Posted on 03/17/2011 11:59:21 AM PDT by RobinMasters
Video Below: Via CNN; - Trump says he has doubts about Obama’s birth place - Alexander Mooney
(CNN) – Donald Trump, the business mogul who continues to claim he is seriously interested in mounting a bid for the White House, says he has doubts about whether President Obama was born in the United States.
In an interview with ABC, Trump said he finds it strange “nobody knew” Obama as a young child in Hawaii.
“Let me tell you, I’m a really smart guy. I was a really good student at the best school in the country. The reason I have a little doubt, just a little, is because he grew up and nobody knew him,” Trump said in the interview that aired Thursday.
“If I got the nomination, if I decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten. They'll remember me. Nobody comes forward. Nobody knows who he is until later in his life. It's very strange,” the Celebrity Apprentice host added. “The whole thing is very strange.”
Current Hawaii Gov. Neil Abercrombie has said he was a friend of Obama’s parents in Hawaii and remembers when the future president was born. Abercrombie, a former congressman who became governor last December, vowed to produce an original copy of Obama’s birth certificate but abandoned those efforts earlier this year because it is against state law to release private documents, according to his spokeswoman.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
When Lincoln was elected(but before he was sworn in), the south knew that he would be a economic disaster, so they chose (legally) to separate themselves from the union. Their right to do so was supported by the Supreme court and the current President Buchanan ,who ordered a peaceful transfer of power to the Confederacy. When Linclon was sworn in he realized that 2/3 of the federal tax base was from the south. He attacked the south, as always follow the money. there is truth to the old saying that we have the best politicans money can buy!!
All one need do is to read the actual Secession Proclamations from the Confederate states to know that.
For example, here are Georgia’s, Mississippi’s, South Carolina’s and Texas’ Declarations: http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html
“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.”
-— Abraham Lincoln, 3/14/1861 First Inaugural Speech slavery was not a issue until 1863.
It was a economic war,nothing more.
p.s. Lincoln sent reinforcements to a fort that was in Confederate territory,purposely to start a fight. He did not inform congress of his actions as he did not have the support to do so.
“I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.”
-— Abraham Lincoln, 3/14/1861 First Inaugural Speech slavery was not a issue until 1863.
It was a economic war,nothing more.
p.s. Lincoln sent reinforcements to a fort that was in Confederate territory,purposely to start a fight. He did not inform congress of his actions as he did not have the support to do so.
A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Georgia from the Federal Union.
“The people of Georgia having dissolved their political connection with the Government of the United States of America, present to their confederates and the world the causes which have led to the separation. For the last ten years we have had numerous and serious causes of complaint against our non-slave-holding confederate States with reference to the subject of African slavery.”
“The people of Georgia, after an equally full and fair and deliberate hearing of the case, have declared with equal firmness that they shall not rule over them. A brief history of the rise, progress, and policy of anti-slavery and the political organization into whose hands the administration of the Federal Government has been committed will fully justify the pronounced verdict of the people of Georgia. The party of Lincoln, called the Republican party, under its present name and organization, is of recent origin. It is admitted to be an anti-slavery party. While it attracts to itself by its creed the scattered advocates of exploded political heresies, of condemned theories in political economy, the advocates of commercial restrictions, of protection, of special privileges, of waste and corruption in the administration of Government, anti-slavery is its mission and its purpose. By anti-slavery it is made a power in the state. The question of slavery was the great difficulty in the way of the formation of the Constitution.”
“If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side.”
-— Ulysses S. Grant
Apparently General Grant does not agree with you either!
p.s. Grant(north) was a slave owner, Lee(south) was not.
Here is a better piece of historical evidence for you that I just found:
Naturalization Question: Attorney General Black’s Opinion Upon Expatriation and Naturalization
New York Times
Published: July 20, 1859
[H]ere none but a native can be President…A Native and a Naturalized American can go forth with equal security over every sea and through every land under heaven, including the country in which the latter was born… They are both of them American citizens, and their exclusive allegiance is due to the government of the United States…One of the never did owe featality elsewhere, and the other, at the time of his naturalization, solemnly and rightfully, in pursuance of public law and municipal regulations, threw off, renounced and abjured forever all allegiance to every foreign prince, potentate, State and sovereignty whatever, and especially to that sovereign whose subject he had previously been. [end quote]
And there is so much more:
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=FB0C13FB34551B7493C2AB178CD85F4D8584F9
See also: THE NATURALIZATION QUESTION.; THE POSITION OF THE ADMINISTRATION DEFINED. Important Offical Paper.
