elucidating their leftist agenda of disabling the freedom of Americans like us to gather and protest in the manner we gathered after the last meltdown. By staying within the confines of their disingenuous charade and successfully shutting down communications via Internet and phone availability WITHOUT further legislation, the left could conceivably prevent- another organic uprising the type of which led to the tea parties around the nation almost over-night. Even with all of the existing tea parties and other groups, we are so inter-dependent on e-mail, message boards like here at FR and phones (most of which are cellular) even with these groups having been formed, take away that communicative ability and we are all isolated within the chaos and have no idea when to meet, where to meet, what to bring how to help etc.
I dont see them getting the ability to ban CB usage as there is no valid pretense to justify it. So I dont think it is going to be a situation where we have to speak in code and break any valid laws. I cant speak for all states but I believe my state government of Florida will fight valiantly before that happens; but they wouldnt have nearly as much ability to overcome an Internet and cell network shutdown as we are inter connected with other states etc.
I dont see unmitigated tyranny perhaps until the Chi-coms and the Arabs sack us. That being the case, it is good to have a plan for EVERY scenario. The aforementioned is where codes would DEFINITELY come in handy, in which case we wouldnt be violating any US laws because Trojan Horse Hussein would have succeeded in his obvious long term plan for this country and there would no longer be a US Constitution or US government.
Consider this: Any FCC compliant radio that broadcasts in amplitude modulation mode within the 26.965 through 27.405 Mhz range is limited to 4 watts, and the same radio would be limited to 10 watts if sideband capable. Unless this sample radio is communicating through skip wave propagation (fun, but not dependable at all), its range is going to be severely limited, even if it is operating at peak efficiency (final transistors at 100%, modulation at 100%, and Standing Wave Reflected at 1.1:1 or better.) In order to increase coms ability to the point of actually being reliable, the network will absolutely have to depend on radios that fall outside of FCC type specified "citizens band" radios. It is specifically for that reason that amateur operators go down to the 40 meter band and lower in order to get distant contacts... It is next to impossible to do so on 11 meters (C.B.) via ground wave propagation.
My point to all of this is that there will be no need to try and pass some new law in order to prevent communication by legal C.B. radios... The range just isn't there. The radios themselves do a pretty good job of preventing people from creating much of a network. If it wasn't this way, the old R.E.A.C.T. clubs created in the 1970's would still exist. So what that leaves, if you are determined to use 11 meters, are the radios that are no longer FCC type compliant or the radios that are compliant themselves but are being operated through an illegal amplifier. Once you cross that line, you are in violation of FCC regs... So the operators of such equipment will be hunted down and punished if they are blatantly communicating information the is deemed unsuitable. Hence my bringing up codes and short transmissions.
So... I'll participate in a network if I am welcome to use my equipment. But if the time comes that the network is needed and there is not a code system in place, there could be some regrets... As I tell my students in my disaster preparedness classes: "We don't get to pick the disaster, we just have to plan for the worst case scenario."
For anyone that wants to understand one-time-pad codes and their best usage, do a little research on how the French Underground communicated during WWII, and how their use of cells protected their numbers should a cell get compromised.
Regards,
Raven6
I like you last quote you use to your disaster preparedness classes. I definitely agree that we need to prepare for the worst case scenario. I believe that if the feds started blocking local signals and rounded up free Americans for using our constitutional rights to communicate and assemble, states like mine (FL) would secede before they allowed that and sure as hell civil war would ensue.
I believe the Saboteur in Chief has wanted that from the day he started campaigning for the IL state legislature. Nevertheless, the state inwhich one lives is more important than anytime in the past 150 years.
I’m glad people like you are around and value your input.
One thing to remember, even though CB’s range is limited, a good antenna will go a long way to help you get your signal out much better. A crappy or cheap radio with a good antenna would do much better than the best radio with a crappy antenna. As a ham radio operator, I could come up with many types of antenna if need be.
Just caught your latest post on the CB Patriots project. From this I presume that you are intimately involved in the project. I looked at the site and the premise is very good but I am first and foremost a ham although I have no hesitation to operate CB although my main non-ham band is FRS.
If you are looking to enlist hams as a way to augment capabilities, I am interested. I have looked at several groups of this nature but there seems to be more talk than action.
Let me know.
Regards,
Raven6
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