Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)

WHDH-TV / CNN ^ | April 11, 2011

[2ndDivisionVet]

BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.

Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....

[little jeremiah]

For some reason I’m pretty good guessing childrens’ ages (years of babysitting?). The Waikiki and trike photos look no older than 4 to me, I supposed if he was a slow grower might be 5, but the trike photo almost looks a little younger than the beach photo. I would vote against 6 for sure. Six year olds are usually starting to get a bit gangly.

[bgill]

Alternatively, if Barry's father's marriage to Stanley Ann was bigamous, Barry would not have received UK citizenship under the 1948 BNA and thus would not have transitioned to dual UK/Kenyan citizenship in 1964 when Kenya became independent and thus would not actually have had any Kenyan citizenship to renounce.

Except Auma admits there's no legal records of her marriage to Senior so all Ann had to do was bring along the divorce records with little Barry named and viola! there's the legal marriage and Kenyan citizenship. Then they drag along Professor Alice Dewey of UofH so who's going to question a professor where Senior attended. Interesting timing - after Senior died but before the citizenship timeframe expired.

[bgill]

That would make Barry 6 does the child in that phot look 6 ???

No way. He's 3 in that picture. Maybe a young 4. He looks a bit younger in the beach pic than in the tricycle pic.

[Fred Nerks]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2278969/posts?page=469#469

When you posted the above comment on OBAMA THE AFRICAN COLONIAL thread, I thought, fair enough. Your questions were valid. I replied:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2278969/posts?page=473#473

You may or may not have noticed that the bulk of the material posted to that thread by myself and others, is primarily SOURCED BACKGROUND MATERIAL - and deliberately light on personal opinion.

Over a long period of time, you have accused me of creating a fantasy scenario, and thrown back at me, obviously in an attempt to discredit, the very same SOURCED BACKGROUND MATERIAL posted on Obama The African Colonial.

What does that indicate but a very real flaw in your character?

I have no wish to communicate further with you. Ever.

[GGMac]

Somewhere a while back I saw these two photos. The little boys were identified as the sons of BHO, Sr and his 3rd wife, Ruth ...[ah..Nj??andjro?...can’t remember her name]. She’s the one he hooked up with while at Harvard, who then followed him to Kenya. Mark was their first son; the younger son was named David. David was later killed in a motorcycle accident. The snapshot was id’d as a family snapshot. She later divorced him, married someone else, and the son Mark took that stepfather’s name. This is the son who now lives in China; has written a book about life and misery as Senior’s child.

[Brown Deer]

[Seizethecarp]

“Funny that...the Goeldners knew Stanley Ann was still alive...so the dead mother certainly wasn’t SAD!”

This claim of yours is based on a hearsay story based on decades old memory. You have excluded the obvious possibility that Madelyn may have wanted to hid from relatives the fact that her daughter had a mixed-race child.

Goeldners shows up in HI for vacation from back home. Maybe Madelyn wasn't that close to Goeldner and wasn't willing, as a “typical white woman” to admit to her daughter's indiscretion, a daughter who was conveniently out the the country a lot.

You have not shared any corroborated evidence that any other person than Stanley Ann was the mother of BHO II.

This memory of Virginia Goeldner has zero evidentiary value from an investigative standpoint and would not be admissible in any court.

[Nepeta]

If someone was using expensive color film and flash during the daytime, wouldn’t they have centered the subject better, not cutting off the wheels of the trike? If it was cut/pasted/photoshopped, maybe it was hard getting the wheels to look as though they were on the pavement, so they cut the bottom of all but one off.

One thing you would NOT do is take an action shot in fading light. If the kid was sitting still, then the photographer could have done a better job of composing the shot.

The lighting looks softer than flash pictures typically are--there is no hard shadow--which makes it look like a flash, if used, was bounced from a reflective surface to soften the look.

Or someone was playing with pixels, cutting and pasting.

