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Krauthammer: Self-Indulgence
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| Alvie D. Zane
Posted on 09/16/2010 10:02:30 PM PDT by Neil E. Wright
My note: edited for this family friendly forum.
Krauthammer: Self-Indulgence
Charles Krauthammer has a few thoughts about those endorsing Christine O'Donnell in Delaware. Link here. He's going to get both barrels from me on the other side.
Link to youtube here Krauthammer: The Palin endorsement, I think, is disruptive and capricious. Bill Buckley had a rule that he always supported the most conservative candidate who was electable, otherwise the vote is simply self-indulgence.
Baier: Now Jim DeMint, from South Carolina, also endorsed Christine O'Donnell.
Krauthammer: equally capricious and irresponsible. I'm not sexist on this. It's a big mistake. …
Dear Charles:
I saw the video, heard your remarks.
Now you hear this:
No more compromise. No more equivocation. No more dilution. No more weaseling. No more pro-gun control. No more pro-abortion. No more Olympia Snowes. No more Arlen Sphincters. No more Susan Collinses. No more Larry "wide stance" Craigs. No more Duke Cunninghams. No more Bushes. No more McCains. No more Viagra Conservatives who need "help" to stay true to principle. No more empty holsters. No more negotiation. No more retreat. Not one step back!
You show me a "conservative" who can't vote down on Elena Kagan and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who can't vote down on Amnesty and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who proposes Campaign Finance Reform and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who supports Cap and Trade and I'll show you self-indulgence.
You show me a "conservative" who talks principles and votes pragmatism and I'll show you self-indulgence.
Following your logic, it's clear why the GOP nominated Dede Scazzofazzo for NY-23. How did she do in that race anyway? It's clear why the entire GOP apparatus was mobilized time and again through the last few decades to support Benedict Arlen in his primary challenges in Pennsylvania. And it's also clear why the GOP has been led by Viagra conservatives in purple pimpstriped suits. They are only interested in connecting to pocketbooks and not people-and certainly not principle.
In case no one told you this Charles, the age of Bill Buckley is over. We're dealing with people who make clear with their every act that they intend to destroy America. Presumably the British should also have voted for Chamberlain over Churchill. I mean they were both from the same party and Chamberlain having been elected as Prime Minister was clearly electable while Churchill had been in a political exile. Oh, and clearly Buckley's "wisdom" must have rubbed off on his son Christopher who endorsed Obama in the last Presidential election.
Pray tell, what is your stance on the self-indulgence of people like Charlie Crist who-beaten in a primary race then reneges on his pledge to remain in the GOP and instead run for US Senate as an independent-thus splitting the vote? What about Lisa Murkowski who flirted with doing likewise to retain her birthright to the US Senate seat in Alaska? Or how about the self-indulgence of the aforementioned Benedict Arlen? (I'm still laughing about that one.)
Let's take a brief diversion to Middle Earth for a comparison and contrast of leaders:
Denethor is the steward of Gondor charged only with keeping the kingdom until the king rerturns. But he has looked too many times into the palantir (seeing stones) and seen precisely what the eye of Sauron has wanted him to see. For this reason, Denethor is defeatist in his attitude and though he sees doom coming his way, he does little to prepare for it. Denethor's end is a direct result of this defeatist end.
Theoden, king of Rohan is under the spell of Saruman and is "counseled" by Grima Wormtongue. Theoden is my favorite character in Lord of The Rings. Maybe it's the change that Theoden goes through. From a compromised, controlled leader in the palm of the enemy, he regains his strength, regains his purpose, and regains his honor. You see iron will of Theoden come through in that he will fulfill his oath, defend his people, and regain his honor at any cost. In the movie especially, you get the sense that Theoden knows what it will cost. One of his captains says to him, "We do not have the strength to defeat the armies of Mordor." "No", he agrees. Then he utters perhaps my favorite line in the entire 4,508,151,225 pages of The Lord Of The Rings. "But we shall meet them in battle nonetheless."
Denethors like Krauthammer are overcome with a defeatist attitude that victory isn't possible so we'd better settle for tactical retreats and peace in our time. It is people like this that sacrifice great for the sake of good. Oh, and just for disclosure Charles, exactly what did you see when you looked into the palantir? Seriously, what did you and HusseinO talk about in your January 2009 dinner with him and other like-minded, empty holstered, Viagra conservative pundits? Or did you think we'd forgive and forget that?
