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California Missile: Chinese Cyberwar or DOD ‘Accident’?
http://deathby1000papercuts.com/2010/11/california-missile-chinese-cyberwar-or-dod-accident/ ^ | 10/14/10

Posted on 11/14/2010 12:18:43 PM PST by roses of sharon

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Yet another point of view!

But an interesting history of news reports of past Chinese hacking.

1 posted on 11/14/2010 12:18:47 PM PST by roses of sharon
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To: roses of sharon

bkmk


2 posted on 11/14/2010 12:26:24 PM PST by quickquiver (No, means N O.)
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To: roses of sharon
OK. I confess. It was me.


3 posted on 11/14/2010 12:32:46 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: roses of sharon

I’m not sure I’m ready to buy the Chinese hacker story but there are sure a bunch of coincidences here.

The Minuteman missile outage is really puzzling to me, as I used to live near FE Warren AFB where this happened. I’ve toured the launch control facility and they told us there were multiple REDUNDANT lines of communication, in other words, cutting a single cable could not cause such an outage. The AF hasn’t given a detailed explanation but saying that they could not access 5 flights of 10 missiles each just doesn’t square with what I understood about how redundant these installations are.

How many years ago would we have been at DEFCON 4 with SAC bombers in the air over less than this? Today we worry about gays rights...


4 posted on 11/14/2010 12:33:28 PM PST by bigbob
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To: roses of sharon

If you want to parse it in “Clintonese” you might want to note that technically speaking, anything that moves through the air is an aircraft, so if the DoD and Obama-types want to claim a missile counts as an aircraft, they would be right.

I don’t know enough about airplanes or missiles to judge, but I trust an Air Force Lt.Gen. to know what he is talking about.


5 posted on 11/14/2010 12:36:10 PM PST by Ronin (Add sufficient applied thrust and pigs fly just fine. However, don't ask about the flying monkeys.)
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To: roses of sharon
It is easier to believe that a Chinese sub launched one 35 miles off the cost than one of ours did it.
6 posted on 11/14/2010 12:42:19 PM PST by Paperpusher
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To: Candor7; roses of sharon

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7 posted on 11/14/2010 12:43:02 PM PST by thouworm
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Have it on good background that the US Navy has stepped-up patrols off the Cali coast. That might discount the hacker theory.


8 posted on 11/14/2010 12:43:30 PM PST by CARTOUCHE
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To: roses of sharon
Unless chicoms have a way of communicating with the computers on US boomers while submerged, I doubt hacking is involved. Missile launches still follow Cold War protocols of two key launches. I believe a more likely scenario is a Chicom boomer conducting a test launch drill but failing to follow protocols which resulted in a real launch of an unarmed missile.

I think of the scene from the Bedford Incident when weapons officer James MacArthur, overstressed from 24 hours at GQ hears Captain Richard Widmark say the phrase fire one in while speaking to former U Boat skipper Eric Portman, and understands the phrase as orders to "Fire One" and launches an ASROC at a nuclear armed Soviet sub.

9 posted on 11/14/2010 12:44:58 PM PST by xkaydet65
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I can’t believe this was a sub launched missile from a foreign navy. If it was, stock up on canned food and ammo and head for the hills.


10 posted on 11/14/2010 12:52:50 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: roses of sharon

If it wasn’t a Chinese missile, or a Russian missile, or a Korean missile, it has to have temped all of them to see what they can get away with. My guess is that we are far more vulnerable to all sorts of attacks than Washington wants us to know. All that tax money, all the wars, all the aggravation at airports, and an enemy can hit us anytime they want, a nuke from a sub, in a packing container at one of our ports, or smuggled across the Mexican border in a bale of marijuana. Meanwhile, Obamao is out there apologizing to all of our enemies. All the damage they can do to us, and none of it is equal to what the enemy within is doing.


11 posted on 11/14/2010 12:55:48 PM PST by pallis
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It must have been that same Chinese mini-sub which destroyed the oil platform in the Gulf. ;-)
12 posted on 11/14/2010 12:57:44 PM PST by verity
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If this was a missile, where did it go?

Where did the boosters, which should separate and drop away go?

In the video, is the missile going up or down?

How comes there’s no burning exhaust plume?


13 posted on 11/14/2010 1:00:03 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: roses of sharon

What’s hard to believe is that we can land men on the moon and develop the technology to land spacecraft on Mars but we can’t find out what the he!! this thing was in our sky? Either the Government doesn’t want panic or they made a big mistake.


14 posted on 11/14/2010 1:04:36 PM PST by jerseyrocks
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To: pallis
This whole thing stinks like air force one joyriding around NYC.
Damage control to cover Obama' butt?
15 posted on 11/14/2010 1:07:23 PM PST by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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Have it on good background that the US Navy has stepped-up patrols off the Cali coast. That might discount the hacker theory.

Could discredit the 'airplane contrail' theory...

16 posted on 11/14/2010 1:09:48 PM PST by GOPJ ('Power abdicates only under the stress of counter-power." Martin Buber /a Tea-nami's coming..)
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If it was an aircraft, why isn’t this contrail or plume replicated everyday around the same time this past week? The helicopter news reporter saw an anamoly, and that is what he took footage of. If it is to show off some new capability of the military, do you think our government would be speaking publicly about it (pictures are worth a thousand words). Or maybe the timing was to allow some foreign governments to witness this.


17 posted on 11/14/2010 1:10:12 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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19 posted on 11/14/2010 1:11:25 PM PST by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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If a US SLBM was launched, where did the nuc tip missile go????? Same with a nuc tip sub cruise missile. It takes off and lands somewhere with a mushroom cloud. Every earthquake monitor along the west coast would be kicking live. So far no indications of explosion. Furthermore major universities have ocean sonar networks for ocean and marine studies. Any water missile launch will also be recorded and detected. If it was a missile, a possible jihadist demo of a manportable SAM shot from a merchant ship???? I think that is more plausible then huge missiles fired from Chicom or US subs.


20 posted on 11/14/2010 1:14:55 PM PST by Fee
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