Obama's aunt angry at Trump (Now she claims family got letter from BHO Sr. in Hawaii)

WHDH-TV / CNN ^ | April 11, 2011

[2ndDivisionVet]

BOSTON - Barack Obama's aunt, Zeituni Onyango, says Donald Trump disrespected her family by questioning the president's birthplace.

Trump quoted Obama's grandmother when she claimed to have witnessed Barack Obama's birth in Kenya, and Onyango says that is not true.....

[Nepeta]

From the 1st edition:

"Although much of this book is based upon contemporaneous journals or the oral histories of my family, the dialogue is necessarily an approximation of what was actually said or relayed to me. For the sake of compression, some of the characters that appear are composites of people I've known, and some events appear out of precise chronology. With the exception of my family and a handful of public figures, the names of most characters have been changed for the sake of their privacy."



A character is a fictional creation. Real people are not characters; to speak of composites in a work of non-fiction, one should properly say that some persons are composites.

Once you read this disclaimer, which I just did online in the googlebooks version, the possibility is obvious that much or most or maybe nearly all of what we have been told about Our Messiah is a fluffy lie.

[azishot]

And to add insult to injury they had to photoshop pictures to go along with the fairy tale of “Dreams”. How to untangle such a web of lies that he claims is his life to make sense to someone who hasn’t followed this since 2007?

How do you condense the research into bullet points that follow a timeline without watching their eyes glaze over? I *get it* (ALL of it) now (I hope) but I think this is why we hear, “Let’s attack him on the issues” because it scares them that someone WILL find a way to present this information to the masses in a comprehensible way. Just think of HOW MANY contribued to and knew about this POS’s ineligibility!

I had someone tell me that you can’t “unring a bell”...that B0 is POTUS so it’s over. I told them that we’re STILL discovering so many inconsistencies that SHOULD’VE been brought out 3 years ago and for me the sequence of events is backwards. B0 was *shoved* into the presidency and he needs to be dragged out by uncovering the truth that should’ve been brought up THREE YEARS AGO!!!!

[Seizethecarp]

“Obama, himself, “kills the Dreams narrative,” when he places an introduction/forward in the second edition of the book that ADMITS that the entire story is nothing more than a fable. FICTIONALIZED “history”. He says they are composite characters. He says the timeline is wrong. He says the conversations are invented (or recreated).”

I agree that the Dreams disclaimer totally undermines the reliability of Dreams. This is why the Dreams narrative, dialog and event framing cannot be considered as a source for primary, as opposed to secondary research.

But the Dreams disclaimer, IMO, doesn't kill specific parts of the Dreams narrative because the disclaimer doesn't tell you which parts are reality based and which are not. It is not ALL fiction.

Obama was marketed as a branded product to the voters, like all presidential candidates, and the Dreams narrative was a key marketing “differentiator” for the Obama product, distinguishing him as exotic in an admirable, inclusive, world citizen way from other mostly boring white males.

The American public was introduced to the Dreams narrative at the 2004 Convention where the meeting of his parents was transformed from the sordid facts.
Obama’s parents are portrayed as a loving couple who have common, noble American inspired hopes and dreams for their son.

The a married foreign exchange student jumps a freshman girl then dishonestly marries her bigmaously, then they spent at most weeks together as a couple sharing American hopes and dreams because SADO was in Seattle from soon after the birth until BHO Sr. left Hawaii.

IMO, the discovery and corroboration of the SADO in Seattle narrative as well as the Kezia with two children back in Kenya narrative together with the dishonest bigamous non-Muslim marriage narrative all DESTROY Obama’s first impression Dreams narrative introduction to the voters:

http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/convention2004/barackobama2004dnc.htm

“But my grandfather had larger dreams for his son. Through hard work and perseverance my father got a scholarship to study in a magical place, America, that shone as a beacon of freedom and opportunity to so many who had come before.

