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Mysterious missile launch most likely US Air flight 808
Island Turtle ^ | November 11, 2010 | Corky Boyd

Posted on 11/10/2010 12:27:27 AM PST by Corky Boyd

Network news and the internet were abuzz with the report and video by Los Angeles CBS affiliate KCBS of a reported missile launch late Monday afternoon -- around 5 PM. Both the Air Force and the Navy denied they had any missiles launches at the time. According to CBS News the Defense Department remains baffled.

"Nobody within the Department of Defense that we've reached out to has been able to explain what this contrail is, where it came from," Pentagon spokesman Col. Dave Lapan said. "So far, we've come up empty with any explanation."

And they go on:

"The FAA told CBS News that they ran radar replays of a large area west of Los Angeles based on media reports of the location of a possible missile launch, but they did not reveal any fast moving unidentified targets in that area. The FAA also did not receive any reports of any unusual sightings from pilots in the area."

"The North American Aerospace Defense Command, or NORAD, issued a statement jointly with the U.S. Northern Command, or NORTHCOM, saying that the contrail was not the result of a foreign military launching a missile. It provided no further details."

A search for flights that could have left a contrail led me to US Air’s flight 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix. The flight took off from Honolulu at 10:06 AM HST, passed over Catalina Island at 5:03 PM PST....

(Excerpt) Read more at islandturtle.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: blog; blogpimp; californiamissile; contrail; disinformation; missilelaunch; mysterymissile; propaganda; usair
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To: SeeSac

Not like a missile. The plume from an srb comes out so fast it leaves sawtooth edges. Puffs of smoke. Not water vapor.


141 posted on 11/10/2010 2:17:12 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Finny
Have you ever watched a missile launch? Not film of one, but an actual missile launch?

Yes. I also once lived in Orlando like you and I also stayed in a Holiday Inn but since the object in question is on film, what is the relevancy of your question?

142 posted on 11/10/2010 2:17:12 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

Have you ever watched a missile launch? Not film of one, but an actual missile launch? Do you seriously think you’re more qualified than a long-time FReeper (I think his handle is Missileer) who spent something like 17 years working around missiles, to identify the event in the video?


143 posted on 11/10/2010 2:17:14 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
Have you ever watched a missile launch? Not film of one, but an actual missile launch?

Nope, and I suspect that nearly 100% of the people that think this was a missile didn't watch this supposed one live either but are basing their opinion on the video.

144 posted on 11/10/2010 2:17:31 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: screaminsunshine
Not like a missile. The plume from an srb comes out so fast it leaves sawtooth edges. Puffs of smoke. Not water vapor.

Do you have a photo for an example?

145 posted on 11/10/2010 2:19:12 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: Finny
Do you seriously think you’re more qualified than a long-time FReeper (I think his handle is Missileer) who spent something like 17 years working around missiles, to identify the event in the video?

I don't know. I have never seen 'Missileer' post.

146 posted on 11/10/2010 2:22:35 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac
ONE of the guys? Try a whole lotta people with missile experience, here on FR and also callers to So Cal radio shows. Not just "ONE of the guys." Many of them.

Wake up, dear.

If the Pentagon wants to deceive Americans by telling them it wasn't a missile, they must have their reasons, and chances are they're damned good reasons. Doesn't change the reality that an organized attempt to deceive thee and me is happening at high levels in media and government.

147 posted on 11/10/2010 2:22:56 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Finny
Try a whole lotta people with missile experience, here on FR and also callers to So Cal radio shows.

Please point out these 'whole lotta' on FR. As for a 'whole lotta people with missile experience' calling in to talk radio .... I have a brige in Brooklyn to sell you.

148 posted on 11/10/2010 2:27:03 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

look at any daytime launch photos of a solid fuel rocket. You can see the sawtooth patterns on the edges of the exhaust plume. It is different that a jet trail. That baby was smokin it to the West on a sub orbital trajectory. I have seen a lot of them go off from the Cape while I was out Fishin. Also at the end of the clip you can see the staging begin. I have seen it many times. Bolts blow off the first stage and then the second stage fires up. At that point the plume usually stops and you just see the glow because it is so high. Orbital shots go up at a steeper angle and the turn downrange.


149 posted on 11/10/2010 2:29:11 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Finny
ONE of the guys? Try a whole lotta people with missile experience, here on FR and also callers to So Cal radio shows. Not just "ONE of the guys." Many of them. Wake up, dear. If the Pentagon wants to deceive Americans by telling them it wasn't a missile, they must have their reasons, and chances are they're damned good reasons. Doesn't change the reality that an organized attempt to deceive thee and me is happening at high levels in media and government.

Your comment seem eerily similar to what I'd see on the average Truther post on some left wing site.

150 posted on 11/10/2010 2:30:52 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: aruanan

How many passenger landing strips do we have 35 miles off the coast of California for commerical heavy traffic? That’s where the trail began - the middle of the ocean.


151 posted on 11/10/2010 2:39:36 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Does beheading qualify as 'breaking my back', in the Jeffersonian sense of the expression?)
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To: Wissa
Your comment seem eerily similar to what I'd see on the average Truther post on some left wing site.

So, what does that have to do with the price of tea in China? This is a matter of common sense and using information available to you, the expertise of people experienced in aeronautics and missile science, along with first-hand experience, to gage what has happened. Apparently you think that the government will never lie to you, and your reason for thinking this is because of what lefties write on blogs.

152 posted on 11/10/2010 2:40:57 PM PST by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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To: Wissa
Your comment seem eerily similar to what I'd see on the average Truther post on some left wing site.

1. Fact: The government lies to us.

2. Fact: The government said it was a plane.

3. Fact: Some guy on the radio said it was a missile

4. In order for 1 2 and 3 to be true, it must be a missile.

Case closed.

153 posted on 11/10/2010 2:45:45 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: RinaseaofDs
How many passenger landing strips do we have 35 miles off the coast of California for commerical heavy traffic? That’s where the trail began - the middle of the ocean.

Don't get too close to the edge of the earth, you might fall off.

154 posted on 11/10/2010 2:47:03 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: JoenTX

I agree with you.


155 posted on 11/10/2010 2:47:19 PM PST by EternalVigilance (Many have been foolish enough to bet against America. In the long run, they've all lost.)
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To: Finny
This is a matter of common sense and using information available to you, the expertise of people experienced in aeronautics and missile science, along with first-hand experience, to gage what has happened.

I've seen a crapload of nonsense believed by people thinking they're using common sense and I don't sit and wait for some "expert" to tell me what to think. I look at the opposing arguments and make up my own mind.

Apparently you think that the government will never lie to you, and your reason for thinking this is because of what lefties write on blogs.

Nope. I don't implicitly trust the government. But when the evidence available to me says they're NOT lying to me in some case, I don't discount it solely on the basis that the statement is coming from the government either.

156 posted on 11/10/2010 2:51:34 PM PST by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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To: screaminsunshine
Which one is NOT the SPR?


157 posted on 11/10/2010 3:15:49 PM PST by SeeSac
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To: SeeSac

Your top shot is a SRB bound for orbit. A lower trajectory and about 45 more seconds would match the mystery shot off Catalina. The other is obviously a jet. Notice the puffs on the SRB. That is exhaust. Not contrail.


158 posted on 11/10/2010 3:24:14 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Finny

Me too I grew up in Cocoa Beach. That sucker is a missile. Not a jet. It is a sub orbital SRB. And it stages at the end of the clip.


159 posted on 11/10/2010 3:29:41 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Wissa

Have you ever seen a live shot?


160 posted on 11/10/2010 3:30:48 PM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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