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Did Turkey Bomb Kurds With Chemical Weapons in 2009?
Publius Forum ^ | 08/14/10 | Warner Todd Huston

Posted on 08/14/2010 9:39:31 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus

News is just beginning to eek out that Turkey might have used chemical weapons to kill some Kurdish activists a year ago in the Kurdish area of southeastern Turkey. If this is true it could severely complicate relations between the EU and Turkey, an applicant for EU membership.

Germany's largest magazine, Der Spiegel, is reporting that German officials have received photos of eight members of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) all of whom were killed by Turkish military forces in 2009.

A German photo fraud expert pronounced the photos authentic after assessing them since March. A forensics report confirming that the photos are of people killed by chemical agents has also been reported.

Members of German Chancellor Angela Merkel's Christian Democratic Union are demanding that Turkey answer to these accusations but Turkish officials have been for years stonewalling all attempts to get answers about the practices of the Turkish military and its campaigns against the Kurds.

Interestingly few European news sources seem very interested in discussing this story much. Israeli news outlets, though, are covering this story heavily. This is interesting because if Turkey really is using chemical weapons against its internal, political enemies this fact will cause immeasurable difficulties between the relations of members of the EU and the increasingly Islamized Turkish nation...

Read the rest at Publiusforum.com...


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: eu; europe; islam; turkey
The EU is as corrupt as any human endeavor ever was. It is a joke and a danger to liberty and democracy.
1 posted on 08/14/2010 9:39:36 AM PDT by Mobile Vulgus
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Any investigation into Turkish attacks on Kurds will broaden out fast and drag in both America and Israel. I sense an agenda here where the target is larger than Turkey.

That said, if they did use them, let’s do what we can to find the evidence and see if the ICC has any teeth when required.


2 posted on 08/14/2010 9:42:43 AM PDT by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Typical unsubstantiated, rumor mongering story one finds in the “let’s hate ourselves” Western press these days.


3 posted on 08/14/2010 10:17:43 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Party Like It's 1773....)
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To: Mobile Vulgus
One of the first things a journalist should ask is “Who says so?”

Here is this, pro-Islamic Kurds, anti-Turkey BS story:

“German experts (WHO?) have confirmed the authenticity (THIS LEADS ONE TO BELEIVE THE PHOTOS SHOWN DEMONSTRTED THE PEOPLE IN THEM WERE KILLED BY CHEMICAL WEAPONS. IN REALITY, ALL THE “EXPERT’ SAYS IS, YES, THEY ARE PHOTOGRAPHS”) of photographs that purport (WEASEL W0RD) to show PKK fighters killed by chemical weapons. The evidence puts increasing pressure (WHO SAYS SO, THE WRITERS?) on the Turkish government, which has long been suspected (BY WHOM?) of using such weapons against Kurdish rebels. German politicians (HOW MANY “POLITICIANS”, RIGHT-WING, LEFT-WING, CENTRIST?) are demanding an investigation.

It would be difficult to exceed the horror shown in the photos (THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE NEVER SEEN MY EX-WIFE AT 4:00 AM), which feature burned, maimed and scorched body parts. (WHY WOULD A VICTIM OF A CHEMICAL WEAPON ATTACK APPEAR BURNED OR SCORCHED? WHY WOULD CHEMICAL WEAPONS BLOW BODIES APART, SO AS TO CREATE “BODY PARTS”?)

The victims are scarcely even recognizable as human beings. (THEY ARE NOT SURE THEY ARE HUMAN BODY PARTS, BUT THEY CAN TELL FROM THE PHOTOS WHAT KILLED THEM?.) Turkish-Kurdish human rights activists believe the people in the photos (NOT EVEN THEIR AILLIES ARE SURE THEY WERE INVOLVED IN ANY WAY AGAINST THE TURKS, THEY “BELEIVE”) are eight members of the Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) underground movement, (DID ANYONE EVER THINK TO DO ANY FORENSIC TESTS?) who are thought to (AGAIN... SUSPICION, BUT NO WHERE NEAR FACTS OR PROOF) have been killed in September 2009.

In March, the activists (ONE SIDE OF THE DISPUTE) gave the photos to a German human rights delegation comprised of Turkey experts, journalists and politicians from the far-left Left Party, (AH HA, NOW THEY ADMIT IT WAS THE FAR-LEFT) as SPIEGEL reported at the end of July. Now Hans Baumann, a German expert on photo forgeries has confirmed the authenticity of the photos, and a forensics report released by the Hamburg University Hospital has backed the initial suspicion, (BY LOOKING AT PROTOS OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN) saying that it is highly probable that the eight Kurds died “due to the use of chemical substances.” (AN UNNAMED “FORENSIC REPORT” OF PICTURES THAT NO ONE KNOWS WHERE THEY CAME FROM, OF BODY PARTS NO ONE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT, PROVES, WITHOUT AN AUTOPSY, THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ONCE ATTACHED TO THESE BODY PARTS DIED OF A TURKISH CHEMICAL ATTACK!)

WELCOME TO CSI DUSSELDORF!

That story would get a F in Journo 101!

4 posted on 08/14/2010 10:40:55 AM PDT by MindBender26 (Party Like It's 1773....)
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To: a_Turk; Kaslin; gleeaikin; AndrewB; ColdOne; tet68; MikeNJ; stephenjohnbanker; ...
The accusations:
http://en.firatnews.com/index.php?rupel=article&nuceID=2144

Turkish columnist asking for an investigation it is my opinion will be ignored:
http://www.todayszaman.com/columnists-219037-my-biased-attitude-chemical-weapons-against-the-pkk.html

MindBender26 post shows Turkey’s response. Which Der Spiegel is protecting the names of the experts.
German confirmed the bodies were PKK fighters and it is highly likely it is a chemical attack:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,711536,00.html

Possibly the release of the chemical weapons in the area this pic taken earlier this month:


The white on the right does look like white phosphorus which could account for the burning the dark smoke looks like an HE round. Then you have what looks like splattering of a burning substance. It is a very odd explosion. What do you think 1COUNTER-MORTER-68?
found here

5 posted on 05/19/2011 12:17:23 PM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* 'I love you guys')
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To: Mobile Vulgus; FARS; All

For the paranoid among us here is a new book on bad bugs and their world impact including in war. Some nasty ones currently in Iraq and middle east.

http://www.amystewart.com/wickedbugs.html


6 posted on 05/19/2011 12:21:59 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Thanks for the info.


7 posted on 05/19/2011 12:29:32 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Amoral secular Germany and the muslim Turks have worked cooperatively at committing genocide for a hundred years at least. Numerous German and Austrian officers held important military assignments in the Ottoman Empire.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armenian_Genocide#Joint_Austrian_and_German_mission


8 posted on 05/19/2011 1:55:12 PM PDT by eleni121 ("All Along the Watchtower" Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9)
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To: Mobile Vulgus

Most governments have become that way — the EU definitely does not have the monopoly on corruption.

The books,’Animal Farm’ and ‘Lord of the Flies’ have become realities.


9 posted on 05/19/2011 3:37:09 PM PDT by 353FMG (The M1911 is mightier than the sword.)
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