Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)

WHDH-TV / CNN ^ | April 11, 2011

[2ndDivisionVet]

BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.

Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....

[LucyT]

Aside from the issue of the Colb, there are a number of examples. The letter from the U of HI - the author ASSUMES that the student who enrolled in Fall 1960, is the same person as Stanley Ann Dunham.

There has been no transcript. The U of WA transcripts were apparently supplied, with a covering note, AS A SCAN SENT BY E-MAIL. (Or a FAX)

There is no provenance.

A later communication corrects a 'misunderstanding' about the date of commencement. The original report had the date as August 19, 1961. The explanation was that this was transcribed incorrectly and should have been SEPTEMBER 19. How-ever, the semester commenced September 25, according to the U of WA calendar from 1961. Small difference? Why can't they get ANYTHING right?

The U of WA transcripts include Mercer Island High School graduation in 1960. Funny that.

Aside from some very suspicious images in which Stanley Ann Dunham appears to have been inserted, there's nothing. - NOT A SINGLE YEAR BOOK.

None of her 'classmates' can find their yearbooks, and when asked, someone at Mercer Island High School said -

We had SIX yearbooks until recently, BUT THEY WERE STOLEN.

. . . . "SIX yearbooks until recently, BUT THEY WERE STOLEN." - !

[Fred Nerks]

.... . . . "SIX yearbooks until recently, BUT THEY WERE STOLEN." - !

YEP. Our team of researcher-sleuths never leave a stone unturned, and that's what we were told.

[bgill]

Stolen year books is just the latest in the long, long list of coinky-dink cover ups with zero.

[little jeremiah]

Very interesting. STOLEN!

They have a large number of people trying to provide cover.

[LucyT]

We had SIX yearbooks until recently, BUT THEY WERE STOLEN.

Oh, boy! How to explain their conveniently stolen yearbooks?....

[Seizethecarp]

There is no provenance for any claims that Stanley Ann Dunham Obama was NOT at Mercer HS, at U. of HI or at U. of WA. There is no provenance or any evidence of a conspiracy to produce false records for SADO at those three public institutions.

There is no provenance for documents of any kind or eyewitness on any claimed record for any “Anna Obama” who was supposedly NOT Stanley Ann Dunham Obama and who was supposedly married to BHO SR or who attended any of these institutions instead of SADO or that this other Anna was ever in Seattle with or without a baby in January of 1961.

It is totally a conspiracy theory to fabricate an imaginary alternate “Anna Obama” out of whole cloth and claiming her to be the "real" Anna Obama and claim that all public documents relating to Stanley Ann in three public institutions are fake.

All of the public records for Stanley Ann can be verified to be (or not to be) at these institutions in the custody of the registrars or other custodians.

The claimed provenance for documents that certain named officials sent out as verification of attendance or as a transcript on letterhead and under a signature can be verified in court by the custodians of the public records who can be called to testify.

This is a perfect falsifiable interlocking chain of claims of provenance for evidence for Stanley Ann at the three institutions which doesn't exist for the alternate Anna Obama at all to date from what I have seen.

So I leave it for you and all FReepers reading this to decide who is creating deliberate distraction, thread hijacking and conspiracy theories out of thin air.

Remember, only when evidence is actually presented in a court can any alleged provenance of any kind be proved.

[LucyT]

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Ah, ha.

More crickets.

[little jeremiah]

Remember, only when evidence is actually presented in a court can any alleged provenance of any kind be proved.

This last sentence was useful. Most other sentences were the opposite; in fact, the tossing around of the word "conspiracy" smacks of Alinsky tactics and you should explain why you are using that word.

[Natural Born 54]

Without getting into one details of proof or lack of proof, let me say that just on general principles, you should view the school year era of SAD with suspicion. Why should this part of the Obama family saga be accepted as credible when virtually every other aspect of the story has been shown to be very questionable?

If you start with the assumption that much of O’s family bio is BS, then you have to question SAD’s school years as well. And if you do approach it as probably bogus, the next step is to try to find the weaknesses in the story and figure out what might actually be the facts.

So, instead of criticizing the theory of others because “there’s no reason to question that” because we have a transcript or we have whatever, how about actually refuting a theory with which you don’t agree by using something other than Obot supplied information?

How about your brain? You have a pretty darn good one. How about using it instead of serving up provenance supplied by people we know are lying scoundrels?

[Fred Nerks]

Remember, only when evidence is actually presented in a court can any alleged provenance of any kind be proved.

SHOCKING!

[mojitojoe]

Hey, what’s going on with you lately? Did someone highjack your screen name?

[Seizethecarp]

“Without getting into one details of proof or lack of proof, let me say that just on general principles, you should view the school year era of SAD with suspicion. Why should this part of the Obama family saga be accepted as credible when virtually every other aspect of the story has been shown to be very questionable?”

That is not true. I have categorically rejected the Obama family sage relating to the year beginning August 1961!

Remember that SADO’s year in WA with baby Barry invalidates the “Dreams” narrative of the newly married couple and destroys the Obama family myth, Barry's credibility and that of Abercrombie as well.

When evaluating this investigation, I have always advocated that each piece of claimed evidence must be examined on its own merits and either accepted or rejected on that basis. Documents that can be subsequently validated as to provenance have the highest credibility.

