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Where Were You When the Republic Died?
American Thinker ^ | 03/22/10 | Matt Patterson

Posted on 03/21/2010 10:48:23 PM PDT by American Dream 246

In November 2008, Americans elected a socialist as their president. In March 2010, they woke up stunned to find themselves living in a socialist country.

Health insurers - once private companies - are now organs of the federal government. Every citizen is a ward of the state, which can now compel you to have insurance; punish you if you don't; determine if your insurance is acceptable; punish you if it isn't. Thousands of new federal bureaucrats will soon spill from the D.C. Beltway and flood the country, scrutinizing our finances to verify compliance with this new law.

A government that grants itself this kind of power over us can conceivably do anything to us. For our own good, of course. Such a country is in no meaningful sense "free."

And this is only the beginning. Liberals are salivating in contemplation of all the fanciful window trimmings that can in the future be hung from this legislative framework. Public option will soon appear as prelude to single payer, as was the intent all along. Soon, Americans won't even have the illusion of a choice - the government will move from subsidizer to provider, and it will be the only game in town.

So what's next? Some look to the states as possible saviors. Please. The states long ago surrendered their sovereignty, and are now junkies on federal monies, which they need for schools, roads, Medicaid, and much else. If the citizens are now wards of the federal government, the states long since preceded them in that sorry servitude.

The individual? What are we going to do, not pay the taxes to support this beast? Oh, they'll take that from you before you ever get your check; we gave them that power to them long ago, remember. March on Washington, en masse? Lot of good that's done thus far.

The Republicans? Assuming the GOP can take back both houses of Congress and the White House in the next couple of elections (by no means a sure thing), can you name one gigantic entitlement enacted by liberals that Republicans have successfully repealed? Or even made serious effort to repeal? Ever? Anyone?

The Courts? Sure, maybe Obamacare will work its way through the courts, and maybe the Supreme Court will finally take up the case (there is no guarantee of that, remember), and maybe the Court will not have tilted left by then, and maybe the Justices will declare it unconstitutional. Then what? Who will enforce this decision? Obamacare is already unconstitutional on its face, and yet is the law of the land. Do you think the Democrats will say, "Oh, all-right, never-mind," and cheerfully strike it from the books after their successful five-decade long crusade?

And even if a court challenge is eventually successful, how much of the bureaucracy will by then already be in place, how many of the thousands of new regulations already in effect, how much of the billions in new taxes and fines collected, how many jobs killed, how many middle class families addicted to the entitlement?

There's a reason Democrats were desperate to ram this through at all cost - once enacted, such things are all but perpetual. Former freedom-loving peoples begin to tell themselves it's really not so bad. Sure, government is forcing you to eat state-approved gruel, but hey, at least they hold the spoon, and they even pour a little sugar on top when you're good.

The worst part of watching the proceedings unfold on Sunday was the endless stream of commentators and pundits calmly discussing this bill as if it were just one more piece of bad legislation we will have to live under. In fact, what has transpired is nothing less than an overthrow of the old Constitutional order.

In 1776, the American Republic boldly announced its birth with the Declaration of Independence. In 2010, it quietly expired with a declaration of dependence - on government, on entitlement, and on the Democratic party.


TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: fascism; military; obama; obamacare
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To: American Dream 246; All
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B. Max wrote: I don't think this is over by a long shot. More likely it's just beginning. It's possible the tea party movement could grow into state secession movements. Something is going to happen, that's for sure.

Correct- this is just the opening act of "an army of Davids" forming a resistance...



It Begins at last: OpEd: Impeach the President?[ 1, 2

101 posted on 03/22/2010 1:03:44 AM PDT by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: factmart

“The civil war is over, Jonnyreb, get a Life!”

Say it to his face.


102 posted on 03/22/2010 1:07:48 AM PDT by ripley
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To: backhoe
Been a while since I have seen you on the forum. You may not recognise this screen name. I was wirestripper. The two are merged so I get pings on both as coldheat.
103 posted on 03/22/2010 1:08:58 AM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: American Dream 246

They can no longer call me a “cheat” when I refuse to give them my labor.

They can no longer call me “coward” when I refuse to fight for them.

The left will create what they have always created: every man for himself, the opposite of what they claim to advocate.

I believe that each of us should work in our personal lives to make certain that the burden of these “changes”, this tyranny, falls heaviest on those that supported it. Save the innocent whenever you can.


104 posted on 03/22/2010 1:14:15 AM PDT by Boucheau
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To: ripley

obama is president now, it’s not 1864,master.


105 posted on 03/22/2010 1:15:40 AM PDT by factmart
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To: factmart

“Obama is president now, it’s not 1864, master.”

Go ahead. Beat around the bush, don’t say what you mean and hide behind someone else’s skirts.

IMHO


106 posted on 03/22/2010 1:27:33 AM PDT by ripley
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To: Cold Heat
Been a while since I have seen you on the forum. You may not recognize this screen name. I was wirestripper. The two are merged so I get pings on both as coldheat.

