Posted on 06/17/2010 3:47:13 AM PDT by jackietree
CNN’s first mention of concerns about the structural integrity of BP’s blown-out well occurred on the June 16 edition of the Situation Room with Wolf Blitzer, during an interview with a member of the government’s Flow Rate Technical Group, Professor Steven Wereley.
Blitzer described a conversation he had with an expert who said, “They’re still really concerned about the structural base of this whole operation.” “This thing could really explode,” added Blitzer, “And they’re sitting, what, on — on a billion potential barrels of oil.”
Wereley responded, “I’ve heard concerns about the structural integrity of the well.” More precisely, the structural concerns were if “the casing of the well is — is faulty at some point.”
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Good then no gas is getting into the water. Thanks.
The *other* big leak is suppose to be about 7 miles away. Better build several *domes*.
>So far this is not a high pressure well....<
Again, I have no clue, I am just trying to gather as much information as i can. I doubt that BP or this administration will tell us anything they don’t have to.
But I have heard that there was a 70,000 PSI pressure on the pipe and that it was beyond anything we can fix.
There is a lot of speculation and rumors obviously. It would be better of they were just straight up with us so we knew, but that won’t happen. meanwhile I think it best to err on the side of caution.
I think the entire subterranean floor is changing.
>Someone on the Oil Drum is saying that the pay zone is only 60 feet....
Lot’s of other reservoirs in the GOM are 300 to 400 feet....
Amount of Oil and Gas is directly related to the depth of the payzone....
No Bedrock over it either....<
As i just posted, we are hearing all kinds of stories and one does not really know what to believe at this time.
It would be best if we had a government we could trust to give us accurate information, but I am sure I am preaching to the choir on that
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I personally would take things this guy says no more seriously than anything BP reps say about the size and potential of the oil leak. I am not even sure I would take his word for it more than I would Tony Hayward’s himself-and no, I don’t think for a microsecond Hayward is an honesy guy with a halo around his head. Simmons has as much to gain from misreporting things as BP does-and unlike them, he has nothing to lose if it is discovered he misled people.
I don’t think there is much reading of opinions...less real understanding.
I pray that is crazy. I wonder what the guys over at the oil drum would say about this.
Is it this Richard Hoagland?
Richard Charles Hoagland,[1] most commonly known as Richard C. Hoagland, (born April 25, 1945) is an American author and a proponent of various conspiracy theories about NASA, lost alien civilizations on the Moon and on Mars and other related topics. Claims from his personal biography[2] and publication[3] include having been curator for a science museum in Springfield Massachusetts at age 19 in the mid-60s.[4] Hoagland does not have any scientific training.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_C._Hoagland
http://cc.bingj.com/cache.aspx?q=Richard+Hoagland&d=4593008063677608&mkt=en-US&setlang=en-US&w=3ba461ea,f2b0e364
I figure the geologist of Kuwait fame could sign an NDA and collect all the mud logs for analysis. If the results did not warrant the next step, then it stops there. Not much risk in going that far with the idea. Hopefully BP would cooperate and not worry about liability or criminal negligence re the logs, not to mention loss of revs from the well. The thing is, if there is any chance of the bubble threat being real, then there’s too much risk in not doing something to verify or to rule it out.
B.P. SHOW US THE MUDLOGS! By geologist, Chris Landau.
What are you hiding? Why are you hiding them? It is now too late.
Senator Bill Nelson of Florida is telling us that the oil is gushing up around the casing. The casing has failed. There are multiple layers of oil and gas, probably 50 in this well. If you could seal the bottom layer, in this well, the casing and cement has been blown out. You cannot seal the other 49 layers of oil and gas above this layer. Your cap is a failure that can not be closed. The more you close it, the more the oil and gas will come through the sea floor. You will never be able to shut this gushing well down. The best you can do is relieve the oil and gas pressure from this region.
You need to take the oil and gas pressure out of this area. Drill eight wells around this blowout well, positioned 1000 to 1500 feet apart.
