Posted on 12/24/2010 7:39:05 AM PST by JDPendry
Whenever special interest driven politicians force social engineering on Americans and their Armed Forces, there are always consequences.
The premise is that all homosexuals want to be known primarily by their sexual identity. If this is true why did a college kid commit suicide when his homosexuality, obviously against his desire, was made public? I am asking because the popular meme is that every homosexual is eager to share his or her private sexual identity with the remainder of the world and treat it as his or her primary attribute. That may not be so, but it will be the consequence of this particular endeavor into social engineering.
If you accept that premise then your indoctrination is complete. The only people you cannot tolerate are the Christian fanatics who still believe in something with a foundation infinitely more solid than moral relativism.
Has anyone given even a modicum of thought about the feelings of homosexuals who are serving and are doing so because they want to be identified as Soldiers first before they are identified as being homosexuals? How many of them will end up like the college kid from Rutgers because people like Congressman Barney Frank insists that we accept a person because of their sexual orientation before we accept them as anything else?
Might I ask you? Do you want your spouse to post on Facebook or stand on your front lawn and lay out the details of your private sex life to everyone who passes by whether they care a whit to know about it or not and regardless of your feelings on the matter?
Is sexual orientation now going to be our most important identifying characteristic - for Soldiers or anyone? Superseding even race, ethnicity and gender - another hyphen preceding our already hyphenated identities? If it is, then the fallacy that repealing the law is actually about service is clearly exposed. Is it not?
I read the discussion forums frequented by Army Noncommissioned Officers. There is no overwhelming number either for or against open homosexual service. Most of them are firm in what they believe. That is what I expect of Army NCOs. Stand up for what you believe. But support what you believe with what you know, not what you think you know or how you feel. Do some critical thinking about this issue that takes you below the red herrings of service and rampant homophobia.
I read in those forums that homosexuals have always served and we all know who they are. Do you know any? Can you name them? What difference does it make now if you point them out to the rest of us who are not perceptive enough to identify homosexuals on sight?
In all of my time in the Army, including 4 years as a Unit First Sergeant and 6 years as a Command Sergeant Major, I saw many more trained and qualified Soldiers separated for being overweight than for being homosexual. Not all of them wanted to leave the service either. Why were they separated? It was certainly not because of their performance. Many of them worked much harder than the pencil-necked headquarters policy wonks just to prove that they were worth keeping. They were separated because they did not fit into someone’s idea of what a Soldier should look like. Their sin was having more than the allowable amount of body fat. Often only a little more. There are dogonned few jobs in the Army that require thin bodies.
I am not too concerned about the troops themselves, only their safety. They will fulfill their obligations and do what is asked of them. American Soldiers are renowned for their ability to adapt to their situation, but how many of them will remain at the end of their obligation?
I am more concerned about the leadership. I know a tad about military leaders. They want the led to view them as Soldiers and leaders first and not as something else. They do not want the deadly possibility that Soldiers might lose even a little bit of trust in them because they may be distracted by the leader’s homosexuality. When there are any chinks in the armor of trust that an Army leader wears, he or she becomes less effective and subsequently a more deadly leader. It is just a matter of fact.
The other thing we are told is that thousands now serving in the military will no longer have to live a lie. You would think by the talk and discussions that our military forces are overwhelmingly homosexual. Pardon me if I am just a bit skeptical of that presumption.
The remainder of the military, comprising many more thousands and including the leadership who do not accept homosexuality as normal behavior, will now most certainly have to choose to live a lie about who they are by pretending that they do accept it. That is more dangerous to any military unit than outright and overt opposition. Or they can be true to what they believe and hold dear, as has been pounded into the heads of American Soldiers for generations, salute and quietly leave for a place where they are not forced to accept as moral something they firmly believe is immoral.
If I heard it once, I heard it a hundred of times. The Army recruits Soldiers, it retains families. This is unquestionably true. More than half of our Soldiers, at least the last time I looked, are married. The number of married Soldiers has steadily increased since we became an all-volunteer force in the 70’s. This reflects a career, professional, and volunteer force. That is one reason we are for now the world’s best. How many of those career families that provide the most professional leadership of any military force in the history of the world will now exit at the first opportunity?
The Commander in Chief, his Congress, the Secretary of Defense and the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff have established their legacies. Let us see how history records them. Maybe we will be the next dusty volume in the historical collection of the rise and fall of great nations. Maybe that is the consequence, intended or not.
Oh, just because I’m an active member of FR and fully support the owner’s mission here.
So if the Bondage and Sado-masocism leather enthusiast life is the kind you meant, it would appear to me that you are on the wrong site.
If by leather enthusiast you mean that you like leather knife holders, boots and jackets, that’s fine and dandy.
