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Krauthammer: Self-Indulgence
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| Alvie D. Zane
Posted on 09/16/2010 10:02:30 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
My note: edited for this family friendly forum.
Krauthammer: Self-Indulgence
Charles Krauthammer has a few thoughts about those endorsing Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. Link here. He's going to get both barrels from me on the other side.
Link to youtube here Krauthammer: The Palin endorsement, I think, is disruptive and capricious. Bill Buckley had a rule that he always supported the most conservative candidate who was electable, otherwise the vote is simply self-indulgence.
Baier: Now Jim DeMint, from South Carolina, also endorsed Christine O'Donnell.
Krauthammer: equally capricious and irresponsible. I'm not sexist on this. It's a big mistake. …
Dear Charles:
I saw the video, heard your remarks.
Now you hear this:
No more compromise. No more equivocation. No more dilution. No more weaseling. No more pro-gun control. No more pro-abortion. No more Olympia Snowes. No more Arlen Sphincters. No more Susan Collinses. No more Larry "wide stance" Craigs. No more Duke Cunninghams. No more Bushes. No more McCains. No more Viagra Conservatives who need "help" to stay true to principle. No more empty holsters. No more negotiation. No more retreat. Not one step back!
You show me a "conservative" who can't vote down on Elena Kagan and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who can't vote down on Amnesty and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who proposes Campaign Finance Reform and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who supports Cap and Trade and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who talks principles and votes pragmatism and I'll show you self-indulgence.
Following your logic, it's clear why the GOP nominated Dede Scazzofazzo for NY-23. How did she do in that race anyway? It's clear why the entire GOP apparatus was mobilized time and again through the last few decades to support Benedict Arlen in his primary challenges in Pennsylvania. And it's also clear why the GOP has been led by Viagra conservatives in purple pimpstriped suits. They are only interested in connecting to pocketbooks and not people-and certainly not principle.
In case no one told you this Charles, the age of Bill Buckley is over. We're dealing with people who make clear with their every act that they intend to destroy America. Presumably the British should also have voted for Chamberlain over Churchill. I mean they were both from the same party and Chamberlain having been elected as Prime Minister was clearly electable while Churchill had been in a political exile. Oh, and clearly Buckley's "wisdom" must have rubbed off on his son Christopher who endorsed Obama in the last Presidential election.
Pray tell, what is your stance on the self-indulgence of people like Charlie Crist who-beaten in a primary race then reneges on his pledge to remain in the GOP and instead run for US Senate as an independent-thus splitting the vote? What about Lisa Murkowski who flirted with doing likewise to retain her birthright to the US Senate seat in Alaska? Or how about the self-indulgence of the aforementioned Benedict Arlen? (I'm still laughing about that one.)
Let's take a brief diversion to Middle Earth for a comparison and contrast of leaders:
Denethor is the steward of Gondor charged only with keeping the kingdom until the king rerturns. But he has looked too many times into the palantir (seeing stones) and seen precisely what the eye of Sauron has wanted him to see. For this reason, Denethor is defeatist in his attitude and though he sees doom coming his way, he does little to prepare for it. Denethor's end is a direct result of this defeatist end.
Theoden, king of Rohan is under the spell of Saruman and is "counseled" by Grima Wormtongue. Theoden is my favorite character in Lord of The Rings. Maybe it's the change that Theoden goes through. From a compromised, controlled leader in the palm of the enemy, he regains his strength, regains his purpose, and regains his honor. You see iron will of Theoden come through in that he will fulfill his oath, defend his people, and regain his honor at any cost. In the movie especially, you get the sense that Theoden knows what it will cost. One of his captains says to him, "We do not have the strength to defeat the armies of Mordor." "No", he agrees. Then he utters perhaps my favorite line in the entire 4,508,151,225 pages of The Lord Of The Rings. "But we shall meet them in battle nonetheless."
Denethors like Krauthammer are overcome with a defeatist attitude that victory isn't possible so we'd better settle for tactical retreats and peace in our time. It is people like this that sacrifice great for the sake of good. Oh, and just for disclosure Charles, exactly what did you see when you looked into the palantir? Seriously, what did you and HusseinO talk about in your January 2009 dinner with him and other like-minded, empty holstered, Viagra conservative pundits? Or did you think we'd forgive and forget that?
