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The Gifford's Shooting Blame Game
Opinipundit ^ | 1/9/11 | traderrob

Posted on 01/09/2011 6:59:51 AM PST by traderrob6

How pathetic that the left as a matter of genetic prediposition must blame someone for the bad things that happen to themselves individually or their collective movement. The left has always had a problem with the acceptance of personal reponsiblity and it has never been more evident than

The blood had not dried from the horrific shootings in Tuscon before the like of Paul Krugman, dKos, Rep Linda Lopez, and a host of others including Fox began to subtly and not so subtly brand the shooter as a right wing tea partier or at least motivated by said. Absolutely no evidence of that existed or yet exists, but damn the facts, full speed ahead. As Rahm Emanuel so succinctly stated, "never let a good crisis go to waste", they didn't.

While most on the right prayed for Gabrielle Giffords and all the victims and families, the Turkey Vultures on the left were busy scavenging the dead and critically injured on CNN, MSNBC, and anywhere else someone would give them a forum to spew their poisonous venom. It became evident early on that the victims were far less important to the left than using them for cannon fodder to attack the right and particularly the Tea Party. Shameless partisan politics at it's worst, it's beyond shameless.

The bottom line is that the shooter Jared Loughner was one very screwed up individual. His leanings actually appear to be somewhat leftist but his writings and rantings are so totally confused and disjointed that we may never know where his political allegiance really lies. Suffice it to say that any conjecture on his motivations is so highly speculative that it is far beyond the pervue of anyone to comment intelligently on that subject. And untill the facts are known, it's just the worst kind of agitprop.

I just hope the majority of Americans are astute enough to see it for what it is.


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: giffords; shooting; tuscon

1 posted on 01/09/2011 6:59:53 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: traderrob6
Here's what I found after some digging:

Did "Conscious Dreaming" Cause a Psychotic Break? ("Conscience dreams were a great study" -Loughner)

2 posted on 01/09/2011 7:01:11 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: traderrob6

The template has gone out to the Far Left media from Socialist Central Propaganda Planning.


3 posted on 01/09/2011 7:02:11 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Surfers Rule)
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To: traderrob6

Legislation to that effect will soon follow.


4 posted on 01/09/2011 7:10:07 AM PST by PSYCHO-FREEP ( Give me Liberty, or give me an M-24A2!)
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To: traderrob6

If a conservative had been the killer, we’d know EVERY conservative organization he had ever attended. Odd how we’re NOT getting that information...


5 posted on 01/09/2011 7:11:29 AM PST by GOPJ (When liberals are FORCED to pay for Rush Limbaugh's show, I'll be happy to pay for NPR.)
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To: GOPJ

Did Arizona take down their searchable database for contributors???

http://www.azsos.gov/cfs/CampaignFinanceSearch.htm


6 posted on 01/09/2011 7:17:56 AM PST by RummyChick
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

My daughter worked at a mental health clinic for many years and is currently getting her nurse practioner’s degree to continue that work. I would think the alcohol, pot and conscious dreaming were all an attempt to “self-medicate” or to “cure” his illness. He knows something is wrong and has know for some time. He was trying to find a way to help himself. Too bad those who love him didn’t get him more help. No doubt, this young man will never be well. His actions were not political, they were simply the actions of a very disturbed, very sick young man.


7 posted on 01/09/2011 7:20:32 AM PST by Roses0508
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To: traderrob6
As Glenn Beck has been saying, the left is trying to create violence. They can't stir Christians to kill without real cause so they have to make up false stories. This is just one of them.
8 posted on 01/09/2011 7:23:30 AM PST by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: Roses0508

We don’t know that those who love him didn’t try to get him more help. If this man is mentally disturbed, he more than likely would not understand how badly he needed treatment. If he was living in psychosis he may have been unable to understand that he needed help.

I’ve known families where it takes many tries before they can get the correct mental health professionals on board, and even years before the right diagnosis is determined and correct treatment is implemented.


9 posted on 01/09/2011 7:27:10 AM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: traderrob6
"His leanings actually appear to be somewhat leftist but his writings and rantings are so totally confused and disjointed that we may never know where his political allegiance really lies."

Fox is now saying the shooter and/or his accomplice has some kind of connection to American Renaissance -- apparently a white supremacist magazine.

Does anyone know anything about these people?

Is there any confirmed connection to the shooter and/or accomplice?