Theodens like Christie O'Donnell are willing to risk defeat in pursuit of victory. I believe that the surge of the Tea Parties in our day is similar to the last charge of the Rohirrim at the armies of Mordor assailing Minas Tirith. If the charge fails, then we're all doomed.
Deneth-sorry, Charles, what you are saying is that while you blue-blooded RINOS expect people to swallow their principles (again) to vote for your pragmatism in September, you will take your pragmatism and go home before you'll vote for their principles in November (or any other time for that matter). Well here's what I say to that:
Pretty please. I dare you wussies to do it. Please show us your true colors so that we would know your deeds and could know that you either for us or against us. I wish you bastards would show us whether you are hot or cold.
In case no one told you this Charles, had the GOP upheld their oath and did their jobs in 2001 when they controlled the White House, Senate, and House of Representatives, then we wouldn't be in this f***ing mess now. You coddle them for failing to lead and condescend to those who would have them get out of the way so that real leaders might replace them. You sir have earned a trip to the cone of shame.
I'm Alvie D. Zane and I approved this message.
TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: delaware; krauthammer; odonnell
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To: Hildy
In Arizona this year, I will vote 3rd party. Better an open enemy of FREEDOM in front of you than a traitor behind you.
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posted on
09/16/2010 10:48:57 PM PDT
by
Neil E. Wright
(An OATH is FOREVER OathKeeper III We are EVERYWHERE)
To: Hildy
Any democrap is better than a RINO that as far as i’m concerned is the same as a traitor and should be executed ie. McCain!
The commies should have kept him!
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posted on
09/16/2010 10:49:47 PM PDT
by
dalereed
To: onyx; Neil E. Wright; penelopesire; maggief; Liz; hoosiermama; DelaWhere; Fishtalk; SE Mom; ...
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posted on
09/16/2010 10:50:05 PM PDT
by
STARWISE
(The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
To: Neil E. Wright
Wow... He is an establishment Republican guru and makes his money that way... So we should take his word as gospel? Don’t think so... The world has changed while he was tweeting and it is now up to the voters...
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posted on
09/16/2010 10:50:17 PM PDT
by
Deagle
To: JMS
Exactly, he says it’s important to win and he’s doing everything he can to help her lose.
Which makes him a disingenuous douche, and the whole “they need to personally go to Delaware” thing is so idiotic and childish that it doesn’t even merit a response.
To: Truthsearcher
this snotty DC insider who helped coordinated the attack on this woman is scared and so are his buddies Rove, Kristol, and the whole vile lot. the serfs are revolting and their influence is now threatened.
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posted on
09/16/2010 10:55:46 PM PDT
by
ncalburt
(e)
To: Hildy
“I cant believe how childish you all are ... And please dont tell me it doesnt matter if it has a few RINOs...it does and youre being very disingenuous to say it doesnt.”
Actually, the “childish” attitude is to petulantly gripe about missing out (potentially) on a single Senate seat, when there is a far bigger war going on. Look at what has happened, just in the last 24 hours:
The Democrats are now officially scared, in that they see that the Tea Party movement is growing in confidence and size (Chris Matthews realized this, MoveOn now trying to figure out which incumbents to abandon, Coons crawling over to Daily Kos to solicit money — these are all signs of fear).
The Republican establishment is officially panicking, as they see that they cannot control this wildfire. O’Donnell raising over a million dollars in the time it would take the Establishment Republicans to raise a minuscule fraction of that. The paltry $50k that they gave O’Donnell is a stark reminder of how irrelevant they have become.
DeMint’s PAC is now clearly more important than the NRSC.
The New York GOP is in absolute chaos. How many Senate seats has that group given up over the years, through their ineptitude, and apathy? A heck of a lot more than one, that’s for sure.
Trading a single Senate seat (unlikely, IMO, since O’Donnell has a good chance of winning, but either way) for a changing of the guard throughout the Republican party is a no-brainer.
This O’Donnell victory has poured gasoline on a raging fire, a fire which is the most potent political force seen in generations. And you are worried that the Delaware Senate seat is not going to be held by Castle???
There is a much bigger picture here.
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:03:13 PM PDT
by
jjsheridan5
(Step 1: defeat the Republican establishment; Step 2 is impossible without finishing step 1)
To: Hildy
I am sure she will and DeMint will too.
Don’t forget Mike Castle was one of the eight Republicans to vot for Cap n Trade allowing that bill to move to the Senate - that is unforgivable and i am sure that was some kind of payback for Biden’s son to not run for the Senate seat
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:03:14 PM PDT
by
PMAS
To: Hildy; onyx
Hildy, it was not a sure thing.
