Posted on 03/10/2010 8:12:29 AM PST by eeevil conservative
Hey, Eeevil! Thanks for including me. Unfortunately, I don’t have much on this subject. I have myself just begun to learn about the wool-pulling that went on in those days and the long term effects it has had on our republic.
Related to school reports-my daughter had to do a report on “who shot JFK.” She thoroughly enjoyed the research side of this project and formulated her conclusions which did not match the government story, and her teacher gave her an A! This project has really increased her desire to understand government. During this time I became interested in a book “1960-LBJ vs. JFK vs. NIXON” by David Pietrusza. Eleanor Roosevelt played a big part in how votes went in the democratic party at that time. What she said carried serious weight.
Your daughter will love the work of this project and your teacher will be entertained and that almost always leads to a good grade! Have fun and don’t hold back!
Seriously?
Are you a liberal troll?
I’m not even a parent yet, and you can bet the country going to **** that I will be engaged with my child(ren)’s education as this person is. I should never rely upon the state run schools to provide an unbiased and fair assesment of the history of this country, especially when I at an age of late 20s know how poorly educated on the history of just the USA, I am. That is, until I have taken it upon myself to give myself the education that I lacked from my childhood years.
Did you ping LS, sure he can help.
Murray Rothbard “The Great Depression”; Paul Johnson “A History of the American People”; Thomas Woods Jr. “20 Questions you’re not supposed to ask about American History”. You can get these on amazon.com
Also, check on the Heritage Foundation website. That’s a great resource.
Shlaes also traces the mounting agony of the New Dealers themselves as they discovered their errors. She shows how both Presidents Hoover and Roosevelt failed to understand the prosperity of the 1920s and heaped massive burdens on the country that more than offset the benefit of New Deal programs. She argues that the real question about the Depression is not whether Roosevelt ended it with World War II, but why the Depression lasted so long. From 1929 to 1940, federal intervention helped to make the Depression great – in part by forgetting the men and women who sought to help one another.
http://www.heritage.org/press/events/ev060607a.cfm
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Date: June 6, 2007
Time: 12:00 noon
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Bridgett G. Wagner
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The Heritage Foundation
I don’t know how much a fifth-grader might get from these books, but I recommend for general enlightenment “The Roosevelt Myth,” by John T. Flynn, publ by Fox & Wilkes, SFran, 5th ed. 1998, first publ 1948; and also the biography of the late Rep. Hamilton Fish (Can’t remember the title, and am unable to find it on my bookshelves right now), but this book especially reveals names of Soviet fellow travellers and Communists closely associated with FDR as advisors & possibly even cabinet mbrs.
So you feel he shouldn't care that his daughter and fellow students are being programed? I cared enough to home school and have never regretted it. It will be people like my daughter that will make a difference in the world instead of the public school robots lapping up the socialist gruel. Most kids today couldn't name 2 founders and what century the revolution started. They don't even know we are a capitalist country and why socialism doesn't work. Public school started when towns folk wanted their children to read the Bible to understand the foundations of the country. The first schools were generally in the town church and the first text books were Bibles. Compare that with what we have today. It has become an example of what happens when parents are left out of the picture.
Parents MUST care what is taught to their children and they should care what is taught to every child.
If it’s her book report, why are you determined to not just teach your daughter and her fellow students, but even the teachers? Why not just let her do a normal 5th grade report?
E, I think you may be remembering the man FDR referred to as “Uncle Joe” Stalin.
Here is a book from Amazon that may be of help:
http://www.amazon.com/Dear-Mr-Stalin-Correspondence-Roosevelt/dp/0300125925/ref=pd_rhf_shvl_1
Had he been successful, Emperor Hirohito would have been making the Day of Infamy speach.
IOW, he was supplying arms to combatants in direct violation of US Neutrality laws.
See the history of the 2nd AVG
In the fall of 1941, the 2nd American Volunteer Group was equipped with 33 Lockheed Hudson (A-28) and 33 Douglas DB-7 (A-20) bombers originally built for Britain but acquired by the U.S. Army as part of the Lend-Lease program passed earlier in the year.
The Central Aircraft Manufacturing Company, fronting for the Chinese and American governments, recruited 82 pilots and 359 ground crewmen from the U.S. Army in the fall of 1941, and an undetermined number, including one pilot, actually sailed for Asia aboard Noordam and Bloemfontein of the Java-Pacific line.
Other pilots reported to San Francisco, and were scheduled to depart aboard the Lockheed Hudsons on December 10. The Douglas DB-7s, meanwhile, were to have gone by freighter to Africa, where they would be assembled and ferried to China.