[Fred Nerks]

THE SOEBARKAH SAGA

Remember how it started? Stanley Ann Dunham's passport data revealed that BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA was removed from her passport, and the name SOEBARKAH was crossed out.

And there we were, all this time, thinking his name might have been BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA SOETORO.

STRUNK FOIA RESULTS PASSPORT LINK

Compare her handwriting with any of the other passport documents, and it's quite evidently her handwriting.

The above image discovered on the WTPOTUS website quite some time ago, always intruiged me. I have posted that before, with the question 'who are these people'?

Recently, we decided to check out SOEBARKA. Where might that name have come from?

Are the five males in the group image with 'Barry' the SAME FIVE MALES shown above in the group years later, with their own families, wives and children? The images originate from an Indonesian website FOR THE SOEBARKAH FAMILY.

Now note the couple in the centre...

They are the same couple as in the family group with five males - looks like an Indonesian wedding image...

Now here is LOLO:

It sure makes one wonder...doesn't it?

[Natural Born 54]

“That is not true. I have categorically rejected the Obama family sage relating to the year beginning August 1961!”

Good.

The problem with your approach, though, is that it is too limiting. I think evaluating each document or each photo or each quote, etc. is necessary but if you do nothing but that, if you stop there you are going to limit your chance of finding the truth. I don’t think it is a bad idea to come up with a theory, float it and see how it would account for the discrepancies in the official tale.

Hey, I still have one theory on my list about Ann that will really get me a hammering from you:

Stanley A. Dunham is grandpa’s name and SAD’s name, right? Well, what if Stanley A. Dunham wasn’t the SAD we know her to be and was really Stanley Armour Dunahm Jr. and grandpa actually did get the son always wanted? The son could have died prior to Zero running for office and his handlers retro-fit SAD into the name when they were looking for a mother for the story. Why would I think that one up? I found it hard to believe that any mother would allow her daughter to be named “Stanley”.

[Fred Nerks]

I imagine a lot depends upon if this image and signature are to be believed.

Susan Blake, in the video that was cut down to a few seconds, originally said 'she always introduced herself as Stanley' - but THAT was long before ANNA OBAMA was found, and they tried to turn her into ANNA.

[Fred Nerks]

thanks for that link, I read the article, sorry to be so long getting back to you. All things considered, it’s beginning to look like she was nothing but THE NANNY.

[Seizethecarp]

It's still me down here near Sanibel. Same old retired CPA and CFE (Certified Fraud Examiner).

I'm still instinctively bound by my audit and forensic training to examine each piece of evidence very carefully and to avoid overstating or understating its potential importance. This training (when I am able to set aside my emotions and bias) has always helped my avoid premature acceptance of evidence or premature rejection of evidence.

You will recall that I was zotted for insisting that a particular piece of evidence was being prematurely rejected. I never said that evidence was authentic and should be accepted but only that I was not convinced that it should be rejected, yet.

Auditors are used to operating in a “trust but verify” environment where a key part of your job is to prevent the same people that are paying you from ripping other people off either intentionally or accidentally. Embarrassing confrontations go with the territory. Feelings of folks who thought you were their friend and “on their side” can get hurt (sometimes deservedly so, sometimes that is just where the facts lead).

I engage in a lot of wild, unsubstantiated speculation, but I say that that is what it is. But I Avoid going anyplace where a credible, potentially verifiable document trail is already blocking the way. (I look at SADO’s Mercer, HI and WA college records that way.) I try to thread my way between the narrative points where there is more solid documents and evidence and try to minimize resort to conspiracy theories.

SADO's U. of WA record destroys Obama’s narrative in Dreams and his foundational 2004 Democrat Convention speech. The U. of WA narrative opens the question “Where was SADO before she is documented to be in WA in Sep, 1961?” If she crosses as much of the Pacific from Hawaii to WA with a newborn she could have easily crossed other oceans leading back to Kenya.

So coming back to the thread topic, Obama’s angry Aunt Zeituni and family could actually have received a letter in the Northwest tribal area from BHO Sr. sent from Hawaii. But the letter could have announced Barry's birth...which happened to be in Mombasa...if SADO was hidden away with missionaries there during her scandalous pregnancy.

The only conspiracy needed for SADO to be with missionaries is a conspiracy to hide a pregnant daughter or mistress, something which happened all over the country at that time.

Who had the means, motive and opportunity to send SADO to Kenya? The KGB with Soviet money or FM Davis and his rich wife with the cooperation of cash-strapped likely Communist Party member, BHO Sr.

[LucyT]

You keep mentioning your qualifications; why don't you research zer0's qualifications and present the evidence to all of us instead of you always criticizing everyone else.

Let us see the documents you have in your possession.

[Seizethecarp]

“I found it hard to believe that any mother would allow her daughter to be named ‘Stanley’.”

This was really sick to be sure.

I note that Stanley Armour's mom committed suicide and he got in trouble for punching out someone early in life. This makes me think of familial bipolar mania, often with delusions, which is often co-morbid with narcissism and even borderline personality disorder (talk about bad luck in the genes! Unfortunately I have a lot of experience in my extended family with these highly inheritable conditions.

A person with these co-morbid psychiatric disorders could easily name a daughter “Stanley” and also turn a daughter and a grandson over to be mentored by a pedophile, not that I know this happened, of course.

[LucyT]

You will recall that I was zotted

You are close to being zotted from the ping list.