Posted on 09/10/2010 4:58:50 AM PDT by seekthetruth
All those supplies are tax deductible. They need to quit whining about it.
probly a teechur.
“”I am so tired of the argument “we pay for some supplies out of my own pocket”. My goodness - that teacher gets free or greatly reduced premiums for her healthcare.
You may not be aware of this, but you can’t use a health insurance card to purchase school supplies.
Teachers don’t get to choose on compensation — low salary with generous benefits.
Tell you what - reduce my healthcare premiums that are about to skyrocket under Obamacare and I will spend $500 per year buying my own supplies. I will take that trade any day...
Okay, your wish is granted. I’ll take $5,000 (or whatever) from your salary to pay for increased benefits. Now go spend $500 for supplies. Now you’re down $5500 and the state is managing your health care cost. Congratulations! The difference between you and teachers is that you just ASKED to be paid like a socialist.””
59 posted on 09/10/2010 9:19:00 AM by Crichton
Read your comment again... He said he would spend $500 if his premiums were reduced... not increased like you are saying when you granted his wish!!! $5,000 - $500 = $4,500 in his pocket..
Allow me to add... The average salary in our school district was over $60,000 ten years ago with benefits exceeding 40% of salary. They worked a 182 day school year. If the salary and benefits were annualized using an average work year of 250 days (50 weeks X 5 days), the teachers were making ($60,000 X 1.4 /182 X 250 )= $115,385 per year. As a CPA, I audited the school financial records and issued their audit report. I also did the taxes for many of the teachers. They were overpaid then and they still are. With the current unfunded pension liability due to the defined benefit pension plans and the increased health care costs, the current benefits are even higher. You can use your small words if it helps you keeps your thoughts logical. Many years as a university professor teaching tax law and as a litigation consultant has caused me to read and listen very carefully. Even Christie’s math was off in his facts he was spouting (but it did not take away my admiration for him)
Not half as obnoxious as "Let me be clear..."
I've had to remove all throwable items from my television room.
Bravo!
In all fairness, don’t you think you should have told him you’re a CPA before you tricked him into a discussion of payroll expenses?
later read
I'd like to see him run, but I saw the Hannity segment in which he said he absolutely didn't want it.
And did you notice, he did it all without a teleprompter?
Love to see someone who can think so clearly on his feet!
I know about both of those situations, but these days the political campaign process is a far nastier, meatgrinding one than ever before. Not only are candidates targeted, but their families as well. That said, I hope Christie changes his mind at some future time.
The point is reducing premiums doesn't cost $500. Do you really think that's what the state spends on health care benefits? $500?
No.
You want those state benefits, it'll cost $5k or $10k or more and it'll come right off the top of your salary.
The state is spending an extra $5000 or $10000 (or much more) for all those benefits on top of what a private compensation plan would. So if you go from a private compensation plan where you make $50000 plus benefits to state employment, congrats, even if your total compensation package is the same you're only getting $40-$45k in salary and the rest is being spent on benefits you didn't really need. Plus you get to fund $500 in supplies out of pocket. So minimum $5500 loss.
Regarding your other point, of COURSE some teachers are overpaid, especially in a socialist state. Teacher pay varies dramatically by state and doesn't reflect performance. No one is disputing that.
He did kind of talk to her like a teacher to an unruly student.
I make mistakes, and some times write comments before I have my three cups of coffee!!! And, I am a terrible typist.... But I do try to comprehend everything I read, including rerunning the math in my head to check it. Too many years of reading tax laws!!!
At an estate tax law program for attorneys I taught near Pittsburgh, one of the attorneys came up to me and said, “I have no idea if you know what you are talking about. But the way you say it, it sure sounds like you do.” The NJ Gov speaks with that authoritative tone. I love listening to it... and he didn’t even need a teleprompter!
Wish he was as tough on the corrupt Delaware River Port Authority. So far, a huge disappointment.
An underpaid teacher is the silliest thing I ever heard, they take the job they want and they are all paid to what they agreed. No whining allowed.
The overpaid ones are why the system is broken and why they all get into the game in the first place. Never mind the life long benefits
Christie is being polite blaming the unions due to the fact that the teachers for the most part hide behind the union skirts to screw us all.
jmo
“Even Christie’s math was off in his facts he was spouting (but it did not take away my admiration for him)”
Do you mean when he said 1 Billion, minus 820 million was 280 hundred million?
If so, I caught that too, but no one else made a big deal about it, so neither did I...
You're implicitly setting up the fallacy of the false dilemma. Please don't do that. That's what that pr!ck in the hut does.
OMG, to listen to this man entirely validates my own experiences, not only in watching the budget shenanigans, but even in dealing with my kids’ own snotty teachers for so many years. Always, always talking to parents like they just KNOW IT ALL, with such a righteous tone ...so sick of these fools running our schools and sucking up all these resources — and for what? We get NOTHING from it except heads full of mush.
Time to pull a “Christie” on these liberal dolt teachers and their unions!!
“but every teacher isn’t a big bad overpaid union flack.”
Well, you and I most certainly disagree there!
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