However, the attack on Pearl Harbor caused the program to be aborted. The vessels at sea were diverted to Australia, the aircraft were taken back into American service, and most or all of the personnel likewise rejoined the military, either in Australia or in the U.S.
IF there had been no A/C production delays, the bombers would have hit Hiroshima and Nagasaki (fleet bases) prior to the 'formal' outbreak of hostilities. This attack from China on Japan would have justified an attack on PH...and changed the entire tenor of WWII.
I have no doubt that we will continue to learn more about FDR as time goes by, and more is unclassified.....
Just looking at your tag line—how do you know things aren’t different?
Regarding your comment, Eeevil is a responsible parent. I know seeing a responsible parent up close might look foreign to some...but for those of us who are members of that endangered group, we believe that WE are our children’s teachers and that the public school system is a poor second we must suffer through. Oh, and we teach our children that too, with respect, of course! It is called freedom. We were given the right to it from God.
My opinion -worthless basically- public school teachers receive two skills when they train to teach: 1) they learn to follow rules and schedules without question, and 2) how to make lesson plans that prepare students to pass state exams so they can keep their jobs and money. Independent thinking is not promoted or desired. The best teachers are the old teachers who don’t buy all this mess anymore. But then they retire and our children lose their best years. Sad, really.
The "East Wind Rain" message would mean Japan declares war on US. The Japanese Diplomats in DC were to deliver this msg at 10AM Dec 6th so the Pearl Harbor attack would be properly declared. The diplomats were late, (although FDR already was advised) and the attack would be "A Sneak Attack!"
Watch the movie Tora Tora and you'll see how the message to Pearl Harbour didn't get there in time to warn the military. The Commander at Pearl harbour would be court martialed although this would be expunged when this came out after WWII.
The same code breaking ability would allow the US to beat back the Japanese at Midway and prevent the next step in the Japanese War Plan which was tthe invasion of California!
Good old target “AF” and that broken water condenser, gotta love it.
Been here 7 years. Apparently I haven't been enough of a troll yet to be banned.
I’m not even a parent yet, and you can bet the country going to **** that I will be engaged with my child(ren)’s education as this person is. I should never rely upon the state run schools to provide an unbiased and fair assesment of the history of this country,
It's 5th grade. I don't have a problem with this guy guiding his daughter to learn the conservative viewpoint on FDR and encouraging her to include such material in her report (although obviously most of the books suggested here are not at the right level). But it sounds like he wants to use his daughter to fight a political battle. It's like those parents that get overly involved in their kids sports and have to be ejected from the field. At some point you just have to lighten up and let your kid do their own work.
Different than what? The way things actually are?
I just think a 5th grader should produce 5th grade work, not their parents work. The child is supposed to be responsible for his/her own work.
thanks.....I was just a little amazed to see that post from a FREEPER....and I was not going to entertain the demented comment with a response....thank you for taking the torch on that one....
As a parent it is my job to control her education, for one.
Not the GOVERNMENT’S JOB!
For two— how easy and lazy it would be to not challenge her to learn and share something different from the other 4 kids in the class doing their report on FDR....
How do YOU know that the way things are is not a different way then what could have been? Just askin’? The mind of God is far more complex than our time constrained understanding. Time for us is a straight line, not for God. What is suppose to be is that one day time as we know it will end. That is a sure thing.
5th graders can do their own work while receiving proper guidance from their parents. It is wrong to teach your children “just go along to get along.” Jesus didn’t even do that!
Quoting you, “the child is suppose to be responsible for his/her own work.” What does “responsible” mean? Who teaches that type of value? Parents teach it—one way or the other, like it or not. If a parent is to teach “being responsible for his or her own work” shouldn’t the parent help the child learn how to do that? (proper research techniques, seeing more than one side of an issue, interpretation, word recognition and understanding, higher level thinking...)Yes, the child will learn, the children who hear the child’s report will learn, and the teacher will learn. Learning happens when attention is given to the process not when needless facts are poured into a blank mind and then forced to be regurgitated at appropriate moments.
Because I am not lazy.... besides, this might come as a shock, but she loves history...she loves teaching her classmates things they not only don’t know, but things they have learned WRONG...
For instance she can tell you that the first person to ever hold the title “President of the United States” was NOT George Washington....she can tell you it was John Hanson and that he was the actual 3rd President to serve, but the first to hold the title “President of the United States” and his full title was President of the United States Congress Assembled.
She has also taught her class that the Declaration of Independence was NOT signed on the 4th of July- she can tell you that Independence was voted on for the Second time on July fourth and that there were 86 changes made to the Declaration from the first vote to the second....
not too bad for a 5th grader...
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