“While studying here, my father met my mother. She was born in a town on the other side of the world, in Kansas. Her father worked on oil rigs and farms through most of the Depression. The day after Pearl Harbor my grandfather signed up for duty; joined Patton’s army, marched across Europe. Back home, my grandmother raised a baby and went to work on a bomber assembly line. After the war, they studied on the G.I. Bill, bought a house through F.H.A., and later moved west all the way to Hawaii in search of opportunity.

“And they, too, had big dreams for their daughter. A common dream, born of two continents.

“My parents shared not only an improbable love, they shared an abiding faith in the possibilities of this nation. They would give me an African name, Barack, or ”blessed,” believing that in a tolerant America your name is no barrier to success. They imagined — They imagined me going to the best schools in the land, even though they weren’t rich, because in a generous America you don’t have to be rich to achieve your potential.”

“They're both passed away now. And yet, I know that on this night they look down on me with great pride.”

[Greenperson]

Thanks for your photo analysis. I’m not good with that and I don’t know how to paste photos, so I appreciate it. At comment 1159, I pointed out her two thumbs. At 1219, I said, “That pirate costume photo: Look closely at his left hand, the one holding the sword. What’s wrong with his thumb? Look at SADO’s hairline. Why so raggedy? What is that dark furry smudge below the hair, top 1/3 of the forehead? Her hair, the “flip”, looks fake. Like a wig or a “fall” added in. The color and texture don’t match. Why the drawn-on eyebrows? There’s a notch taken out of her right thumb.”

Can you look at her head/hairline/hair? Her left hand looks like it’s floating over his body. Does he really have a pierced ear?

[little jeremiah]

I agree with you 100%. I think his parentage is a lie, his birth place is a lie, his citizenship status is a lie, his mythical life story is largely a lie; and the fact that the media plus so many “conservative” talk/pundit/commentators PLUS freaking GOP elected officials either are dead silent, pile scorn on “birthers” or say crap like “I take him at his word” shows that so many are guilty - commission or omission - that a huge housecleaning MUST be done or we are toast as a Republic. Brewer has turned into a quisling now.

Repubs who said nothing (the vast majority of them) are complicit by either doing nothing or submitting or helping along by pretending to believe the lies.

Right now the only people I have a drop of respect for are those verbally questioning Zeros’ lies. Everyone else is useless at best, and a quisling at worst. And I mean among Repubs.

[Greenperson]

The addition of this disclaimer in the second edition’s introduction was explained away as the publisher being careful after the recent outing of author James Frey, except their timeframe was off, if you look at the dates of publication. But they will put out anything that sounds remotely plausible, so people won’t take a second look and ask questions. The devil IS in the details.

The first edition of “his” fake biography sold (if it did SELL) in the low thousands, but this second edition was expected to sell better, because of his wonderful 2004 speech. They knew, then, that people would start double checking and vetting, so to stymie that, they added this disclaimer, pretending all was changed simply to protect privacy of the players. Obama was quoted as admitting that it’s reconstructed memory and said to take it “for what it’s worth.” It’s worth even less than people ever imagined.

[Greenperson]

It is said that the composite character disclaimer was added later, for the second edition. I can’t find the original edition online, anywhere. I can’t even find the entire preface/introduction for the second edition online. As for the original edition, I’d love to know how he referred to his mother in that edition. Most of the time, he calls her “my mother.” In one news article from the 1990s, the writer called her “Ann”. Remember that early on, she was called Shirley, and not Stanley.

It’s said that the book was hardly changed for the second edition, but that cannot be true because of the number of pages. He rewrote the preface and introduction.

First editions cost in the thousands of dollars and they are about as easy to locate as a 1960 Mercer Island High yearbook.

[Eva]

A certificate of live birth is not proof of anything, except that his mother reported a birth. There are just too many contradictions in Obama’s life history that beg explanation, like the numerous phony SS# that he has used and the fact that Obama’s name was NEVER Barack Obama until he started school at Columbia College and decided to take the Muslim name. Did he change his name officially?

We know that his name was Barry Soetoro and that he was adopted by his step father, which would have probably resulted in a new birth certificate. We also know that his mother could not have been legally married to Barrack Obama because he was already married to a woman in Kenya. In Hawaii, an unmarried mother’s name was listed on the child’s birth certificate, not the father’s name, by law.

