Posted on 03/30/2011 3:58:14 PM PDT by Smokeyblue
From today's Laura Ingraham show:
"I have a birth certificate. People have birth certificates. He doesn't have a birth certificate. He may have one but there is something on that birth certificate -- maybe religion, maybe it says he's a Muslim, I don't know. Maybe he doesn't want that. Or, he may not have one."
And:
"I grew up with Wall Street geniuses. What they do in terms of fraud, and how they change documents -- and I'll tell you something, if you notice, those dates were three days later. And here's what I ask people -- who puts announcements? Two poor people, a man and a woman with no money, they have a baby. There's announcements in the newspaper? Nelson Rockefeller doesn't put announcements in. I've never seen one."
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I have thought the same thing. Trump can appear to be bungling, but every time he slightly misses the mark, the Obamanists still have to respond to correct him. Brilliant!
BILL ACTUALLY SAID WAY BACK THE HE HAD SEEN THE BIRTH CERT HIMSELF.
And Trump also said maybe Obama doesn't have a US birth certificate.
BOAC, British Overseas Airways Corporation, allowed students, missionary and military to fly free or at reduced rates if the flight wasn’t full.
Does a foreign BC carry a box for religion and does Donald have a copy?
The longest flt I ever did was in 2007. Detroit non-stop to Hong Kong. Over the north pole and flew over Russian, Mongolia, and China. It was 15.5 hours in the air.
Never flew out of IDL, or LGA, but I did many times at EWR.
Last time I flew JFK was going to ZRH. Got to see the Concorde take off at JFK.
Trump knows. He’s not letting on, he’s playing the media, asking basic questions. Now he’s intensifying. We’re not even at summer yet. There’s so much more info Lt. Col Lakin, Pelosi and nomination certificate, passport breach, missing page divorce file, etc.
Never followed Trump, but from his innocent manner dallying around this issue and the way he’s phrasing... he knows far more than he’s letting on, and amazing no one else has the cajones to tackle such a common sense controversy that’s been around for so long. Keep it up and you will have an
army at your back!
Return trip flight would have been Nairobi-Glascow-Vancouver. That was the route. South to Mercer island, Seattle, her old hang out.
I wonder if Trump has ever said the obvious, which is Hussein is ineligible because his father was not an American. There may be other reasons, but that is a reason that Obama wrote about (well, Ayers did) in his book.
If he was not born on US soil, that will be reason #2 he’s not eligible.
I am not American, but I looked at the BC of a friend who was born in Wisconsin in 1951, and his BC has no note of religion of the parents. Said friend told me that in America, the religion of the Bearer is never mentioned in any government issued documents, as religion is considered to be a private affair, and people do convert. Seems sensible to me, but I have read numerous posts on FR alluding to the religion stated on Obummer’s BC, and it does, as you say, make the questioners look silly and their argument weak.
Can anybody here edify me as to whether religion is, indeed, listed on any American BCs?
Not the baby's religion, nor the parent's religion, is listed on any American BCs.
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“As a prominent family all they had to do is call the newspapers “local” desk, give them the “facts” of their grandson’s birth, and voila, an “ad” is published in the newspaper a week or so after the birth.”
Absolutely not. First, in 1961, they weren’t a “prominent” family. They had only moved to Hawaii 1 year early. Stanley was in the furniture business and Madelyn was a bank clerk. She didn’t rise to become bank VP until 1971.
Second, the cookie cutter nature of these announcements shows that the first part of your post is correct: these announcements were routinely published by the hospital based on a list of newborns provided by the state DHS. That’s why the listings are in identical order in 2 different papers, including Obama’s. This never would have happened if the Obama announcement were called in (at minimum, you’d expect a called-in announcement to include the baby’s name etc.).
A Kenyan birth story IS possible: the only difference in the scenario you spun is that grandparents filed for COLB with DHS claiming baby was born at home or something. Once that COLB was filed, it would simply become part of the “batch” of new births officially reported by DHS to the newspapers. Not a shred of “prominence” or behind-the-scenes political pull was needed—just some grandparents motivated enough and savvy enough to give a child conceived out of wedlock U.S. citizenship. Remember that they had many months to prepare for this and likely explored every angle regarding what would be best for their new grandson.
This same scenario works if the baby was born in Vancouver (which I personally regard as more likely) and doesn’t even require Ann Dunham to return to Hawaii. The Vancouver scenario is consistent with various strands of evidence indicating Ann was seen in Seattle by friends so soon after the birth that she still didn’t know how to change a diaper, that she registered for and attended school at UW etc. And it’s logistically and financially way more feasible than the scenario of sending mom halfway around the world for this birth (and then bringing her and newborn halfway around the world to come back). We know from later accounts that Ann was very squeamish about sanitary conditions in Indonesia, so the idea that she’d voluntarily give birth in nearly the most primitive setting imaginable seems unlikely.
That's the nice thing about being mega-rich. He doesn't really need the presidency and he can speak his mind.
See post #59. As several others have said, religion is not on the BC form and I believe it is for the reasons you stated: in America, this is considered a private matter. Having religion a matter of public record might facilitate religious discrimination, which would violate First Amendment etc.
Straight up, Trump.
I just might have to vote for you.
Why not you, FRiend???
Is he humiliating you too, and and I presume you also believe in the Easter Bunny???
Well, he failed at that, didn't he.
“who puts announcements? Two poor people, a man and a woman with no money, they have a baby.”
I don’t understand this part of his argument.
Both of my kids are in their 30’s. We didn’t pay for any announcements, yet their births were announced in the local paper. This is very standard... or at least it used to be and I suspect it still is.
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Here, read it again, stupid. Maybe if you read it real slow, you might understand it this time.
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