Posted on 01/24/2011 10:10:04 AM PST by SGW
New information has come to the fore that explains in detail why President Obama simply does not want to show his birth certificate. The controversy has to do with the idea that the President’s legal name on his birth certificate is Barry Soetoro not Barrack Obama. It also has to do with the idea that all kinds of white lies were told on his college transcripts so he could qualify for student aide as a foreign student under the name Barry Soetoro. This is a story about potential fraud on a grand scale which is why the President does not want to show his birth certificate.
Back in April of 2010 the Arizona legislature had crafted a law requiring that presidential candidates present their birth certificates and supporting documents proving their eligibility for the 2012 presidential elections and beyond. The argument was that the Congress simply did not do its job in vetting President Obama and the Arizona legislature would make sure this would never happen again. At the time the president of the Arizona senate did not bring the bill up for discussion and therefore stalled the bill. Had it come up for a vote the bill would have passed.
Imagine if during the 2012 elections Obama refuses to show his birth certificate.
(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...
So, either there is no Long form BC or the state is lying and covering up something. This should all have been hashed out in 2008. The GOP fell down on the job bigtime. McCain never should have shown his long form BC until Barry showed his.
Note that there were already challenges to McCain in 3 different states at the time.
There are as I understand it other states now crafting eligibility statutes for the 2012 elections.
I suspect most states already have in place statutes/laws/codes outlining elgibility which requires a certification of elgibility of the candidate. What they apparently don’t have is a requirement for proof of that elgibility..
Here is what a couple of states already have on the books:
Texas: http://www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us/Docs/EL/htm/EL.192.htm
SUBCHAPTER B. PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE-PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES
Sec. 192.031. PARTY CANDIDATE’S ENTITLEMENT TO PLACE ON BALLOT. (a) A political party is entitled to have the names of its nominees for president and vice-president of the United States placed on the ballot in a presidential general election if:
(1) the nominees possess the qualifications for those offices prescribed by federal law;
(2) the party’s state chair signs a written certification of:
(A) the names of the party’s nominees for president and vice-president; and
(B) the names and residence addresses of presidential elector candidates nominated by the party, in a number equal to the number of presidential electors that federal law allocates to this state;
(3) the party’s state chair delivers the written certification to the secretary of state before the later of:
(A) 5 p.m. of the 70th day before presidential election day; or
(B) 5 p.m. of the first business day after the date of final adjournment of the party’s national presidential nominating convention; and
(4) the party is:
(A) required or authorized by Subchapter A of Chapter 172 to make its nominations by primary election; or
(B) entitled to have the names of its nominees placed on the general election ballot under Chapter 181.
(b) If the state chair’s certification of the party’s nominees is delivered by mail, it is considered to be delivered at the time of its receipt by the secretary of state.
Acts 1985, 69th Leg., ch. 211, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1986. Amended by Acts 1997, 75th Leg., ch. 864, Sec. 203, eff. Sept. 1, 1997.
Amended by:
Acts 2005, 79th Leg., Ch. 1109, Sec. 21, eff. September 1, 2005.
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 355, Sec. 1, eff. September 1, 2009.
Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 1235, Sec. 17, eff. September 1, 2009.
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New Hampshire:
http://www.sos.nh.gov/rsa655.htm
655:17-b Declaration of Intent; Presidential Candidates Who File Nomination Papers.
I. Declarations of intent for each candidate for president who seeks nomination by nomination papers shall be in the form provided in paragraph II. Declarations of intent required by this section shall be filed with the secretary of state, signed by the candidate, and notarized by a notary public.
II. I, _________, swear under penalties of perjury that I am qualified to be a candidate for president of the United States pursuant to article II, section 1, clause 4 of the United States Constitution, which states, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.” I further declare that I am domiciled in the city (or town or unincorporated place) of _____, county of ____, state of ____, and am a qualified voter therein; that I intend to be a candidate for the office of president to be chosen at the general election to be held on the ____ day of ____; and I intend to file nomination papers by the deadline established under RSA 655:43. I further declare that, if qualified as a candidate for said office, I shall not withdraw; and that, if elected, I shall be qualified for and shall assume the duties of said office.
My wife was adopted in the 1960’s in Virginia. She was born in Ohio, and the BC in Ohio was changed to reflect the adopted parents name; date, time, location, doctor all remain the same. There is no notion of “amended” or anything on the BC to indicate that she was adopted or that there ever was a prior “original” BC in existence. The only way she knows different is that her adopted parents told her, and provided a copy of the adoption papers which indicated who the birth parents were.
"Barry is not my Bubba"
I don’t qute get this. It wasn’t an issue for Gary Hartpence or William Jefferson Blythe.
This is a story about potential fraud on a grand scale
White lie and "fraud on a grand scale" don't seem to be related to me.
And that is why you will never see the original.
He will have committed document fraud his entire life.
We know who their parents were.
We know they were American citizens, making G. Hart and Clinton “Natural Born Citizens”
No NBC means you can do any job in America but you cannot be the President.
Should be a notation in box 18 saying it amended.
I am looking at mine right now.
This chart omits one other consideration-that of a child born to to US citzens abroad while serving under military or governemntal directive. Such children are still, as I understand it, Natural born. John McCain falls in to this circumstance, as does my son. My Son was issued a “certificate of birth abroad of a US citzen” by the US Embassy in West Germany. He is a natural born citizen.
McCain was born under similar circumstances in the Canal Zone, which was incidental to duty abroad of his father.
Is that strawbarry, bosenbarry, or perhaps some other barry (berry)?
Just barry, barry, barry bad.
Or possibly “Bork Obunga; Before he borks you”.
thats right!
“imagine President Obama trying to defend not showing his birth certificate when other presidential candidates will comply willingly during the 2012 elections?
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BC with Maya? Listen to Rush.
Good summary of issues
This chart omits one other consideration-that of a child born to to US citzens abroad while serving under military or governemntal directive. Such children are still, as I understand it, Natural born. John McCain falls in to this circumstance, as does my son. My Son was issued a “certificate of birth abroad of a US citzen” by the US Embassy in West Germany. He is a natural born citizen.
McCain was born under similar circumstances in the Canal Zone, which was incidental to duty abroad of his father.
Interesting. Has that been determined by Congress or the courts to be so?
That would then imply that Stanley Ann Dunham was working for the United States government in 1961? And who would the citizen father be?
Nah...he would just whip out one of the four versions of COLB’s that have been out there and say it is good enough to get in the CIA.
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