I’m not really questioning where Obama was born, but rather what he is hiding. Inquiring minds want to know what it is that Obama does not want us to know. Why all the subterfuge?

[NCC-1701]

“...Just who the hell do these people think they are?...”

God.

[little jeremiah]

If you don’t question where Zero was born, you need to dig deeper. THere is nothing about him that has been proven. No document of his has ever been shown in a court of law with those producing it under oath.

All anyone has seen is something purported to be from the State of HI on a couple of partisan websites.

[little jeremiah]

Also, we do not know whether Stanley Ann and the Kenyan Obama were ever married, nor it is sure and certain that Kezia and Obama were ever married. If you’d read the last dozen or so pages of this thread you would know that.

There is precious little that is known for sure about his life, parentage, country of birth, or past history.

The more people accept as given stuff that is not proved, the more the lies persist. If you had read Fred Nerk’s comments about the various statements from Kezia and the odd timeline of when the Kenyan Obama first came to the US (very cloudy), it is definitely not proven that Obama and Kezia were married, or when (if).

Until documents are found and people testifying under oath, or other methods where truth can be verified, much of what people are accepting as fact is mere supposition.

[bgill]

You sure about that being Hawaii? Look at the building in the background. It looks more ME/Africa to me. There seems to be some design on the window if that could be seen clearly. Someone who has the proper software might be able to pull out the name on the building - see there by his left foot. Can the colors of the two flags be brought out? I've done a quick search of historical buildings in Mombasa and Honolulu but didn't see anything close but that building could be anywhere.

[Seizethecarp]

“You sure about that being Hawaii?”

I believe that bow of the the red and white boat visible under the Tiki hut is a traditional Hawaiian outrigger.

The outfit he is wearing looks like the same one he was wearing, perhaps on the same day, which was also at the beach, IIRC.

[Seizethecarp]

Well maybe just a lifeguard station...not a Tiki hut...

[bgill]

I have high school years books from back around 1915. Yes, they made them way back then.

[Tennessee Nana]

Obama’s seemingly effortless ability to formulate and organize complex ideas.
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And Mommy who had a doctorate did his homework ???

No wonder he seemed smart beyond his years

I winder if he kept that up later in college

Found someone at Columbia who would write his papers for money etc

(Maybe a woman)

Maybe thats how he got into Harvard

His “seemingly effortless ability to formulate and organize complex ideas”

Wonder who the ghost writer was..

[bgill]

I was only sixteen then...I'd just been accepted to the University of Chicago...'

“Black Orpheus” opened 12/1959...as far as I know... Her birthdate is in NOVEMBER 1942"

Making her 17, not 16. And she wouldn't have been accepted at UC prior to high school graduation the following year. One would think that the myth-makers would be more careful with dates and events.

[Greenperson]

Obama’s name was NEVER Barack Obama until he started school at Columbia College and decided to take the Muslim name.
******

This is probably why you see photos of him labeled “Barry” with no last name. The kindergarten photo, that allegedly is captioned as Barry Obama (or Barack), isn’t shown WITH the caption. It’s just reported to be captioned on the back.

Has anyone seen an actual Punahou yearbook WITH photos of Barry labeled Obama? I’m not talking about that one cropped photo of Barry playing “hoops” with the white caption “Barack Obama” which could EASILY be photoshopped in or over whatever the caption, if any, said.

Scott and Barry 1969. No last name. (Not to mention two different colors of ink, two different captioners.)

[bgill]

I remember visiting the World’s Fair, and then stopping by Stanley Ann’s apartment on Capitol Hill. It was a small apartment, upstairs. It was after June, and could have been as late as September, 1962. I visited her for half a day or so. It was after the end of the spring quarter classes, and she wasn’t in classes, and didn’t have a job.

I thought she lived on the ground floor. If she didn't have a job, who was paying her bills?

[LorenC]

Has anyone seen an actual Punahou yearbook WITH photos of Barry labeled Obama?

Yes.