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Clinton to Pakistan: 'Severe consequences' in case of attack
The Times of India ^ | 8 May 2010 | The Times of India

Posted on 05/08/2010 6:13:49 AM PDT by James C. Bennett

NEW YORK: The United States has warned of "severe consequences" if a successful extremist attack in America were traced back to Pakistan, US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said on Friday in an interview with CBS' "60 Minutes."

The Pakistani Taliban claimed responsibility for a failed bid to bomb New York's Times Square last Saturday. If proven, it would be the group's first act in the United States.

Pakistani-American Faisal Shahzad has been charged with driving the crude homemade bomb into Midtown Manhattan and said he acted alone, according to authorities.

But investigators have uncovered possible links to the Pakistani Taliban and a Kashmiri Islamist group.

"We've gotten more cooperation. It's been a real sea change in the commitment we have seen from the Pakistani government. We want more, we expect more," Clinton said in the interview to be aired on Sunday.

Excerpts were released on Friday. "We've made it very clear that if -- heaven-forbid -- an attack like this that we can trace back to Pakistan were to have been successful, there would be very severe consequences," she said, without elaborating.

Shahzad, 30, who was born in Pakistan and became a US citizen last year, has admitted to the failed plot and to receiving bomb-making training in a Taliban and al-Qaida stronghold in Pakistan, prosecutors said.

He has been charged with attempting to use a weapon of mass destruction and trying to kill and maim people, as well as other counts.

Shahzad is yet to appear in court as he has waived his US legal rights and is talking to investigators.

Better relationship

Tension remained high in New York after Shahzad was plucked from an Emirates airline flight he boarded on Monday night even though he had been placed on a "no fly" list.

Several blocks of Times Square were shut down again on Friday for 90 minutes to investigate a suspicious package that turned out to be a lunch cooler.

Some analysts have speculated that if the Pakistani Taliban were involved in the Times Square plot, it could be responding to US drone attacks that have killed militants hiding in Pakistan as well as civilians.

The United States, which sees Pakistan's effort against militants as crucial to its fight against the Taliban in Afghanistan, has about 200 military personnel in Pakistan, including Special Operations forces on a training mission.

"We also have a much better relationship, military to military, intelligence to intelligence, government to government than we had before," Clinton said.

"I think that there was a double game going on in the previous years, where we got a lot of lip service but very little produced."

"We've got a lot produced. We have seen the killing or capturing of a great number of the leadership of significant terrorist groups and we're going (to) continue that," she said in the interview.

US defense secretary Robert Gates said on Friday the United States was prepared to provide more assistance to Pakistan if it wanted it in the wake of the attempted Times Square bombing.

Gates said that Pakistan recently stepped up efforts to root out extremist militants.

"The Pakistanis have been doing so much more than 18 months or two years ago any of us would have expected," Gates told reporters at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. He referred to Pakistani army offensives, dating to spring 2009, against Taliban extremists in areas near the Afghan border, including in south Waziristan.

Gates said the Obama administration is sticking to its policy of offering to do as much training and other military activity inside Pakistan as the Pakistan government is willing to accept.

"It's their country," Gates said. "They remain in the driver's seat, and they have their foot on the accelerator."


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this just goes to show what a total idiot Hilly is


21 posted on 05/08/2010 6:42:39 AM PDT by Mike Acker
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To: Mike Acker
If it involves the Clintons, there's a kickback in there somewhere...
22 posted on 05/08/2010 6:47:54 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Impeachment !)
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To: Mike Acker

Yup and the Paki’s know she is an idiot and unqualified for the job. She has the job because her last name is clinton. Add to that we are dealing with a country that treats women like goats and we send an unqualified woman as a messenger. I’d bet that they laugh in her face.

Nice going dims.


23 posted on 05/08/2010 6:49:13 AM PDT by Texas resident (Outlaw fisherman)
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To: Raycpa

Shout, obama wants to deliver us to Islam and the united nations, the new army of islam.


