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Another Look at Obama’s Social Security Number
Cashill.com ^ | 3-17-11 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/22/2011 1:23:41 PM PDT by STARWISE

While out promoting my new book, “Deconstructing Obama,” I have been asked a few times about Obama’s mysterious Social Security number.

Not knowing enough to speak authoritatively, I chose to swim upstream through the data flood and head for the source.

Here I found a no-nonsense licensed investigator from Ohio named Susan Daniels. Widowed at 30 with seven children, Daniels went back to school and eventually emerged as a certified paralegal.

After several years working for others, Daniels got her own license as an investigator in 1995. Since then, she has specialized in litigation support for law firms. Her particular strength has been in researching assets.

By her own admission, Daniels is “good with public records.” She knows her way around databases and has access to many that the public does not.

“I did not like the way things were going,” Daniels says of the country’s drift circa 2009. And so in the best spirit of citizen journalism, she began to investigate Obama on her own.

What she and fellow investigator Neil Sankey unearthed was a nugget that could have ended the career of a George Bush or a Sarah Plain: Barack Obama had been using a social security number issued in Connecticut between 1977 and 1979, a state in which he never lived or even visited at that time in his life.

This will not come as news to the readers of WorldNetDaily, whose thorough investigation climaxed last June when WND’s veteran White House correspondent Les Kinsolving confronted Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs on the subject.

Predictably, Gibbs laughed Kinsolving off and switched the subject to the birth certificate. Kinsolving had seen this kind of laugh and switch before. In 1982, for instance, he introduced the subject of AIDS to then press secretary Larry Speakes.

“Over a third of [the victims] have died,” said Kinsolving. “It’s known as ‘gay plague.’”

“I don’t have it. Do you?” joked Speakes to a general round of laughter. But unlike Gibbs, Speakes simply did not know any better.

As much as Daniels appreciates the work of WND and other serious investigators who have helped clarify the picture, she is distressed by the few who have clouded it.

“There have been many playing junior investigator from the start,” she jokes. “I don't know if they even have their decoder rings yet.”

This being the case, I asked Daniels to guide me through the data mine field and help me ascertain what we know for sure about the world’s best-known social security number--042-68-4425.

“All I can say,” says Daniels of 042-68-4425, “is that it’s phony and [Obama] has been using it, with it first appearing on his selective service document in 1980.”

Daniels sent me a copy of the hand-written application of the individual who held the number immediately before Obama’s, 042-68-4424. The applicant, Thomas Wood, died at age nineteen which is why his information is available.

Wood's Social Security number was issued sometime between March and May of 1977. Obama would turn sixteen in August of that year. Woods lived on Glenview Drive in Newington, Connecticut, the state from which all “042s” applied. Obama lived in Hawaii.

True to form, the left-leaning media set out to undermine the Social Security controversy and ridicule the investigators. Revealing, however, is the weakness of the response.

“Numbers are assigned based on the return address on the request envelope, not residency,” crowed Jason Linkins in the Huffington Post as though he had said something meaningful. Linkins suggested two possible explanations, both preposterous.

One is that Obama applied for his SSN as a little boy in Indonesia for no known reason, and the application just happened to be processed in Connecticut for no known reason either.

For the second, Jinkins cited the argument of Carole Glibert, in the Yahoo-related “Associated Content.” Said Gilbert, presumably with a straight face, “In fact, Barack Obama's dad attended college in Connecticut and in 1977, Obama was college aged; is it beyond reason to consider that he might have checked out his father's alma mater?”

Last time I checked, Harvard was in Massachusetts. The closest town to Harvard in Connecticut is about 90 minutes away, and there is no record that Obama Sr. lived there, let alone that Obama visited his imaginary alma mater and just happened to apply for a Social Security card while visiting.

Daniels also sent me a copy of Obama’s Selective Service data. Obama appears to have registered on September 4, 1980, a month after his nineteenth birthday. The form lists the telling last four digits of his “042” number, “4425.”

This is the first use of the “042” number that Daniels could find. She is just not sure it is legitimate. Some have credibly argued that the Selective Service information was forged and backdated once Obama became a presidential candidate.

