Posted on 04/11/2011 7:51:03 AM PDT by Davy Buck
"The fact that it is acceptable to put a Confederate flag on a car *bumper and to portray Confederates as brave and gallant defenders of states rights rather than as traitors and defenders of slavery is a testament to 150 years of history written by the losers." - Ohio State Professer Steven Conn in a recent piece at History News Network (No, I'll not difnigy his bitterness by providing a link)
This sounds like sour grapes to me. Were it not for the "losers" . . .
(Excerpt) Read more at oldvirginiablog.blogspot.com ...
The guy is an idiot. The Civil War was most certainly fought over slavery. Call it states rights if you want but it was over THAT state right, not any other.
The slaves knew it. Lincoln knew it. Anyone with an IQ over 50 knows it.
> If you ask me, the bitterness comes from the South having
> to endure a constant barrage of abuse
Spot on. I agree with this 100%.
and I've buried my share of Yankee kin respectfully
but those who wish to denigrate my ancestors and apply out of context politically correct judgment on them to puff about how swell they are about black people when in reality they either are actually completely unfamiliar with the black race
or never mention how the North never wanted the blacks and treated them as second class citizens
can simply kiss my ass
and that goes double for those here
without white conservatives in Dixie this nation woulda died decades ago under a troika of black, latino and Wisconsin Union style whites and their socialist pecadillos
and those here who view America under the steady crucible of race..including some very prominent freepers...while I respect you mean well...need to have an epiphany
what America has been far outstrips handwringing over how blacks, Indians, women or Orientals and Mexicans have been treated
it is pure self flagellating nonsense to focus on that...by design used by those who hate us anyhow to destroy us..this absurd fixation
even at our worst we treated blacks better than they treated themselves in Africa and slaves lived longer here and the concept of freedom as we value today was unheard of in the Dark Continent...that is called "context" kids
and don't get me started on man flesh eating human skinning slave owning Native Americans...of whom I and my wife have their blood flowing thru our veins...they were soooooo "perfect" till the evil crackers got here...
or how we discriminated against Mexicans...I mean look how kind they are to one another down there..we are so bad in comparison here aren't we?
Ugliest war we’ve ever fought.
You mean southern Michigan, right?
The Civil War lasted five years 150 years ago. It continues unabated on FR. The outcome remains the same.
Why wasn’t Bobby Lee and Jeff Davis tried for treason? Because that would put the legality of secession on trial, and the US would have lost that trial making the entire war illegal.
Fixed it.
Me too, in my case North Carolina going all the way back to the Revolution.
So true!
When I grew up they simply did not do that.
Reagan and Buckley and Goldwater had more in common with and voted like Dixiecrats than they did liberal to moderate GOP.
and none of them touted all that PC Civil Rights stuff like Beck and hannity do now.
nope...this steady onslaught as exemplified by a handful here is a new thing
not sure why...just a symptom of the insidousness of political correctness that it's infected folks who call themselves social conservatives ...I think it makes some folks feel morally superior about race issues..something some northerners need to feel..some lib southerners do it too..a few
before all this most decent Yankees this side of Charles Schumer..er Sumner were willing to let the South view their distinctness as they wished
now it's a target for them same as it is for Sharpton or Jesse
if that's who freepers wish to lie with so be it
Southerness is just not something California as a rule understands here and they have let some liberal south bashers run here a long time on long leashes
that homo purge got a few ...hopefully..JR can think up another trap to bag a few more
it's funny that many northerners who harp on this don't even have ancestry here that far back..
my future son in law from Cornwall NY is all Dixie though...he came here to follow my daughter and get away from the rot of the north...he said it's sickening how weak people have become there ..at least in NYC area...and nauseatingly PC and ashamed and he loves Franklin TN
In Mississippi 90% of whites call themselves conservative and 88% vote GOP..nowhere else like that...something finger pointing ..slavery obsessed Yankees cannot have..shame
as we say down here...get yer own house in order...thanks
for the record..color me ambivalent on Lincoln...but his terms were better than the Radicals...the liberal Dems of the day
Nothing like yankee propaganda. It’s every bit as good as the Communist propaganda that it is.
the outcome is still being determined and given that so many Yankees have come down here to be with us
and not just jobs but more often culture
provides an answer you might oughta examine
I mean I count at least a dozen white Detroit expats as my friends here in metro Nashville
and they are stalwarts...flags, gun rack, skoal...the whole enchilada
they are more than welcome here
the Kali folks...and New Englanders...not the same
White Midwesterners are more like us...no question
“Nevertheless, they were fighting to defend a system under which one man could own another man, do what he pleased with him, and own that man’s descendants in perpetuity.”
Yeah, right. Public school indoctrinated, I see.
The North had slavery just the same and even defended it by amending several of their state constitutions to strengthen it not long before the war. In fact, Lincoln himself had written and argued that free slaves should not be welcomed into the State of Illinois. In case you didnt know, Lincolns Emancipation Proclamation didnt free a single Northern slave or southern one, just the ones the Union army captured. Thats right; they even used them as slaves for the Union army even after that so-called proclamation.
So much for the South being the defenders of slavery and the North being something else.
I think there was a more practical reason, I think he was running out of Irish conscripts and needed more bodies to put between D.C. and the Army of NoVa.
Quote please?
It's certainly possible to recognize the real flaws on the Northern side while not excusing the worse flaws of the South.
“Quote please?”
Not my job to educate you. Try reading about lincoln instead of simply repeating what you think you know about the period during the war. I’m not going to drag you around doing your research and educating you on the lincoln and the war. I don’t have time for every ignorant idiot that demands someone else teach them something. Your fingers aren’t broken. Go google for it. Stupid and lazy is no way to go through life.
Didn’t they say, “If this be treason, let us make the most of it?” Did any of them think they were still “loyal Englishmen” after affixing their names to the document in 1776? If so, why did they expect as Franklin said, to “hang separately” if they didn’t hang together. They all knew they were traitors at the end of the day.
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