Posted on 03/09/2010 4:12:43 AM PST by 1234
TWO DIFFERENT DLN NUMBERS AND DATE STAMP INCONSISTENT WITH CONTEMPORANEOUS SS REGISTRATIONS
According to The Sonoran News, when two people requested Obama’s Selective Service registration through the Freedom of Information Act, each received a computer printout with different information.
In a televised interview with George Stephanopoulos on September 7, 2008, Obama stated, “I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school…in 1979.” However, the requirement to register with the Selective Service had been suspended in 1975 and was not reinstated until 1980....
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The big deal, if there is one, is the possiblity that 0bama’s SS card is forged or otherwise illegitimate.
Enters first grade ... Jan. 1968
I was born August 1961. Graduated High School May 1979 (3 months shy of 18 years old.) Registered with Selective Service August 1979 after my 18th birthday as required.
So... if he said he had done it in 79 but in fact he registered in 1980... this matters to you for some reason?
It's only a "non-issue" if you believe there is no question this is his handwriting.
IIUC, registering with selective service wasn’t in effect in 1979, but in 1980.
Heck, they made me do it twice. Once in HS and again when I left the military. I’ll bet those records are available.
“This is baloney. My son was born 6-19-61, about 4 months earlier than BO. He registered on his birthday in 1979, — taking time off his summer job to do so.”
You are mistaken. He could not have registered on 6-19-1979. Registration for selective service was suspended from 1975 until July of 1980. Suspended means that there no one including your son was able to register.
I was born in 1960. I was required to register in July of 1980 along with persons born in 1961. I of course heard that I would have to do this months before then; I did not have the option of doing this early. Your son did not have this option available either.
Your opinion is based on interpretation because his words are ambiguous as I’ve already explained. If you can’t get it, I don’t have a magic wand to wave to make you smarter and a better reader. Sorry.
I’m a retired criminal investigator and have interviewed literally thousands of witnesses in my career. I know how inexact people are in speech and the follow-up questions needed to extract information without leaving anything open to interpretation. Those witness statements may be examined in great detail in court so their exact intent and observations have to be set forth without any gaps, ambiguities or conflicts.
Perhaps he lied or perhaps his advisers pointed out his error to him, assuming there is an error, and he/they decided it wasn’t important enough to make a big deal out of or what they view as a suitable venue to correct it hasn’t presented itself yet.
Or maybe he really did register and made the statement so that a bunch of conspiracy nuts would take the bait. Then he and his media handmaidens can once again ridicule conservatives for once again proving what useful idiots they can be if you just feed them a little BS.
Well, it wouldn’t be a proud day for him, so your point is BS. And I didn’t say he “forgot”. I said it’s possible that he misremembers the exact time frame.
I don’t know if he’s lying or not and neither do you. That’s the bottom line.
I made a typo — it should have said 6-29-79. But, he did register that day. I remember it clearly, and he registered at the local Post Office in TX. I especially remember because later they said he DIDN’T register and correspondance followed. Perhaps the Post Office threw his registration away. It was odd.
Most people enter school in September -- not January. Especially with an August birthday, he's well within the cut-off which usually is in late August, or early September.
However, mothers of little boys whose birthdays are that close to the cut off often hold them out for a lyear for maturity reasons. Of course, I am talking about the customs prevalent in the USA. I have no idea what they do in Indonesia.
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You could be right that young Obama did indeed sign the Selective Service form we see on the internet.
Still, I would like to see the following:
1. Handwriting experts: I would like to see handwriting experts examine Obama's signature on the Selective Service form and give us their opinion on whether or not it is Obama's signature.
2. Obama's signature samples from high school and college: Anyone out there have any Obama signature examples from when he was in high school in Hawaii and in colleges at Occidental in California, Columbia, and Harvard?