“They were stupid to use the CT number on the [Selective Service] card,” Daniels adds, “because now there is no way for [Obama] to back out of that number.”

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To: STARWISE

When I went to get SS# for my children, I went to the local office and they issued them a number immediately. Both of my kids are in their 30’s now, they received their SS# shortly after the birth of the younger one, so they are sequential.

I worked for some years as a programmer for an insurance company. They not only collected SS# from their customers, they used those SS# as the primary key for their database. On one occasion, I found a duplicate SS#. Both ladies had valid SS cards issued to them in two different states (this was before illegal immigration was such an issue).

Since we needed to resolve the issue, we corresponded and talked with the SSA extensively. Before SSA had centralized computers, they sent batches of available SS# to the local offices for immediate use. On one or two occasions, they duplicated a batch - sent the same batch to two different offices. There are some “legitimate” duplicate numbers out there. The SSA is aware of the duplicated numbers can exist and they will issue you a new SS# and “credit” all of your employment to the new number. Once they sort out what is yours and what belongs to the duplicate. It is a real pain to get done, but better sooner than later.

We had several other interesting experiences with SS#, including an adult male that was using a SS# issued to a young deceased female (and it wasn’t a duplicate).

Before 1973 they were issue by State and after by zip code on the application, so basically it is still by state, although the SSA has done some adding here and subtracting there - moving numbers to larger areas and filling in odd blocks for smaller areas.

While this is interesting - the CT SS# - I certainly don’t see it as definitive. What is more interesting is the many SS#s associated with his residences over the years. This man hides too much.


41 posted on 03/22/2011 3:08:45 PM PDT by Roses0508
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To: curiosity

Curiosity,

I agree with your questioning.

The story seemed very plausible, until it occurred to me to wonder ‘Do we actually know Obama’s SSN?’

I then googled “George Bush’s Social Security Number” and it did not appear that Bush’s SSN was a matter of public record.

If in fact it can be established that the alleged Obama SSN is genuine, and that # can be traced to Connecticut (or wherever), great. Love to see it. Make me happy.


42 posted on 03/22/2011 3:08:51 PM PDT by Michael Eden
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To: Echo4C
...I know that I needed a social security number when I started elementary school...

What? I've never heard of such a thing. Who told you that was the case? You were, what...6 years old?

43 posted on 03/22/2011 3:10:50 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: STARWISE

Unless changed recently MA numbers range from

010 - 034


44 posted on 03/22/2011 3:13:57 PM PDT by deport
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To: faucetman; Curiousity

YIKES!! If ALL or even SOME of that is true, “curiosity” OUGHT to be CURIOUS!!! Are you, curiousity??? Somehow I doubt it.


45 posted on 03/22/2011 3:15:33 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion is the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: evets

LOL That’s the funniest d*mn thing I’ve seen all day.


46 posted on 03/22/2011 3:17:26 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: PA Engineer
He had a dead man's social security number!

I missed that claim. Can you direct me to it?

47 posted on 03/22/2011 3:17:33 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: faucetman
Interesting that no Obot has responded to your post.

And...mmm...mmm...mmm...Isn't interesting to have so many Barack Obamas living in such close proximity to our future White House resident. It's not like “Barack Obama” is a common name.

48 posted on 03/22/2011 3:19:27 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: Cboldt
Add a third problem - even if there was a typo, the assignment to a new applicant would not be a re-issue.

This is my first reading on this subject...can you tell me how we know his is a re-issue.

49 posted on 03/22/2011 3:19:59 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: Mr.Unique

What? I’ve never heard of such a thing. Who told you that was the case? You were, what...6 years old?


In todays enviornment you need to get a social security number for a new born in order to claim that child on your income tax as a dependent...... Has been that way for some time now.


50 posted on 03/22/2011 3:22:14 PM PDT by deport
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To: Catsrus

.

“All I know is that something is rotten in Denmark, and there’s a reason he shelled out nearly $2 million to hide all his records.

People can theorize all they want, but, we want truth and facts. Hopefully, someday soon, we’ll get some answers”

Don’t count on it.

