Posted on 04/29/2010 4:25:14 AM PDT by RightSideNews
It's a sad fact of history -- one language always means greater stability. New languages always decrease stability. It's important to study the concept of balkanization before considering statehood.
It would be wrong to demand that Puerto Rico speak English.
“The real Puerto Rico is 99% if not 100% CHRISTIAN.”
I’m glad to hear that. I admit, I haven’t had time to debate this. That’s the point, isn’t it? Surprise opposition with a legislation blitz if you don’t want the voters to know what’s going on.
In fact, she said, many Latinos who embrace Islam feel that they are reclaiming their Islamic heritage, not rejecting Latino culture.
“Latino people,” she said, “have a legacy of Islam in Spain.”
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What a bunch of lies and misinformation.
This woman is living in her own nutty world.
"Why should I trust "Republicans" who label themselves as "progressive" and align themselves with Democrats?" - There's something lost in translation here. In Spanish, it is the Partido Nuevo Progresista. Not Partido Nuevo . That is, "For Progress", not "Progressive".
When that party was founded un the late sixties, early seventies, the island was stuck under the weight of the new ruling class, and there was no progress. The ruling class consisted of those who today oppose statehood for Puerto Rico. After they established their "commonwealth" and settled into their new found power, they became the government of the new oligarchy, by the oligarchy, and for the oligarchy. The New Progresist Party was founded to fight them.
‘“Latino people,” she said, “have a legacy of Islam in Spain.” What a bunch of lies and misinformation.’
Amen to that. Queen Isabella was not exactly a muslim.
CHALLENGE
OK, you are the authority on this. You clearly have been preparing for this debate. So, please show me polls that reveal how anti-leftist Puerto Rico is. If you can do that, I will embrace Puerto Rico statehood. I love nothing better than informed voters.
Bad news if they do it!
I’m really not informed about this concept. God bless all freedom loving nations. CLL, on the other hand, is informed.
If cll can show compelling evidence that Puerto Rico is anti-leftist, I will embrace statehood. I like informed voters.
I was a manager at a workshop for the disabled a few years ago and supervised a janitor who was from PR. One of the many liberal teachers there wanted to drive him to the polls and help him vote Democrat. He told me that he told her he was not voting for the Democrat and did not like his views on many issues. He was voting for Jeb Bush.
The Democrats would not be pulling his if they thought it would produce another Red State.
“So, please show me polls that reveal how anti-leftist Puerto Rico is”
I don’t know of any polls on this but I will tell you this. As fellow Freeper AuH2Orepublican explains, as a state, Puerto Rican voters would resemble Lousiana voters: Mostly Catholics and conservative in social issues such as abortiaon, marriage, gays, etc., liberal leaning in some economic issues such as welfare, pro-military (there are close to 200,000 LIVING veterans on the island (and many more deceased with survivors), and prone to graft.
I’ll look up paperwork to back this up.
It’s good debating with you and that’s why we’re here.
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This is a concise and excellent publication on the issue and I higly recommend it. It’s the most level headed analysis on the Puerto Rico question I have ever read.
http://csis.org/publication/puerto-ricos-future
Highlights:
A Time to Decide
By Dick Thornburgh
Contributors George H.W. Bush
Mar 26, 2007
Four million U.S. citizens live under the U.S. flag in Puerto Rico, yet they can neither vote for president nor have voting representation in Congress, which enacts the federal laws under which they live. Residents of Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories are deprived of basic rights of self-determination that U.S. citizens generally enjoy and that the United States has committed itself to achieving for peoples around the globe.
This volume provides a comprehensive historical and constitutional framework for addressing increasingly serious issues of national policy concerning the political status and federal governance of Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories. Political gridlock in Congress and in Puerto Rico has stymied efforts to put Puerto Rico on a path toward a permanent political status that ensures full self-government for its residents. If Congress does not act soon, U.S. courts may be asked to give more serious consideration to whether the residents of Puerto Rico and other U.S. territories have political and human rights under U.S. and international law that can no longer be ignored by the political branches of government.
Dick Thornburgh is a former attorney general of the United States, a former governor of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, and a former undersecretary general of the United Nations. He currently serves as counsel to Kirkpatrick & Lockhart Preston Gates Ellis LLP in Washington, D.C.
That doesn’t surprise me a bit.
The Puerto Rican people I’ve met in my life are very proud people (which is why I said they reminded me of Cubans). They have a history all their own, also like Cubans.
The libs are really rolling the dice on this one, if they predict this outcome to be good for their side. If they are confusing Puerto Ricans with illegals from Mexico, they’re making a mistake.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I can’t picture the people of PR allowing themselves to be pushed around, like those of us on the mainland are pushed around by this aggresive gov’t.
I think that it was Frank Luntz that conducted a poll in PR a few years ago that showed that a majority was conservative on every social issue except for capital punishment.
The challenge is that voters in PR vote members of the pro-statehood and pro-Commonwealth parties, so the Republican and Democrat brands would have the ability to sell themselves to voters without much baggage. If voters decide on the issues, I’m confident that they’ll choose thre GOP.
I think that it was Frank Luntz that conducted a poll in PR a few years ago that showed that a majority was conservative on every social issue except for capital punishment.
The challenge is that voters in PR vote members of the pro-statehood and pro-Commonwealth parties, so the Republican and Democrat brands would have the ability to sell themselves to voters without much baggage. If voters decide on the issues, I’m confident that they’ll choose thre GOP.
“It’s good debating with you and that’s why we’re here.”
I agree. And debate requires time and preparation, unlike this bum-rush bill.
Here was a problem we had that’s been in the back of my mind:
Puerto Rico was incredibly hostile toward the US military regarding the Viaques Training Range:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/report/crs/RS20458.pdf
Even Bill Clinton became frustrated, and he was a diplomatic pushover. The opposition grew even more intense when a republican was president.
Do a search on “Vieques” here in FR, and you’ll find many examples of other communities across the USA where they’ve had not-in-my-backyard issues with the military as well.
http://www.freerepublic.com/tag/vieques/index?tab=articles
More facts about Puerto Rico:
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/rq.html
Ethnic Groups:
White (mostly Spanish origin) 76.2%, black 6.9%, Asian 0.3%, Amerindian 0.2%, mixed 4.4%, other 12% (2007)
Religions:
Roman Catholic 85%, Protestant and other 15%
Languages:
Spanish, English
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