3. If you have any such Obama signatures, please share them with us. Thanks.
4. To me, however, Obama's signature on his Selective Service form from many years ago and his signature today are so obviously different that I have trouble believing that the obvious differences can be explained in this way: Many people's signatures change drastically as they get older, and Obama's signature is included in that group.
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You seem like a very experienced criminal investigator.
Do you have any opinion as to whether or not Obama signed his Selective Service form way back then after you looked at Obama's signature today? Thanks.
My signature from school 40 yrs ago is nothing like mine today. I do it on purpose as it is harder to forge than using proper writing skills where the individual letters are obvious. Have you ever seen a neat signature form a doctor on a prescription? The only time I sign my name so it is legible is when a contract is involved or a letter to a loved one. All other public docs that are subject to being lifted get the smear signature.
Everything that comes out of this guy's mouth is a bald face LIE! And the authorization for the IL state BAR to see his selective service record did NOT generate a ‘FORM 50’ that initiated an entirely new DLN.
His LIES are catching up to him and he knows it, Bwahahahaha
From: http://www.search.com/reference/Selective_Service_System
“On March 25, 1975, Pres. Gerald Ford signed Proclamation 4360, Terminating Registration Procedures Under Military Selective Service Act, eliminating the registration requirement for all 18-25 year old male citizens. Then on July 2, 1980, President Jimmy Carter signed Proclamation 4771, Registration Under the Military Selective Service Act, retroactively re-establishing the Selective Service registration requirement for all 18-26 year old male citizens born on or after January 1, 1960. Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration. The first registrations after Proclamation 4771 took place on Monday, July 21, 1980, for those persons born in January, February and March 1960 at U.S. Post Offices. Tuesdays, Wednesdays and Thursdays were reserved for persons born in the later quarters of the year, and registration for persons born in 1961 began the following week.”
I can't explain what happened with your son. It sounds like some type of bureaucratic misunderstanding. Possibly your real point here is that it is possible to get confused about events that took place in 1979 and in 1980?
I was born in 1960. These events were significant in my life and are still memorable to me. I graduated from High School in 1979. Obama also claims to have graduated in 1979. The year someone graduates from high school is etched in their mind. Registering for a possible draft is also etched in ones mind. It would not be possible for me to recall these events incorrectly as Obama did unless at least one of the events did not happen.
This has been rehashed hundreds of times, Obama said in his interview, “You know, I had to sign up for Selective Service when I graduated from high school. And I was growing up in Hawaii, and I had friend whose parents were in the military, there were a lot of Army, military bases there. And I always actually thought of the military as some ennobling and honorable option. But keep in mind: I graduated in 1979. The Vietnam War had come to an end. We weren’t engaged in an active military conflict at that point. So it’s not an option that I ever decided to pursue.”
In 1980 when supposedly Obama did sign up for Selective Service he was not living in Hawaii. According to his autobiography he was hanging out in California with radical communists, smoking pot and taking drugs. His statement to George Stephanopoulos was pure BS.
In 1980 Vietnam was behind us, but the Iranian's had taken over our embassy and had been holding our people hostage since April. The Russians invaded Afghanistan. The Cold War was still in full swing and there were numerous dangerous conflicts taking place all around the world. There were even communist revolutionaries being supported by Castro and the Russians in Central America, our own backyard. The reason Selective Service was reinstated was that war looked to be on the horizon.
There were also tons of people running around who didn't know what to do with themselves after protesting the Vietnam War. So they did what Obama did, smoked pot, took drugs, hung out with radical communists and protested anything that came along. They especially demonstrated against things like the reinstatemnet of Selective Service and any action that our government took to keep peace in the world.
If Jimmy Carter had stayed in office I am sure that he would have mucked things up bad enough that even Obama's communist sympathizing drug abusing butt might have been drafted. Fortunately, Reagan was elected and a sane strategy was put in place that turned things around.
There are some weird parallels in this thread that I am sure you are unaware of, between this exchange and one that I had recently with another individual on another thread.
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