New York Times
Published: July 15, 1859
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F60C14FB34551B7493C7A8178CD85F4D8584F9
“If I thought this war was to abolish slavery, I would resign my commission, and offer my sword to the other side.”
-— Ulysses S. Grant
Apparently General Grant does not agree with you either!
p.s. Grant(north) was a slave owner, Lee(south) was not.
Ulysses S. Grant went on to become President of the United States and advocate for the ratification of the 14th Amendment and preside over the ratification of the 15th Amendment.
Well, it took a couple of years... but it's "out there" now... and the dam is about ready to brake!
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My parents were from the south. The history of the south depends on what point of view you take, the Northern view or the Southern view. I choose the south even though I live in a very liberal Northern state. but this is not the tread for us to discuss the civil war even though the path obama is leading us down could someday lead us to a second civil war.
My parents were from the south. The history of the south depends on what point of view you take, the Northern view or the Southern view. I choose the south even though I live in a very liberal Northern state. but this is not the tread for us to discuss the civil war even though the path obama is leading us down could someday lead us to a second civil war.
Typo #128: brake = break
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You were suggesting that Obama was going to somehow "destroy" his enemies by getting them to go on record and presumably then produce a conclusive birth certificate. I'm only pointing out that such a strategy would fail because of these other factors that are NOT and CANNOT be changed by producing a genuine birth certificate showing birth in Hawaii. I wasn't talking about what the courts or a partisan Congress is or isn't interested in.
You were suggesting that Obama was going to somehow “destroy” his enemies by getting them to go on record and presumably then produce a conclusive birth certificate. I’m only pointing out that such a strategy would fail because of these other factors that are NOT and CANNOT be changed by producing a genuine birth certificate showing birth in Hawaii. I wasn’t talking about what the courts or a partisan Congress is or isn’t interested in.
Congress could most definitely hold hearings on the original intent of Article II, Section 1 and whether two American citizen parents are required in order to be a natural born citizen.
Can you point to ANY national elected Republican who has ever raised the two citizen parent argument? Every statement, pro or con that I am aware of concerns only Obama’s birth in Hawaii or not.
For example:
“Do you question [Obama’s] faith and citizenship?” Sarah Palin was asked during an onstage interview hosted by the Long Island Association.
“I don’t, and those are distractions. What we’re concerned about is the economy. And we’re concerned about the policies coming out of his administration and what he believes in terms of big government or private sector. So, no, the faith, the birth certificate, others can engage in that kind of conversation. It’s distracting. It gets annoying and let’s just stick with what really matters.”
This was your word, not mine in post #101: "Enemies destroyed in the Fall of 2012 are much better than enemies destroyed mid-term."
Obama wants 2012 potential presidential candidate opponents on the record regarding his eligibility as a natural born citizen, nothing less, nothing more. That’s why he keeps bringing up the birth in Hawaii issue. The movement is called “birthers” not “parenters!”
The movement is called birthers by desperate and pathetic partisans (no offense) who are trying too hard to marginalize reasonable suspicions about Obama's porous background and lack of legal documentation. Again, if he eventually presents a legal, verifiable birth record, it won't explain away his other problems, no matter how much "birther" whining is done.
The movement is called birthers by desperate and pathetic partisans (no offense) who are trying too hard to marginalize reasonable suspicions about Obama’s porous background and lack of legal documentation. Again, if he eventually presents a legal, verifiable birth record, it won’t explain away his other problems, no matter how much “birther” whining is done.
Am I supposed to be hunting for something to help you make a point??
“Am I supposed to be hunting for something to help you make a point??”
Okay everyone will stfu when Obama releases his notation of birth on record in Hawaai, college records, law license records,passport records,high school records,grade school records and whether his alias Barry Soetoro is is current legal name.
Okay everyone will stfu when Obama releases his notation of birth on record in Hawaai, college records, law license records,passport records,high school records,grade school records and whether his alias Barry Soetoro is is current legal name.
He was able to get 69,456,897 popular votes and 365 Electoral College votes without releasing any of those files.
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