[Tennessee Nana]

You have excluded the obvious possibility that Madelyn may have wanted to hid from relatives the fact that her daughter had a mixed-race child.
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Well its odd that Madelyn hade no qualms of letting everyone in the islands know that fact...

She put it into TWO big Hawaii newspapers...

also that her daughter had a black husband...

funny actions for a woman you seem to be claiming was a bigot...

[LucyT]

What they do NOT want anyone to look at is parentage.

And that's WHY the KENYA KENYA KENYA stories are allowed to float and all the articles that refer to him as KENYA BORN have not been scrubbed. As long as the KENYA myth lives, Barak Hussein 0bama ONYANGO remains in people's minds AS THE FATHER!

. . . . Then who is his father? Who is his mother?

Who were his parents?

Were his parents ~so important~ [and backed by unlimited funds$] that they could not admit having an out-of-wedlock relationship that produced a child, and therefore pawned 0zer0 off on another family?

Is this what FReeper David meant when he said 0zer0 is a substituted child?

[Africa is thousands of miles away, who would ever discover the deception? ... oops, those darn FReepers.]

.

[machogirl]

He looks more manly riding his trike than his bike.

[Fred Nerks]

...[Africa is thousands of miles away, who would ever discover the deception? ... oops, those darn FReepers.]

You can thank MARK. He supplied the images above - the family group shows a dark child about four years of age and Ruth is holding MARK.

The dark child appears to be about 7 months older than the other. If you trust your eyes and not the misleading captions, who they are becomes clear.

[Nepeta]

He looks more manly riding his trike than his bike.

I am more manly than that, and I am a feminine woman. This guy is embarrassing.

[Seizethecarp]

“Except Auma admits there's no legal records of her marriage to Senior so all Ann had to do was bring along the divorce records with little Barry named and viola! there's the legal marriage and Kenyan citizenship.”

First, Auma, on the corroborated record, is Barry's half-sister and is the child that Kezia was pregnant with when BHO Sr. in corroborated to have left Kenya in 1959.

The conversation you refer to involving Auma and the estate of BHO Sr. is ONLY sourced to dialog in Dreams which was most likely invented by Ayers and/or Obama (Ayers is quoted as saying he “wrote the whole thing,” IIRC).

Anything in Dreams, IMO, cannot be used as a primary source and is highly unreliable and this “memory” is uncorroborated by any open access Kenyan government or tribal marriage records or access to any family witnesses, IIRC.

[bushpilot1]

http://www.truthout.org/obamas-young-mother-abroad/1303494379

[LucyT]

Ping

The dark child appears to be about 7 (Seven) months older than the other. If you trust your eyes and not the misleading captions, who they are becomes clear.

[machogirl]

lol

[Fred Nerks]

...To see what happens when someone born in Hawaii requests a birth certificate, CNN asked a current resident of the state -- Stig Waidelich -- if he could get a copy of the document.

Waidelich was born hours after Obama in August 1961. Like Obama, Waidelich's birth was announced at the time in the Honolulu Star-Bulletin newspaper. Waidelich, like Obama in 2008, was given a certification of live birth in response to his request.

SOURCE LINK

Wouldn't it be useful to see Weidelich's certificate number, see how it fits into the above sequence?

[Seizethecarp]

“Over a long period of time, you have accused me of creating a fantasy scenario, and thrown back at me, obviously in an attempt to discredit, the very same SOURCED BACKGROUND MATERIAL posted on Obama The African Colonial.”

Fred Nerks has NEVER posted in “The African Colonial” or any other thread I have seen any corroboration for any of his repeated postings of dialog from Dreams written by either Ayers or Obama (most likely Ayers).

[bushpilot1]

“Saman said that when Barry failed to finish homework sent from Hawaii by his grandmother, Ann “would call him into his room and would spank him with his father’s military belt.” President Obama, through a spokeswoman, said his mother never resorted to physical discipline.”

http://www.truthout.org/obamas-young-mother-abroad/1303494379