Posted on 09/05/2010 10:56:10 AM PDT by Kaslin
In the wake of a dispute between WorldNetDaily editor Joseph Farah and conservative author Ann Coulter over her decision to headline an event sponsored by GOProud, a gay conservative organization, Farah and GOProud Chairman Christopher Barron will square off in a debate later this month at WND’s convention.
Barron told The Daily Caller that Farah challenged him to debate over whether GOProud can be considered “conservative” after Farah argued on his site that there is no place within conservatism for an organization like GOProud, a group that promotes itself as “the only national organization representing gay conservatives and their allies.” TheDC is waiting for confirmation from WND about the debate’s details.
Farah dropped Coulter from a speaking engagement at WND’s annual “Taking America Back” convention in Miami for agreeing to speak at GOProud’s “Homocon” party in New York. (Coulter later said that Farah had never actually booked her for a speech, calling him a “swine” and a “publicity whore.”)
Farah contends that groups like GOProud are trying to commit a “coup” to unroot the conservative movement with an “agenda…to take the homosexual agenda inside the conservative tent.”
Barron insists that his group is genuinely conservative and said he looks forward taking on Farah in front of a WND crowd.
“Since we announced that conservative author and columnist Ann Coulter would be headlining our Homocon 2010 in New York City, Farah has attacked GOProud, attacked Ann, and challenged our work almost every single day,” Barron said in a statement to The Daily Caller. “I look forward to standing on the stage with Mr. Farah to defend GOProud, to debunk the misinformation he has spread, and to make the case for GOProud’s conservative mission.”
Barron added that conservatism stands at a major crossroads in its acceptance of gays into the movement. A number of high profile conservatives, including Lisa De Pasquale of the Conservative Political Action Conference, Grover Norquist of Americans for Tax Reform and former General Counsel to the National Republican Senatorial Committee Craig Engle, have signed on as official sponsors of GOProud’s event.
The debate will be held on September 17 at 7:30 PM at the Doral Golf and Spa Resort in Miami, Florida.
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You TWIT! It is the SUBJECT of the thread! Did you expect to discuss roses or math?!
Let me ask you something. Why do you hate God?
Again, be careful. The site owner is a Christian conservative.
"The foundation of our national policy will be laid in the pure and immutable principles of private morality; ...the propitious smiles of Heaven can never be expected on a nation that disregards the eternal rules of order and right which Heaven itself has ordained..." George Washington, First Inaugural, April 30 1789
"Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams
"Can the liberties of a nation be sure when we remove their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people, that these liberties are a gift from God? Thomas Jefferson
"Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God." Thomas Jefferson
You want to legitimize all these other criminal and/or aberrant acts and behaviors?
Such acts have always been condemned by civilized societies, and deservedly so.
Your point about Coulter talking at the militant homosexual agenda pushing GOProud event is not accurate, for one thing. If she goes there and tells them that their legislative agenda - that I posed above on this thread - is not conservative, then fine. You think she will criticize their militant "gay" agenda after they paid her and made her the star of "Homocon"?
Homosexuals who are conservative in veiwpoint - now pay attention here - already vote for Republicans. Those homosexuals whose primary concern is the homosexual agenda, and/or who hold other leftist points of view, vote Democrat, and no fake "outreach" which is in reality pandering to their agenda, will change this fact.
These trolls are not conservative in any way, shape or form. They are either out and out leftists, or liber(al)tarians who want lower taxes and guns.
My belief in God and the universal moral principles He teaches in every religion that are the foundation of human civilization informs me that voting for conservative Republicans is service to Him.
And sometimes, Republicans who are not as conservative as I would like, so the Dem at least is defeated.
1) There are many Christians who are liberal, therefore Christianity does not equal conservatism.
2) Fighting homosexuality (and abortion) is more important to many of you than other conservative issues, therefore your religion is a higher priority than conservatism overall.
I don't think she's going to do either one. I think she's going to talk to them about all the things we have in common: wanting lower taxes, reduced government spending, a strong military, a crackdown on immigration, and drilling ANWR. And that's a good thing to do.
Homosexuals who are conservative in veiwpoint - now pay attention here - already vote for Republicans. Those homosexuals whose primary concern is the homosexual agenda, and/or who hold other leftist points of view, vote Democrat, and no fake "outreach" which is in reality pandering to their agenda, will change this fact.
Sure. But there's a third group: people who embraced leftwing politics when they were young and stupid, without understanding what it leads to. They can be reached, whether they are gay or straight.
That's great. Millions of other Christians believe that the moral principles of caring for the poor, forgiveness, compassion, and pacifism inform them that voting for Democrats is service to Him. What do you make of that?
You were bested and just have to get a dig in, right? I have a very good relationship with my brother. That fact that he flirts with diseases that will kill him is of deep concern. The homosexual lifestyle KILLS. Homosexuals don't live much longer than 50.
You don't come right out and cheer on homosexual rights. Instead you spend your time attacking those against the agenda. THAT is very telling.