Well you sure sound like someone who works for the 0bama administration and wants to stick his nose in my darn personal life.
I’m here to discuss issues with like minded conservatives. Nothing more, nothing less.
Conservatives who are brand new on a website don’t generally ask perfect strangers they know nothing about, if they are a recovering homosexual. So you’re digging into someone else’s private life, but you are annoyed I’m asking you about something you have on your profile page and in your screen name?
And therefore I work for the 0bastard administration?
Conservatives also don’t boast on their profile page about being into the Bondage, Discipline and Sado-Masochism perversion crap.
Of course, maybe you mean you like leather jackets, boots and knife holders.
Oh, and by the way, there are probably plenty of people in the 0bastard administration into the BDSM life. So....
Do conservatives have links to bondage sites at the ready like yourself? You seemed to produce that link a little too quickly...
For your information my father used to tan leather, so I’ve been around it all of my life.
No, I just have run or helped run the Homosexual Agenda and Moral Absolutes ping lists for years on FR. And I know how to do google and other searches.
So you’re not into the BDSM lifestyle, then. Why get so upset, then?
What’s that they say about people in glass houses?
Sorry, I’m not into BDSM or any other perverted crap.
I just fight the promotion of it here on FR.
BTTT
And plenty of homosexuals have not had an honorable tenure in the military:
Ten Reasons to Oppose an “LGBT Law” or Policy for the Military
The Center for Military Readiness ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608259/posts
Senate Testimony: European Militaries Are Not Role Models for U.S.
The Center for Military Readiness ^ | 3/22/2010
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608228/posts
Rates of Homosexual Assault in the Military Are Disproportionately High
FRC ^
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608306/posts
In Support the 1993 Law Stating that Homosexuals are not Eligible to Serve in the Military
CMR ^ | July 23, 2008 | Elaine Donnelly
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2608370/posts
“THE REAL PENTAGON POLL: 91% OF SERVICE MEMBERS REJECT HOMOSEXUAL LEADERS - 1 IN 4 WOULD QUIT”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635458/posts
“MILITARY: Marines lead opposition to repeal of ‘don’t ask, don’t tell’”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2635350/posts
“Mullen: Troops Who Balk at Change in Gay Service Policy Can Find Other Work”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2636350/posts
I must apologize; I read that least sentence of your post much differently than you seem to have intended. Sorry again.
You seem obsessed with “fighting” homosexuality though. More so than any straight man should be.
Hahaha.
Feeble. Surely you can do better.
Shopworn talking point. Did you get it at Goodwill?
That was no attempt at humor or derision. If I were to refer to you as little ted haggard though...
You won’t last long on FR. If JR wasn’t nailing up his Christmas stocking, you’d be nothing but a little spot of fried grease on the floor.
Do you always run to daddy when things don’t go your way?
You may have missed this thread, since you’re a noob, unless you’re recently banned and signed up again, which is distinct possilibility. Jim had a good time zotting probably at least 20 or so people (so far). He appreciates being alerted to people whose agendas are opposed to the mission of Free Republic. You should check it out!
Oh, and since you advertise yourself as a “leather enthusiast” via your screen name and on your profile page, it’s only natural for people to wonder if you like leather jackets, belts and holsters, or if you are into perverted sexual sado-masochism. Your faux outrage is transparent and laughable. And, btw, you never did answer which kind of leather enthusiast you are.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2644629/posts
If you support the homosexual agenda you are anti-Constitution and you’ll get the zot from FR!
Jim Robinson
Posted on Saturday, December 18, 2010 11:33:01 AM by Jim Robinson
A couple more posters got zotted today.
Guess we need another reminder:
If you support the homosexual agenda you are anti-constitution and you’ll get the zot from FR. Homosexuals already have the same “rights” as everyone else. God did not grant and the constitution does not guarantee homosexuals any special rights. In fact, the homosexual agenda is a full frontal attack on OUR God-given, constitutionally protected rights to free speech, freedom of religion, freedom of association, Life, Family, Marriage, Pursuit of Happiness, etc.
I don’t want it on FR and won’t have it on FR.
Like abortion, if you support the homosexual agenda on FR, your account here will be zotted!
Don’t like it? Tough frickin Shinola! Get the hell OFF this conservative site!!
No, apparently it’s only natural for YOU to wonder which kind of leather I’m into. You’ll notice that you’re the only person on FR who has asked me about it. Project much?
I deal with beta males like you all the time. So, if you want to keep playing this game, I’ll happily indulge and continue to embarrass you.
Uh - I’m a grandmother, not a beta male.
You never answered a polite question, but purposely stoked the fire of suspicion.
You signed up a few days ago and have no posting history hardly.
On the internet, no one knows you’re a dog.
Until you bark a lot.
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