Theodens like Christie O'Donnell are willing to risk defeat in pursuit of victory. I believe that the surge of the Tea Parties in our day is similar to the last charge of the Rohirrim at the armies of Mordor assailing Minas Tirith. If the charge fails, then we're all doomed.
Deneth-sorry, Charles, what you are saying is that while you blue-blooded RINOS expect people to swallow their principles (again) to vote for your pragmatism in September, you will take your pragmatism and go home before you'll vote for their principles in November (or any other time for that matter). Well here's what I say to that:
Pretty please. I dare you wussies to do it. Please show us your true colors so that we would know your deeds and could know that you either for us or against us. I wish you bastards would show us whether you are hot or cold.
In case no one told you this Charles, had the GOP upheld their oath and did their jobs in 2001 when they controlled the White House, Senate, and House of Representatives, then we wouldn't be in this f***ing mess now. You coddle them for failing to lead and condescend to those who would have them get out of the way so that real leaders might replace them. You sir have earned a trip to the cone of shame.
I'm Alvie D. Zane and I approved this message.
TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: delaware; krauthammer; odonnell
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To: Hildy
Castle was pro abortion, anti-gun rights, pro bailout,
pro gay marriage, pro Cap and trade, pro card check and
took his agenda from Soross Center for American Progress.
Any conservative that votes for that has no brains.
Sorry, we held our nose and voted for McCain and where
did it get us?
The fault is squarely lad at the feet of the GOP.
If they did not like Christine they should have ran
some one else.
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posted on
09/17/2010 2:02:50 AM PDT
by
DaveTesla
(You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
To: Hildy
We took a sure thing and we put it in a position we will probably lose.
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Castle doesn’t represent the “we” here. Government is too big for a “tie” to be a win. We need small government conservatives in office or our country will be destroyed. Big government Republicans are part of the problem, even if they occassionally make a vote that conservatives approve of, because our deficits are so huge and the actions of the Federal government so arbitrary that our survival is at stake. The hour is that late. Just because someone is labled “Republican” doesn’t mean they will vote to reduce the size of spending . . . and if we don’t do that then riots and currency destruction is our future. Castle was at best a tie. It’s better to have a chance to win than a guaranteed loss. You aren’t seeing and feeling something that most people are right now. This isn’t party politics. The nation itself is at stake. The Republican left has been a problem, not just the Democratic party. I am not sure we make it through 2 more years of Obama safely even if we have a conservative Congress. If we have McCain’s and Castle’s populating Congress we just destroy the spirit of the resistance to big government and make it harder to persuade the “middle” that there is a difference that matters between the parties and the future for the country.
To: Hildy
Better to have a real Democrat than a RINO.
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posted on
09/17/2010 3:50:52 AM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
To: Hildy
They (including Rove) are now hurting the cause. It is destructive to put down our candidates after they have won. He needs to help get to the finish line. _They are helping make the campaign adds for the opposition.
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posted on
09/17/2010 4:34:13 AM PDT
by
opentalk
To: onyx
Castle, the certain winner had years to challenge his pal Biden for the very same seat, but instead he sat comfortably in the House, as the lone US Representative from Delaware.I assumed that Castle at 70 was simply the place holder for the return of Plugs Biden.
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posted on
09/17/2010 4:34:46 AM PDT
by
Ole Okie
To: jjsheridan5
46
posted on
09/17/2010 4:39:26 AM PDT
by
opentalk
To: jjsheridan5
47
posted on
09/17/2010 5:44:43 AM PDT
by
Cmate110
To: JMS
Well said, JMS. Liberal republicans and marxist democrats give us Conservatives a “lose-lose” agenda in perpetuity. We have come to the brink with only remnants of our once vibrant Constitutional Republic remaining. If we don’t resist this threat to our Liberty we will most certainly go over the edge; if we do resist (as many are doing now) we may still lose, but we will do so with the knowledge that we did not meekly stand by like helpless slaves to a democratic mob.