I remember you- good to see you.

107 posted on 03/22/2010 2:36:27 AM PDT by backhoe (All Across America, the Lights are being relit again...)
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To: April Lexington

Living in Michigan with Granholm, Stupak, Levin, McManus, and Conyers doesn’t inspire me to want to fly my state flag.

So, hoisting the Gadsden.


108 posted on 03/22/2010 3:22:51 AM PDT by gigster
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To: DannyTN
So Obama loves the free market except for 33% of the economy.

So far.

109 posted on 03/22/2010 3:27:13 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (Dear Leader: you have two ears and one mouth. Start using them in proportion.)
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To: factmart
The principle, on which the war was waged by the North, was simply this: That men may rightfully be compelled to submit to, and support, a government that they do not want; and that resistance, on their part, makes them traitors and criminals. No principle, that is possible to be named, can be more self-evidently false than this; or more self-evidently fatal to all political freedom. Yet it triumphed in the field, and is now assumed to be established. If it really be established, the number of slaves, instead of having been diminished by the war, has been greatly increased; for a man, thus subjected to a government that he does not want, is a slave. And there is no difference, in principle --- but only in degree --- between political and chattel slavery. The former, no less than the latter, denies a man's ownership of himself and the products of his labor; and asserts that other men may own him, and dispose of him and his property, for their uses, and at their pleasure.

     -- Lysander Spooner

110 posted on 03/22/2010 5:06:18 AM PDT by central_va ( http://www.15thvirginia.org)
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To: American Dream 246

Welcome to the USSA, comrade.

Really, you will hardly notice that collar and chain after a while.


111 posted on 03/22/2010 5:23:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Safrguns

Hasn’t died yet... SCOTUS has the last word.

No... The collective body of the people have the last word.

Always have always will.

W


112 posted on 03/22/2010 5:24:10 AM PDT by WLR (Remember 911 Remember 91 Iran delinda est.)
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To: Patrick1
The Constitution gives us one last resort. A Consitutional Convention.

A terrible idea. A c/c would be run by Congress (the rats), ACORN and SEIU.

We would wind up with a new constitution similar to the USSR's, and no BOR.

113 posted on 03/22/2010 5:25:03 AM PDT by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: Travis McGee

Sure we’d have a Bill of Rights - The Right to Free Food, The Right to Free Housing, The Right to Free Health Care, The Right to Free Public Transportation, The Right to Freedom From Gun Violence, and so on.

I believe you wrote about it yourself once upon a time.


114 posted on 03/22/2010 5:42:59 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Safrguns

No, they DO NOT!!!! We are NOT a crypto moslem country, with the constitution for a koran and congressmen OR USSC justices as imans. Many of us believe the constitution only lists-describes-the rights that are inherently ours, by virtue of being human. It does not “give” us rights, nor are we dependent for our rights on what congress does or the USSC rules. If enough people regard this bill (especially the mandate) as an egregious trampling on those rights, and this leads to massive civil disobedience (or more “extreme” acts of resistance....) then this bill will die, just as did prohibition. Ultimately, the American people have the last word-PERIOD. Will they resist? That’s the question, and let’s hope the USSC rules properly, so we don’t have to find out...


115 posted on 03/22/2010 6:25:04 AM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital-MARTIAL! This has been a spelling PSA.)
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To: kaylar

I do remember saying that SCOTUS has the last word... and under our constitution, that is correct.

I do not however regard that as the last option.

In as far as the people are concerned, our fate is in God’s hands.


116 posted on 03/22/2010 6:34:15 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Safrguns

True...and let us hope that the USSC has the sense to realize that it would be unwise to force Americans to turn in desperation to their last options. If the USSC has members twisted enough to look to the precedents set by FOREIGN courts, then one would hope the massive outcry against this bill and its overwhelming unpopularity might figure into their decision making just a *little*.


117 posted on 03/22/2010 6:37:09 AM PDT by kaylar (It's MARTIAL law. Not marshal(l) or marital-MARTIAL! This has been a spelling PSA.)
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To: Global2010

The only real question I have is why, in a building full of Freepers, all supposedly with a keen insight into the human soul, is Global2010 the only one that gets the creeps from me?

Good morning to you, LOL!


118 posted on 03/22/2010 7:01:11 AM PDT by Dexter Morgan (Everyone hides who they are.)
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To: American Dream 246

An apeaser is one who feeds a crocodile hoping it will eat him last.

Diplomacy is saying, “Nice doggie..” until you can pick up a big stick.

I believe both of those were from Will Rogers.


119 posted on 03/22/2010 7:08:31 AM PDT by rfreedom4u (Should I fly my flag at half staff now?)
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To: factmart

Cat got your tongue? Don’t want to use the word racist, or make blanket accusations about Republicans being nazis?

Don’t want to say what you mean? Still want to hide behind the president’s skirts?

IMHO


120 posted on 03/22/2010 7:12:04 AM PDT by ripley
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