2(two) new directional wells being drilled into this well, theoretically to be completed by August 2010, will not work to solve this Transocean-Halliburton-BP blowout well and will create a larger uncontrolled blowout disaster.
A mudlog is a schematic cross sectional drawing of the lithology (rock type) of the well that has been bored. Without looking at the mudlogs and e-logs, we are all navigating blind. They are the forensic tool that you use to discover what happened. The mudlog is your map and your compass and your guiding star.
2) How many oil and gas horizons were there in this well? There was certainly more than one. The mudlog will list the gas and oil horizons. Were there 10, 30 or 50? Which of these many horizons are we trying to seal? Are the proposed directional wells above some oil and gas horizons and below others? Why is this choice being made? Regardless, the directional wells that are being drilled, can not seal an open well or blown out well or blown out formation. Back pressure is required for drilling mud to stay in the well to keep the oil out to allow the cement to set. We need a quiet zone for the cement to set, not a “roaring river” of oil and gas. Whether you inject that cement from the top of the well or the bottom of the well, you have not changed a thing. The pressure in the well is the same everywhere. Directional wells will not work. You only create more holes with less back pressure to keep out the oil and gas. The drilling mud escapes. The cement escapes. Only new wells that do not intersect this blowout well will help drain the gas and oil pressure from this region. It is too late for this well. It can not be sealed.
3) It is a dangerous game drilling into high pressure oil and gas zones because you risk having a blowout if your mud weight is not heavy enough. If you weight up your mud with barium sulfate to a very high level, you risk BLOWING OUT THE FORMATION. What does that mean? It means you crack the rock deep underground and as the mudweight is now denser than the rock it escapes into the rock in the pore spaces and the fractures. The well empties of mud. If you have not hit high pressure oil or gas at this stage, you are lucky. If you have, the oil and gas comes flying up the well and you have a blowout, because you have no mud in the well to suppress the oil and gas. You shut down the well with the blowout preventer. If you do not have a blowout preventer, you are in trouble as we have all seen and you can only hope that the oil and gas pressure will naturally fall off with time, otherwise you have to try and put a newblowout preventerin place with oil and gas coming out as you work.
http://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?f=B-P-SHOW-US-THE-MUDLOGS—by-Chris-Landau-100610-978.html
He has some background with NASA but I don’t know much at all about him. Never heard of him before yesterday. Doesn’t matter about him, though. If that geologist comes forward and verifies the story, OK ‘cause he is credible. At that point, Hoagland’s opinion matters not.
Well, there’s some verification - good find. You should listen to the recording. It’s much better than my transcript.
http://projectavalon.net/Richard_Hoagland_Coast_to_Coast_14_June_2010.mp3
Totally whacko.
How does one form a "gas bubble" a mile under the ocean, since EVERY gas associated in any way with oil is less dense than water and immediately skyrockets to the surface? This is the same problem with Simmons' "lake of oil".....oil FLOATS on water, unless it is treated with dispersant and dissolves....but there hasn't been enough dispersant dispensed to form a lake, and the actual MEASUREMENTS on the notorious "plumes" only show 0.5ppm of hydrocarbons.
I don't know where all these flakes are coming from, but most of what they talk about simply can't happen due to the laws of physics and chemistry.
Well, it’s a mile down, so the water is about 2500 psi - a ton per square inch. The oil they ‘say’ (ie, unverified number - don’t quote me) is coming out at 10,000 psi. They were using a pump to push mud in at 30,000 psi but failed as it looks like the structural integrity of the well has failed below the well head. Ie, there’s no capping it. Only a relief well to reduce the pressure will really stop this. There is a possibility of complete structural failure of the well head where this really starts gushing and it’s pretty much a race whether or not they can get those relief wells drilled.
Thanks for the review.
I’ll try to follow that enough to see if the geologist does get interviewed and what he says by way of explaining how a gas bubble could form in contradiction to the laws of physics.
Agree. To many divergant scenarios being displayed.
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