What I meant was that Ann Coulter does not booze it up, take pills, sing well and soulfully, act, dance, commiserate/love gay men because of course, her own father was gay (Judy was really programmed to marry Minnelli, let’s put it that way) — so I don’t know what Coulter means.
Judy Garland liked the gays, is that what Ann Coulter means? Garland was anything but a political animal. Can’t recall her lobbying for anything but better film roles.
It’s a ridiculous moniker but if Ann Coulter did say it, it was meant to confuse and quell the opposition (and confuse Hollywood cons like me with its imprecision).
Apparently as she has said that she likes homosexuals.
Everyone has a world view; a belief system through which they view everything. There are basically two world views, one God centered and informed, and the other rejecting God. There are many gradations - some claiming belief in God are in actuality in the “rejecting God” division.
Your viewpoint is, among whatever other beliefs you hold, a hatred of God. And you are making the assumption that this hatred of God is somehow the “right” or “true” viewpoint, as though it is a clear lens through which to view reality.
Objective reality and truth exist; you are saying that the objective truth can only be known kicking God out of the picture, and I am saying objective reality and truth can only be known by leaving Him in.
One of us is right, and the other wrong.
Moreover, you can't address ANY of my points, you can't even acknowledge my stance.
Many liberals are Christians. Many churches are adamantly Democrat, particularly the African-American ones. You completely avoid this fact. You haven't dared to breathe a word about it. Why? What are you afraid of?
The fact that both you and little jeremiah both seem unable to process is that both conservative and liberal views in this country incorporate Judeo-Christian viewpoints. Therefore, Christianity is not the exclusive province of the right.
Conservatives embrace the prohibitions on lewd behavior, Liberals embrace the exhortations to be compassionate and forgiving, and care for the poor. Hey, both of those things are fine, depending on how they're handled.
But Christianity does not equal conservatism.
. The GOProud agenda is not conservative. You should read it, I posted it above.
They want to weaken the military and use it for pushing the homosexual agenda by forcing the military to allow open homosexuals. You call that wanting a strong military???
They want Big Government to spend money on "gay" owned businesses.
They want Big Government to give Social Security benefits to homosexual partners.
They want Big Government to force same sex marriage on all the states.
They want Big Government to interfere in all levels of government to push the homosexual agenda.
They do not mention in their agenda either illegal or other immigration or oil drilling. Those are merely in your fevered imagination.
Their token nod to conservative issues include a brief mention of the right to gun ownership (with no details about what they mean) and a mention to "hold the line" with unnecessary government spending; first of all "holding the line" is not enough, rolling back is what is needed, and second, the militant homosexual agenda legislative stuff they state they want will cost BIG BUCKS.
Smear?
What about that link was a smear?
It’s teh truth.
It was a ‘rally’ in SF called Queers for Palestine.
By using the term Queer, they admitted that what they are doing is abnormal, for starters.
Also, the muslims would kill them as under Sharia law homosexuals are condemned to death.
No smear there at all.
Also, as San Fran goes, so does the rest of the homosexual ‘community’.
Want to know what the gender confused are up to?
Just look at the latest fad in San Fran.
Oh, and knock it off with pushing the gay agenda on FR.
You can hang out with those ever tolerant types who toss condoms filled with HIV tainted fluid and feces at people while screaming “we’re here, we’re queer, and we’re in your face”, the rest of us will prefer more polite society and company, than you.
You don’t like the truth?
Too bad.
It's obviously the truth, or you wouldn't be so passionate about the subject.
A fair example of a knife that cuts both ways.
“Fighting homosexuality (and abortion) is more important to many of you than other conservative issues, therefore your religion is a higher priority than conservatism overall.”
Homosexuality and abortion = evil. That might be a bit hard for an atheist or someone like that who essentially has situational ethics to grasp, since morality (and law) stems from religion. But, let me spell this out: fighting homosexuality and abortion IS fighting evil. Fighting evil IS a priority. Compromising with evil is losing the fight. Having a fiscally responsible government would be excellent, but if the price is having to allow polygamy (due to allowing gay marriage), open pedophilia (to increase their numbers, homosexuals must recruit early) and the suppression of Christianity and other religions that think this is wrong (hate speech, hate crimes, etc.) then it is not worth it.
Incidentally, in my work I know a good many teenagers. Some of them have become homosexual, and in each case, it is always about getting attention. Notice I said become. They didn’t start that way.
“There are many Christians who are liberal, therefore Christianity does not equal conservatism.”
There are indeed many Christians that do not follow all of the teachings in the Bible. Many of them embrace postmodern secular beliefs instead, such as churches like Jeremiah Wright’s or those which allow gay or women clergy, because they believe this allows them to reach more people. Unfortunately if you drop the message it does no good to be the messenger. (Just like dropping socially conservative ideas to get more votes- no point in it.)
Sure. And some of those God-informed people are liberals, and some of those non-God-informed people are conservatives. Therefore Christianity does not equal conservatism, which has been my point all along.
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