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/12999

(snip)
Every member of the Supreme Court, every member
of congress, every member of the Joint Chiefs, most members of the DOD, CIA, FBI, Secret Service and
state run media, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, PBS, NPR, MSNBC, Fox and print news, knows that Barack Hussein Obama
does NOT meet Article II – Section I constitutional requirements for the office he holds. By his own biography, there is NO way he can pass the test. The hard evidence is so far beyond overwhelming, it is ridiculous.

(snip)
But not ONE member of America’s most powerful people will dare confront Obama and his anti-American cabal
on the subject. The Constitution does NOT stand.

(snip)
Half of the people you expect to stop this insanity
are quiet co-conspirators in the silent coup.
The other half is paralyzed by fear, motivated
only by political self-preservation.

(Snip)
Americans keep asking what they can do because
they see that none of their leaders are doing
anything to stop the demise of their beloved country. It’s the right question, because those leaders
are NOT going to stop this thing.

.


51 posted on 03/22/2011 3:23:34 PM PDT by patriot08 (TEXAS GAL- born and bred and proud of it!)
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To: deport

OK .. my #’s in that range. Thanks.


52 posted on 03/22/2011 3:25:26 PM PDT by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: curiosity
the bureaucrat who processed his application mistyped his zip code.

~ snip ~

Because of the typo, the system had him as living in CT, so it assigned him a SSN that starts with 042.

Ok, if we assume that this is what actually happened, how did Obama actually GET the SS card? It would have been mailed to an incorrect address in CT!!



(Inquiring minds . . . . . . . )

53 posted on 03/22/2011 3:26:34 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: deport

I know. I have 5 kids. But, that wasn’t the question. The questions was about requiring a SS number to start elementary school.


54 posted on 03/22/2011 3:26:43 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My dream thread: Mormon cop shoots Catholic Freeper's Pit Bull and takes his Macbook Pro.)
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To: curiosity
It's no less than a theory than the contention that his SSN is fraudulant. The only difference is that my theory actually fits the facts, whereas yours does not.

Ah, you're an Obamabot!!

How does your theory explain why no less than 9 SSNs have been connected to Obama, as other researchers have found?

55 posted on 03/22/2011 3:29:58 PM PDT by DustyMoment (Go green - recycle Congress in 2012!!)
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To: Michael Eden
If in fact it can be established that the alleged Obama SSN is genuine, and that # can be traced to Connecticut (or wherever), great. Love to see it. Make me happy.

Social securities numbers aren't public records, you are right. Obama's his found its way into the public domain during the controversy surrounding his selective service registration, and it can be verified.

Just type the 042 social security number that is attributed to him into the selective service website, and his name pops up. So yes, indeed, we do know that is his genuine SSN.

56 posted on 03/22/2011 3:29:58 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: faucetman
No, nothing here, move along.

All your link proves is that there are other people with the name Barack Obama living in the United States, and that there are errors in the consumer databases used to track them down. Surprise surprise.

57 posted on 03/22/2011 3:32:46 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: curiosity

I looked at your “About” page, and it is full of your theories that you present as fact claiming they prove Obama was born in Hawaii. Heck, the current leftwing governor can’t prove that Obama even has a birth certificate, much less prove that he was born in Hawaii.

JC


58 posted on 03/22/2011 3:36:51 PM PDT by cracker45 (I don't believe in coincidences!)
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To: DustyMoment
Ok, if we assume that this is what actually happened, how did Obama actually GET the SS card? It would have been mailed to an incorrect address in CT!!

Most likely, the post office realized there was no Honolulu in Connecticut, and so redirected the letter to Hawaii.

If the post office was too dumb to make that deduction, and indeed sent it to the wrong address, Obama, after having not received it after a long wait, would have called the SSA and found out they sent it to the wrong address, and then gave them the correct address.

59 posted on 03/22/2011 3:39:01 PM PDT by curiosity
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To: cracker45
I looked at your “About” page, and it is full of your theories that you present as fact claiming they prove Obama was born in Hawaii. Heck, the current leftwing governor can’t prove that Obama even has a birth certificate, much less prove that he was born in Hawaii.

:-)

60 posted on 03/22/2011 3:40:41 PM PDT by CommieCutter (Promote Liberal Extinction: Support gay marriage and abortion!)
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