Posted on 03/30/2011 3:58:14 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
From today's Laura Ingraham show:
"I have a birth certificate. People have birth certificates. He doesn't have a birth certificate. He may have one but there is something on that birth certificate -- maybe religion, maybe it says he's a Muslim, I don't know. Maybe he doesn't want that. Or, he may not have one."
And:
"I grew up with Wall Street geniuses. What they do in terms of fraud, and how they change documents -- and I'll tell you something, if you notice, those dates were three days later. And here's what I ask people -- who puts announcements? Two poor people, a man and a woman with no money, they have a baby. There's announcements in the newspaper? Nelson Rockefeller doesn't put announcements in. I've never seen one."
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This is shaping up to be a halfway decent episode of an otherwise cheesy reality.
Trump on No spin zone tonight. Maybe he can convince BOR.
O’Reilly also thinks he understands Islam!
He needs to read FR and play another round of golf with Rush.
I don’t understand this part of his argument.
Both of my kids are in their 30’s. We didn’t pay for any announcements, yet their births were announced in the local paper. This is very standard... or at least it used to be and I suspect it still is.
Well, you're right. It wasn't uncommon for small, local newspapers to publicize births (and even weddings and engaements) to promote their circulation.
I don't think Trump is denying that. I think what Trump is saying is that the kind of folks that he associated with growing up ("Wall Street geniuses" who perpetrate "fraud" by "changing documents") would never have put accurate birth information in birth announcements.
Maybe his real name isn’t even barack obama. Maybe it’s osama.
Bill O'Reilly can't find his ass using both hands.
Bush’s grades were superior, Gore flunked out twice.
Been told on here the Hawaii BC did not list religion at the time.
Trump is on O’Reilly tonight. What are the odds that the Birth Certificate issue is brought up? Since I don’t watch BOR I guess I’ll just have to wait to find out.
People didn't fly around the world as easily then as they do now.
Moreover the Dunhams weren't a "prominent family" at this time -- not by any stretch.
A lot of speculation is based on the idea that they were like the Kennedys, which was never the case.
Later on, when Madelyn became a bank VP they had higher status, but at this point, they were just another furniture salesman's family.
Bearing in mind again that this is 1961, if you were a "typical white person" of the day -- as Obama referred to his grandmother, and your daughter got entangled with an African graduate student, would your first thought be to put a fraudulent birth announcement in the paper?
You might have wanted to hush up the whole thing, rather than to publicly advertise it.
Assuming your daughter did give birth in Kenya -- which is pretty unlikely given the times and the circumstances -- if you take the poor health care available in Kenya into account, your grandchild might not even survive to come to America.
Wouldn't it be more likely that you wouldn't issue a fake birth announcement that could raise more questions than it resolved?
By this point it's pretty clear that Obama thinks he has something to hide. Kenyan birth isn't the most likely of possible secrets.
"Muslim" wouldn't have made it onto the birth certificate in any case. More likely, Obama was listed as "Caucasian" or something else rather than "Negro" or "Colored" or "Black" or his father was "Unknown" or someone other than Barack Obama Sr. or his parents were described as unmarried.
Until Obama produces documentation it's always possible that he wasn't born in Hawaii, but I wouldn't put any money on Kenya.
I don’t understand this part of his argument.
Donald Trump is making statement after statement which are easily refutable. He's taking the "birthers" for a ride & is trying to humiliate them.
Both of my kids are in their 30’s. We didn’t pay for any announcements, yet their births were announced in the local paper. This is very standard... or at least it used to be and I suspect it still is.
Same here. When our older children were born, you had to request that the announcement not be published in the paper. We didn't pay for it, either. Publication in the local paper was the standard.
Divorces, weddings, engagements, graduations, débutante events, appointments to military academies, big charity events, appointments in rank, deaths, and bankruptcies were published, too. It was all considered public information.
I'm not sure when it stopped, but I can remember when even smallish papers had social reporters, and I'm not that old (younger than Obama).
A mild understatement!
Take a look at this old FR Thread.
Everything about Obama is an invention. It is truly scary.
ML/NJ
He is “President Tuttle.”
/obscure M*A*S*H reference
Barry was raised in a Muslim country and went to a Muslim school, if I understand correctly.
Barry was married by the Reverend Right in a “Christian” church of sorts.
I wonder if our President has a problem with Muslims and why all of his records are so secret. I doubt that a birth certificate has the persons religion as most have not yet been baptized, but there has to be something strange in all the “secret records.”
Speaking of which, why were Bill Clinton's medical records so secret? Was if STDs or something?
c’mon, give credit where it is due.
he is a Ghazi
working on the Caliph as we speak.
OR how about,
The most powerful muslim in the world?
Now, here Trump is LYING.
He must certainly have seen the Nordyke birth certificates by now. There is no place on these where religion is indicated.
But if it's a little lie intended to draw out the Usurper and his supporters, it's okay with me.
ML/NJ
Didn’t O Rielly have some deal a while back where he was doing himself up the rear end with some sort of organic sponge or something?
Maybe there’s more there to that story. More depravity and junk
Go donald!
Trump seems to be really enjoying poking that beehive with a stick.
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