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62 mpg car standard by 2025? U.S. mulls options
MSNBC ^ | October 1, 2010 | Staff

Posted on 10/01/2010 9:59:12 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Should new cars be required to get 62 mpg by 2025? That's one scenario under an Obama administration notice filed Friday for drafting mileage standards covering the period from 2017 to 2025.

The fleet of new vehicles may need to meet a standard set somewhere from a low of 47 mpg to a high of 62 mpg, the administration said in its notice of intent.

An initial assessment shows the additional costs for producing high-mileage vehicles ranges from $800 to $3,500, its notice stated, but that cost could be "higher" when a more detailed analysis is completed.

The notice added, however, that the changes would lead to "lifetime savings due to reduced fuel costs of about $5,000 to over $7,000."

The move is framed as a way of attacking climate change, reducing U.S. dependency on foreign oil and growing the economy through cleaner energy jobs.

The administration's "notice of intent" was released by the Transportation Department and the Environmental Protection Agency, laying the groundwork for a proposal to be issued next year and approved sometime in 2012...

(Excerpt) Read more at today.msnbc.msn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: automobiles; economy; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; obama; yourtaxdollarsatwork
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To: kiryandil
the Presidential Escalade fleet.

Having some involvement with those prior to retiring, I can tell you they get much less mpg than a "normal" SUV largely because of increased weight due to armoring.

22 posted on 10/01/2010 10:34:50 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: Seruzawa

My guess is that some members of Congress are just jealous they didn’t get to pass the laws of gravity.

May we could adopt Buzz Lightyear’s classic line for gas mileage efforts: “To infinity, and beyond!”


23 posted on 10/01/2010 10:38:13 AM PDT by Pecos (Liberty and Honor will not die on my watch.)
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To: Jlazoon
Of course not, because your an ignorant individual.

Pretty eloquent contribution, noob.
24 posted on 10/01/2010 10:38:14 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: chrisser

“Pretty eloquent contribution, noob.”

If only you knew.


25 posted on 10/01/2010 10:46:26 AM PDT by Jlazoon
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

looks like diesel is the answer. Plenty of Euro diesels get 60+ MPG.
Ford Fiesta diesel already gets 62 mpg, but Ford doesn’t think they can sell it here for a multitude of reasons.


26 posted on 10/01/2010 10:48:58 AM PDT by stylin19a (Never buy a putter until you first get a chance to throw it)
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To: nascarnation
... they get much less mpg than a "normal" SUV ...

Given these behemoths with their equipment and armoring, I have often wondered if they got MPG or GPM.

27 posted on 10/01/2010 10:54:53 AM PDT by SES1066 (If you don't vote in November, quit your bitchin!)
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To: Jlazoon

I’m curious. How’s your Civic do when the roads are covered in a foot of unplowed snow?


28 posted on 10/01/2010 10:58:08 AM PDT by chrisser (Starve the Monkeys!)
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To: Jlazoon; chrisser
Chrisser: “Pretty eloquent contribution, noob.”

Jlazoon: "If only you knew."

Thanks for being dumb enough to admit you are a retread. See ya in your next incarnation, we'll leave the capacitors loaded for you.

29 posted on 10/01/2010 11:04:04 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: stylin19a
Ford Fiesta diesel already gets 62 mpg, but Ford doesn’t think they can sell it here for a multitude of reasons.

I think that they look at the same facts that Honda did when they dropped their diesel plans permanently, it is very difficult to sell 50-state mass market diesels when you have the California Air Resource Board (CARB) regulations. I am actively looking and right now only VW Corp has any in their VW and Audi lines and it looks like Mazda will have a diesel next year. Beyond that, you got BMW and trucks.

30 posted on 10/01/2010 11:05:04 AM PDT by SES1066 (If you don't vote in November, quit your bitchin!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

31 posted on 10/01/2010 11:09:19 AM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If it can’t pull my Airstream trailer and haul two generators and my dog, I won’t buy it.

With my Tundra CrewMax I get about 12 mpg at best, when I am towing. On a long trip that can cost a bit, but it doesn’t bother me because I know I’m having more fun than a lib, and I know that it pi$$es them off when I pass them on the highway or camp next to them.

Then when I raise our 3 flags in a campground, it really tweaks them. Old Glory, 76 flag and the yellow Don’t Tread On Me. I can see the anguish on their faces when they walk by. I plan to add a landscaping light at the bottom of the flag poles to light up the flags at night... then I can make their skin crawl all night. LOL


32 posted on 10/01/2010 11:14:18 AM PDT by Gator113 (Beauty will devour the Beast in 2012. Kill "Obamamosque"@ Ground Zero)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Meet your new muscle car engine ....

Also comes in ecomony size...


33 posted on 10/01/2010 11:25:26 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: SVTCobra03
I have no idea what mileage my 2008 Shelby GT500 gets, nor do I care

You should care - how are you going to get your mileage lower if you don't know what it is in the first place?

My beautifully restored, 440 Magnum-powered '71 Dodge Charger 500 gets a hair over 10 MPG.

I'm confident that, as I get more comfortable driving it, I'll be able to get that down well into single digits!

34 posted on 10/01/2010 11:27:38 AM PDT by LIBERTARIAN JOE (Don't blame me - I voted for Ron Paul!)
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To: chrisser
Pretty eloquent contribution, noob.

n00b met the ZOT.

35 posted on 10/01/2010 11:49:49 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Jlazoon

36 posted on 10/01/2010 11:52:56 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Jlazoon; 50mm; Old Sarge; Darksheare; darkwing104

ZOTTED troll


37 posted on 10/01/2010 11:54:05 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Remember in November. Clean the house on Nov. 2. / Progressive is a PC word for liberal democrat.)
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To: Jlazoon

*Zot! Sparkle! Sizzle!* Troll crispies!


38 posted on 10/01/2010 11:56:11 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Jlazoon

And your hybrid cannot accelerate out of its own way.
Nor can it get out of MY way as I roar past in my 2001 VW VR6.
Your hybrid is designed for slow, flat backroads, NOT highways.
Stay off the stinking highways you snail on four wheels!


39 posted on 10/01/2010 11:58:23 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
An initial assessment shows the additional costs for producing high-mileage vehicles ranges from $800 to $3,500, its notice stated, but that cost could be "higher" when a more detailed analysis is completed.

What will the cost in lives be?

ML/NJ

40 posted on 10/01/2010 12:28:29 PM PDT by ml/nj
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