24 posted on 05/08/2010 6:51:26 AM PDT by himno hero
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To: James C. Bennett

Nothing worst than hollow threats.


25 posted on 05/08/2010 7:02:07 AM PDT by NotSoModerate
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To: James C. Bennett

What fool would take her seriously anymore ?


26 posted on 05/08/2010 7:04:58 AM PDT by culpeper (He has erected a multitude of New Offices, and sent hither swarms of Officers to harrass our people,)
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To: NotSoModerate

Don’t worry, next time she’ll give them ultimatums. That will really make them change their thinking, decisions, attitude, and volition. Then she can start writing very stern letters. It always seemed to work for her with people who WANT to be your friends.


27 posted on 05/08/2010 7:06:22 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: James C. Bennett
"severe consequences"

Is that like "grave danger"?

28 posted on 05/08/2010 7:14:38 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi
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To: silverleaf

Obama will limit them to only 20 hours a day of CNN International. Let the quaking begin.


29 posted on 05/08/2010 7:17:22 AM PDT by Delta Dawn (The whole truth.)
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To: James C. Bennett
did she stamp her hoof as she said it???
30 posted on 05/08/2010 7:27:54 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: James C. Bennett
We've made it very clear that if -- heaven-forbid -- an attack like this that we can trace back to Pakistan were to have been successful, there would be very severe consequences

BS Clinton. No one believes you, you worn out spinster.

31 posted on 05/08/2010 8:26:46 AM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: Candor7
"severe consequences" if a successful extremist attack in America were traced back to Pakistan,...

TWO and a half words:
JAMAAT AL FUQRA.

Jamaat al Fuqra, right here, right now.

Al-Fuqra, or Jamaat al-Fuqra, is a shadowy Muslim religious cult with bases in North America and ties to Pakistan. The group was founded in 1980 by Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Jilani Hashemi. Even though Jilani lives in Lahore, Pakistan, he established al-Fuqra on a trip to the United States as a means for participants to reject the ills of modern society and strive to live in a pure Islamic community. Translated, Jamaat al-Fuqra, means "community of the impoverished".

Since the early 1980s, members have been linked to numerous small attacks, including bombings, murders, and hate crimes in several regions of the United States. The organization is reported to have more than 1,000 members living in closed compounds in rural areas of New York, California, South Carolina, Virginia, Colorado, and Canada. It is suspected that their headquarters is located in Hancock, New York. Membership is primarily composed of African-American Muslim converts. Al-Fuqra members are known for reclusive behavior and secrecy -- including the use of forged identities for travel abroad to Pakistan for religious and terrorist training. In fact, aspects of the group's behavior, particularly the use of remote compounds and extensive weapons training, is similar to that of right-wing U.S. survivalist groups.

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And the US has done NOTHING. NOTHING!!!

32 posted on 05/08/2010 11:46:02 AM PDT by MestaMachine (De inimico non loquaris sed cogites- Don't wish ill for your enemy; plan it)
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To: MestaMachine
AND THAT ICES THE CAKE ON THE HUTAREE DUDES!

Obama is nookin for nub in all the wong pwaces , LOL.

And it is NOT by accident.Be nice if CNN pointed that out on its nightly news program. Buahahahahahahaha!

Things are going to start heating up now, the pace of these attacks will increase.

You are so exactly right!

33 posted on 05/08/2010 11:53:41 AM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Facist Junta (Member NRA))
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To: Candor7; pandoraou812
Hillary constantly proves to me that she is truly an idiot. From this report it appears that she is trying to play both good cop and bad cop. Assuming it's a good idea to do that with Pockeystawn (and I only assume that hypothetically) it doesn't work for one person to play both roles. It merely conveys the unmistakable message that the whole thing is a charade. So this is a bluff so thinly disguised that even a caveman, like a Pockeystawni, can see through it.

There is no intelligent strategy in bluffing serious threats to a nuclear armed country that you are trying to coax cooperation from and is in serious internal turmoil. Best case you just insult the hell out of them and they reduce cooperation. Worst case you drive them to accede to the radical elements and unite in their opposition to us. That loses the entire Af/Pak campaign for us overnight.

