Posted on 04/11/2011 7:44:11 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
I have a feeling Hillary’s camp is loving all this- especially after Trump finds something embarassing on Obama (maybe not even NBC related) and jumps over to her. (My prediction). Take out opponents on both sides.
I believe that IF the Long Form exists, it will not see the light of day until after Trump is nominated, meaning at least four more years of Obama
THIS! It’s one of the reason’s Sarah stay’s away from it.
Perhaps, but that's not what the birth certificate issue is really all about.
I think most self-described birthers concede that Obama is probably an American citizen.
What we DO NOT concede, is that he is a Natural Born Citizen of this country. At best, he is Native Born, because his mother was an American citizen (we think).
Without the long form birth certificate, all are in mystery, and no one knows for sure who he really is, or what his real origins are.
To date, Mr. Obama has provided exactly NO verifiable documentation of any kind, as to his identity.
I had read that when he enrolled in Occidental college, he did so as a "foreign citizen" though those records have yet to be exposed.
My only comment is that if his mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth, no matter where she or his father resided, he is still a citizen (John McCain born to U.S. parents in the country of Panama.)
If the GOP were to nominate Trump, then that might be the triggering event the propels a third party into prominence and destroys the GOP (sort of like the way the Whig party was replaced by the GOP right before the Civil War). So if it came down to Trump vs Obama vs Conservative/Constitutional 3rd party candidate:
1. No, I would not stay home - I would vote.
2. No I will not vote for the multiple bankruptcy, multiple divorce, reality show bozo Don Trump. I will instead vote for the conservative 3rd party candidate.
3. Our country survived a second bill clinton term, mainly because he was hamstrung by a GOP majority in both houses for 6 of his 8 years.
Corrected on my #5. The source should be: (http://www.ontheissues.org/donald_trump.htm), not
(http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13558.html)
I’ll be voting with the Constitution Party if Trump is the GOP nominee. I’m not casting a vote for him.
Obama NEVER was president.
My point to them is that I believe he was probably not born in Hawaii as his mom was residing in Seattle but days after his birth and I believe that "mommy dearest" had no clue as to the father but at some point later claimed the father to be BHO, Sr. as he was no longer in America. She did so and BHO, Sr. had other wives and children so who was he to deny him.
She also did so as he'd not be labeled a bastard all of his life.
I believe that this is the most likely scenario.
Yep, because there's a plethora of OTHER reasons to label him a bastard.
One potential strategy that could possibly be played by the Bam team is to let the BC issue reach a fever pitch and then produce the Real BC so as to shame the GOP and make ‘em look like fools—that is if BAM BC is legit. Sort of like a rope-a-dope ploy. Just sayin’....!
You might be right...but...what about the divorce documents?
“When Trump proves Obama is a fraud the rest of the “field” will wish they had the courage to jump first.”
I’m actually kinda shocked to hear Rush Limbaugh open to the birther thing now. He never wanted to admit any conspiracy was possible. A lot of people are changing their tune now.
I still will be shocked if the truth ever comes out about Obama and he will ever have to pay any consequences for it.
Try posting any of the following as your opinion and see what it gets ya on FR:
"If Mitt Romney were to be the nominee, there is plenty of time for him to change and become more socially Conservative."
"If Rudy Giuliani were to be the nominee, there is plenty of time for him to change and become more socially Conservative."
"If Tim Pawlenty were to be the nominee, there is plenty of time for him to change and become more socially Conservative."
“Trump is a joke “
Try getting any other Republican candidate to so frankly tell you their positions and stick to them. Trump does.
“Trump’s talent and treasure vs. Barry’s mainstream media”
Chicago versus New York! Let the fight begin!
“I never heard this - does anyone have any statements by Trump on Abortion?”
Guess what? He’s been on TV and interviewed a number of times and he gives his position clearly without any lawyer/polidiot type talk. He clearly states his position as once having been pro-abortion but is now strongly anti-abortion.
I doubt it, because Odumbo already claims that title.
Trump, if elected, would be the 45th. Bush was #43.
My only comment is that if his mother was an American citizen at the time of his birth,
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That wasn’t true for American soldiers who fathered children with Vietnamese babies during the Vietnam War. I may be wrong but I believe that getting American citizenship for these babies of American soldiers and Vietnamese moms was not at all straight forward.
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