Castle was not a sure thing to win the Senate seat. After all, why vote for Dem with an “R” when you can vote for the real thing?
Do you think Joe Biden would come here to DE and stump for his old pal Castle over Coons?
That is the flaw in Rove, Krauthammer’s and your argument.
This year, EVERYONE in DE is facing a pocketbook issue,and the question in the campgin is who will you trust to look at for your issues: a full blown Communist wealth distributionist like Chris Coons, or a small government fiscally responsible candidate like Christine O’Donnell.
I live here in DE and it is amazing to see the Indies and the Dems who are just waiting to vote for O’Donnell. One Dem is a friend of mine—she actually sent O’Donnell money.
That is what the Beltway pundits don’t get.
And shame on them—with 46 days until Nov. 2, every day they waste pounding on little Christine instead of going after the bad guys is throwing away the opportunity to gain what they say they are pining for— a GOP majority.
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:06:19 PM PDT
by
exit82
(Democrats are the enemy of freedom. Sarah Palin is our Esther.)
To: ncalburt
That sums it up . I might ad that Rove is brave to stand up to this woman . Although he rode the bitch seat for 8 yrs and hid from the men . He and frat boy made people like us fight his battles with the left . Charles is not a fan of palin either . An old cronie got a beat down by a girl . Unexceptable .
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:09:39 PM PDT
by
fantom
(,)
To: jjsheridan5
Perfectly stated.
It cannot be understated how much her victory has energized the entire Tea Party movement.
That’s why the establishment came down so hard trying to ensure a Castle win, it would mean they are still in charge, and I believe it would have been a huge blow to the momentum of the Tea Party, which would have hurt our chances in all the other close races like CA, NV, WI, and so forth.
But the victory has simply pushed the Tea Party movement’s profile into a another stratosphere. Now people are even more stoked than before for Nov. More people are jumping on the bandwagon (winning attracts people), everyone is talking about the Tea Party, from Fox to CNN to MSNBC to every newspaper, they’re even writing about it in the UK, Japan and Australia.
This is going to produce a lot of seats in a lot of close congressional districts and tilt some of the close senate races in our favor.
The tunnel vision of some people who missed the big picture of the movement because cannot see beyond a single senate seat in Delaware (which by the way, O’Donnell still has a chance to capture), is really unfortunate.
To: Hildy
We are all childish because we have a different position on Christine’s victory.
A victory thanks to Castle is not much different than the Scott Brown victory. A thrill for five minutes and then pain for the next five years.
America is doomed if we don’t get these professional whores the hell out of our party.
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:27:56 PM PDT
by
Carley
(For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
To: exit82; hoosiermama; STARWISE
hoosiermama posted the article to me tonight, but didn't include the link or I would have posted it, but... The Susan B. Anthony List (PRO-LIFE) ENDORSED CHRISTINE O'DONNELL!
Christine has their endorsement on her FACEBOOK PAGE
Of course, Mike Castle would have never gotten their endorsement.
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:36:15 PM PDT
by
onyx
(If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
To: onyx
Mike Castle would have never gotten their endorsement
~~~
NEVER!
What a pathetic, low class wimp he is .. to not
congratulate her or even officially concede.
Shows the character of the establishment creep.
Time for all those like him to
just GET OUTTA DA WAY!
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:40:03 PM PDT
by
STARWISE
(The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
To: onyx; All
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:44:05 PM PDT
by
STARWISE
(The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
To: STARWISE
UGH. Castle’s post-election behavior has been UGLY beyond description. And to think he’s a grown man of what age? Seventy plus!
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:51:40 PM PDT
by
onyx
(If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
To: STARWISE
I heard Rush, but I shut-off the video when her guest mentioned Landreui and Hillary.
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posted on
09/16/2010 11:55:19 PM PDT
by
onyx
(If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
To: onyx
She’s a lib, but says they’re supporting O’Donnell
and all women candidates because of the unfair
treatment of women politicians. Sound straight
up. (Check your last ping . ;)
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posted on
09/17/2010 12:00:33 AM PDT
by
STARWISE
(The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
To: hinckley buzzard
Bill Buckley. The name sounds familiar. Is that the guy whose influence was so profound on his son that he supported Obama in the last election?
To: Hildy
There is nothing inevitable about O'Donnell losing.
Castle was a total waste and if you have a Castle in the Senate, it wouldn't be worth having the majority.
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posted on
09/17/2010 1:21:14 AM PDT
by
fortheDeclaration
(When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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