10 posted on 01/09/2011 7:30:41 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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To: BroJoeK

I think the shooter was all over the map politically and had been flailing around for years trying to find something he could attach himself to.

I’m sick of Fox—they are getting no better than the others. Their drivel and lack of clarity yesterday was infuriating. They’d better get it right, as it’s true the American people are angry—they are angry about being shafted by their politicians and the special interest groups that fund them. I’m predicting more of this lashing out by people with very little to lose.


11 posted on 01/09/2011 7:39:59 AM PST by binreadin
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To: traderrob6

The antics of the clowns on FOX News Channel yesterday were disgraceful. IMHO. While they were telling us that Giffords was deceased, they were also telling us that Sarah Palin and Americans belonging to the TEA Party were responsible for this tragedy. FNC really needs to get a grip.


12 posted on 01/09/2011 7:43:49 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Repealing ObamaCare is the next "Big ****ing Deal"!)
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To: traderrob6

Except in cases such as 911 or Fort Hood, they go to the ends of the earth to say it has nothing to do with any others of the same belief system or others who have made statements, etc. It is all said to be isolated persons or a single nutjob. Anyone who even remotely suggests that a belief or religion had a part to play in violence is called intolerant and stupid and ignorant.


13 posted on 01/09/2011 7:48:18 AM PST by Anima Mundi (If you try to fail and you succeed , what have you just done?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
The news media have been trained to create "templates" - prefabricated boxes in which to fit people and events to make them not understandable so much as marketable as "news". They learn this from journalism schools and then from editors and producers who have made careers of it.

The plain task of finding and reporting facts - no matter how confusing, complex or even seemingly contradictory - has long taken a back seat to creating programming and headlines. It is left to a discerning and properly skeptical public to make sense of what the media will not.

14 posted on 01/09/2011 7:51:37 AM PST by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

You should have watched the NFL games instead. ;-0


15 posted on 01/09/2011 7:59:23 AM PST by verity
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To: verity

I did. As soon as FNC marched Shemp Smith out, I went over the the pre-game show.


16 posted on 01/09/2011 8:02:45 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (DNC memo - "Don't let this thing go to waste! Exploit! Exploit! Exploit!")
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To: andy58-in-nh

Well said.


17 posted on 01/09/2011 8:05:09 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: Roses0508

His actions were not political, they were simply the actions of a very disturbed, very sick young man.


I mostly agree with that. If there is any “ideology” involved, it’s conspiracy theory junk, which is absolutely rampant on the internet where he spent a lot of time. I would imagine it fed into his psychotic thinking like rocket fuel. He seemed to have absorbed the entire conspiracy universe without filtering any of it. He was into Mayan calendar, UFOs, Illuminati, mind control, Bohemian Grove, the whole bit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gAU550GlLQ


18 posted on 01/09/2011 8:21:51 AM PST by Yardstick
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To: binreadin
binreadin: "I think the shooter was all over the map politically..."

If the Fox report is true about some connection to "American Renaissance", that is not "all over the map", but is a rather well-defined racist organization.

binreadin: "I’m sick of Fox—they are getting no better than the others."

Sometimes I agree with you.
I'd say yesterday they had their "liberal team" out in full force, eagerly lapping up every anti-conservative news item -- true or false -- they ran into.

And I don't think I'm the only one here bothered by the timing of this -- it seems made to order for President Obama.
It will be turned into Obama's Oklahoma City bombing, and used to take wind out of Republican sails.

Possibly, eventually Fox's "conservative team" (fair and balanced!) will begin to sort things out.

But I now suspect the worst case will turn out to be: we must explain (yet again) to the world how racists like American Renaissance are not Conservatives -- especially racists who admire socialists like Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler!

19 posted on 01/09/2011 8:25:03 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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binreadin: "They’d better get it right, as it’s true the American people are angry—they are angry about being shafted by their politicians and the special interest groups that fund them.
I’m predicting more of this lashing out by people with very little to lose."

Now you're going too far.
The shooter (so it appears) is a very confused white supremacist, admirer of Karl Marx and Adolf Hitler (remember Columbine?).

The primary victim was an attractive "moderate" Blue Dog Democrat, former Republican, pro-second amendment, who had just been on Fox News advocating reduced Federal spending and a balanced budget.
Her husband is an astronaut, and she is Jewish.

So none of that shooting had anything to do with rational political discourse.
Therefore, the real concern now is, how many more nut-cases like that do we have running around loose?

20 posted on 01/09/2011 8:41:22 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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