Our country is dotted with Muslim Militia compounds, The al Furqua ones alone over the last 8 years have trained gunmen on their shooting ranges, and trained teams on how to assault bunkers.THE FBI DID NOTHING......NOW THOSE MEN ARE ALL GONE! TO..........Yemen and Pakistan.

That really underscores the amazing depths of hypocrisy and cynicism of Barr0's administration. He has his toadies in the MSM and elsewhere wailing and gnashing their teeth about the poor downtrodden Shazad being able to buy a 9mm carbine. Meanwhile residents near Islamberg NY and other al Furqua compounds get nothing but a brush off when they complain about constant automatic weapons fire and explosives going off and the hostile attitude of these resident jihadis towards the locals.

People wonder why Major Hasan's colleagues didn't report his radical activities. Obviously they were well aware of which way the wind is blowing and knew they would become the focus of career ending investigations if they said anything. What could make that clearer than that General's statement after the Ft. Hood massacre that the worst thing about it would be a loss of "duh-versi-tea."

Then we have Barry0 stirring the pot with the other hand with his race-baiting in the illegal alien/borders issue. Which is only the latest of his constant attempts to foment distrust of and violence towards anyone who in any way opposes his socialist policies. Barry0 is working up social unrest from both directions. He is trying to ignite multiple brush fires which will result in confusion that can be easily manipulated.

Jihadi attack in Times Square? - Could have been a right-winger. No, wait, he was driven to it by right-wingers.

Violence at hispanic communist rallies? - Caused by right-wingers.

34 posted on 05/08/2010 1:28:50 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: James C. Bennett

Why does it matter if an attack succeeds or not? I’m not going to forgive someone who shoots at me just because he misses!


35 posted on 05/08/2010 1:34:47 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: TigersEye

I have a feeling that there are no right wingers.

Only patriot wingers.

Obama is going to make one or two very bad mistakes soon.

And when he does? Check mate.

HOLDER is a goner. He has a trunk full of very, very bad mistakes.


36 posted on 05/08/2010 4:47:57 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Facist Junta (Member NRA))
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To: Candor7
I have a feeling that there are no right wingers. Only patriot wingers.

He does seem to attack a broad swath of Americans that goes well beyond any description as simply "right-wing."

0bama the "Uniter" ...

Obama To Supporters: "Argue With Friend and Neighbors Get In Their Face!" video

Obama Mocks Fox, "Teabaggers" video

Obama Mocks Republican 'Armageddon' Rhetoric (Again) video

Obama: Police Acted 'stupidly' in Scholar Arrest video

Obama On GOP Running On Repeal: 'Go For It' video

NRA: Barack Obama - "bitter gun owners" video

Obama, during his private pep talk to Democrats, ... asked, “Does anybody think that the teabag, anti-government people are going to support them if they bring down health care? All it will do is confuse and dispirit” Democratic voters “and it will encourage the extremists.” - Nov. 7, 2009

A President who mocks and taunts Americans, who incites his followers to be confrontational, is troublesome.

37 posted on 05/08/2010 4:54:09 PM PDT by TigersEye (0basma's father was a British subject. He can't be a "natural-born" citizen.)
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To: TigersEye
A President who mocks and taunts Americans, who incites his followers to be confrontational, is troublesome.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

The whole country will soon know:

Obama is conducting political warfare against all Americans.

It will not ne long now.

38 posted on 05/08/2010 5:10:16 PM PDT by Candor7 (Now's the time to ante up against the Obama Facist Junta (Member NRA))
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To: James C. Bennett

Brilliant. Pakistan is safe due to dumb luck, stupid bomber and an alert citizen.

Wait till Americans are dead and then respond. Back to pre 9/11. Pre-emption is no more.


39 posted on 05/08/2010 7:29:40 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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To: Jim Noble

exactly.


40 posted on 05/08/2010 7:33:20 PM PDT by dervish (I never saw a wild thing sorry for itself)
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