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posted on
09/17/2010 5:44:52 AM PDT
by
pogybait
(No More RINO's for us!)
To: onyx
“Christine O’Donnell was good enough for the Delaware GOP to run against Biden in 08, so all the hand-wringing and smears that have come her way during this primary ring false and inflammatory.”
Excellent point. This whole thing is very strange. I caught a bit of an interview last night on CNN with the GOP/Tea Party dude that won in NY and it was brutal. Anderson Cooper had some of his emails and was accusing him of promoting beastiality and racism(some dumb guy stuff he and his pals were emailing back and forth). I’d like to know how the media can get their hands on the emails of previously unknown private citizens and yet they have never managed to get anything of importance on Obama. We all know why, but still it’s stunning to watch. I would not be one bit surprised if Obama and his enablers in the CIA/NSA/FBI are not hacking into the emails of every republican running for congress and tapping their phones. Obama has no moral or ethical principles and neither do the people who support him. Obama makes Nixon’s transgressions look insignificant.
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posted on
09/17/2010 5:54:14 AM PDT
by
penelopesire
(NEVER FORGET!! 'You are either with us or you are with the terrorists')
To: onyx
SOrry no link was given just an email and didn’t think that was appropriate to post.
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posted on
09/17/2010 5:55:09 AM PDT
by
hoosiermama
(ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
To: Neil E. Wright
Wow, what a great post.
I like Charles, but he stepped on the crank, with old fashioned, steel tipped, golf shoes.
The old line guys, having never really worked for a living, outside of politics or courtrooms, have no real concept of the anger behind the TEA Party idea.
TEA Party folks are just plain Americans that have had enough of the lies and bullshit and refuse to sit down and shut up.
We know the truth and all of the drive bye spinning won't change facts, so we will change the congress critters, until we get ones that keep their word.
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:03:27 AM PDT
by
USS Alaska
(Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
To: penelopesire; hoosiermama; maggief; STARWISE; SE Mom; Liz
Chrsitine O’Donnell will be Chris Wallace’s guest on Fox News Sunday.
Wallace was just on Fox ‘n Friends.
I hope Charles Krauthammer is in the panel! LOL.
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:07:40 AM PDT
by
onyx
(If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
Sorry, my excitement caused a lot of typos...LOLOLOL.
I hope Charles Krauthammer will be on the panel! LOL
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:11:17 AM PDT
by
onyx
(If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
To: onyx
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:15:37 AM PDT
by
Lakeshark
(Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
To: onyx
Sounds like Must See TV. Thanks for the heads up.
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:16:55 AM PDT
by
penelopesire
(NEVER FORGET!! 'You are either with us or you are with the terrorists')
To: Lakeshark
Young Miss O’Donald for sneate from Delwhere?
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:17:08 AM PDT
by
onyx
(If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
To: penelopesire
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:17:58 AM PDT
by
onyx
(If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
To: onyx
I tink she bee olod.......
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:18:31 AM PDT
by
Lakeshark
(Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
To: onyx
That should help her. Chris will be tough, but fair....
I can hear O’Really crying from my porch!
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:19:58 AM PDT
by
hoosiermama
(ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
To: Hildy
Yes, you have to win to do anything. On the other hand, some wins aren’t worth having. Hasd castle won, we’d have had a “Republican” would be the “bipartisan” vote the Democrats need for political cover for anything they want to do.
And if one RINO crosses that line, the Maine sisters, Graham, and company might very well follow.
What a lot of the doomsayers are missing is that this is a “sea change” election coming up. The likely voters are very, very angry at Democrats and want to punish them. This is a referendum on Obama, Pelosi, and Reid, and they aren’t going to do well.
To that extent, for this one election, it matters far less that Republican challengers be “someone who can win” than that they run against the Democrats’ record. (Normally, I’m not a fan of “anybody but xxx”, but that’s the mood out there right now.) Why not go for the brass ring and purge out the “squishes” and liberals? Get some young, conservative blood in there, and preferably into DeMint’s camp?
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posted on
09/17/2010 6:22:33 AM PDT
by
kevkrom
(De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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