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Video: It's Obama's Kenyan Birth Certificate On Camera - STREETS OF KENYA!
Dittos Rush! ^ | 1-28-10 | James

Posted on 01/28/2010 5:18:04 AM PST by iloveamerica1980

BHO'S KENYAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE ! ! SEE FOR YOURSELF ! ! Right before my eyes, there it is, Barack HUSSEIN Obama's birth certificate, mmm mmmm mmmm


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To: Non-Sequitur
Every time you bring up SR 511 I can't believe that you base your case on a non-binding resolution. I've come to the conclusion that you have no idea what non-binding means.

Can you point to the word "non-binding" in that SR511 resolution for us all???

261 posted on 02/02/2010 5:46:10 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: danamco

Yep — occasionally some of us have to do our duty as emissaries to an alien planet to see if there is any rational life there. But you are right. In Obamalala Land there is no sign of rational life — only mindless space-brained lower life forms wearing bunched up panties.


262 posted on 02/02/2010 5:55:42 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Can you point to the word "non-binding" in that SR511 resolution for us all???

Explaining it will require an understanding of how government works, which is problematic in your case. But I'll try.

A non-binding resolution is a written motion that is passed by one or the other houses of Congress that cannot be written into law. And the reason it cannot be is that it is not sent to the other house of Congress for approval and not sent to the President to be signed. For a law to take effect, as you should know, the Constitution requires both houses and the president to approve. SR 511 was never sent to the president. It never made it out of the Senate. It was never meant to.

So the evidence that is is a non-binding resolution is what happened to it. It was voted on in the Senate alone and stayed there. It is meaningless in terms of law. It has no purpose other than to express the thoughts of the Senate, such as they are. It no more defines what constitutes natural-born citizenship in terms of law than one of your posts or my posts does. It is, in the grand, cosmic scheme of things, meaningless. Except, apparently, to you.

Questions?

263 posted on 02/02/2010 6:01:35 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Uncle Chip
so does "born of American citizens [plural]" and that puts your dear leader outside of those limits as well as all of your dear anchor baby cousins.

Not according to law.

264 posted on 02/02/2010 6:04:24 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
Questions?

I'm sorry but I read your excuse but did not see where you pointed to the word "non-binding" in that Senate Resolution SR511.

Did you forget the question or were you just unsuccessful as always??? Perhaps you have it confused with NBSR511.

265 posted on 02/02/2010 6:29:07 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Not according to law.

Is that the non-binding law of Obamalala Land???

266 posted on 02/02/2010 6:39:24 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip
I'm sorry but I read your excuse but did not see where you pointed to the word "non-binding" in that Senate Resolution SR511.

It's not in there. Now, can you tell us when the House of Representatives voted on SR 511 or when the president signed it into law?

267 posted on 02/02/2010 9:33:30 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mik Taerg; woofie
pointless since my testimony does not amount to evidence. I am trying to receive evidence from third parties over indipendent sources.

Please tell us (with specific names) who are behind the "independent"(?) of YOUR sources from third parties such as "ohforgoodnesssake"!!!

Would that eventually be YOU or GREAT KIM also???

It is just such an "edifying" source you are getting your evidence from, ROTLMSO.

268 posted on 02/02/2010 9:41:10 AM PST by danamco
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To: Mik Taerg; InspectorSmith; Seizethecarp
Lucas shows a certificate ? It must be authentic Lucas’ paper says Obama was born in Kenya ? It’s authentic since he was certainly born in Kenya. Maganga’s name could be spelled differntly that on the document ? Impossible since the document is auhentic Maganga was not CA on Feb 19th 2009 ? Then how could he possibly have signed the authetic document.

I have only briefly seen the "copy" of the Kenyan B.C. which is kind of smudge on my screen!

However I faintly see on top that the signature is spelled Helton. Was that a 2009 signature or a 1961 signature?

Was Maganga CA in 1961??

Now as a ships Administrator in the Merchant Marine, it is supposed that the Captain signs all documents, however, because his other busy duties I would mostly sign the documents on his behalf. Has it occurred to you that maybe Maganga had some aid signing it on his behalf, and it is certainly easy for someone to sign with an "o" instead of an "a" and how was his name pronounced phonetically???

Have you personally ever been in Africa and dealt with the authorities there????

269 posted on 02/02/2010 10:14:56 AM PST by danamco
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To: danamco

How in the world do you even find such claptrap?


270 posted on 02/02/2010 10:30:48 AM PST by MHGinTN (Obots, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
It's not in there.

Right.

Now, can you tell us when the House of Representatives voted on SR 511 or when the president signed it into law?

It's not law. It's a Resolution in which the Senate unanimously accepted the traditional historical definition of "natural born citizen" as that defined by Vattel and the Venus Case as birth to American citizen parents [plural] and on American soil.

That's why they couldn't do one for Obama -- he's not a natural born citizen according to the traditional historical definition -- and they and you know it.

271 posted on 02/02/2010 10:54:17 AM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Uncle Chip

“born of American parents”

is refered to children (plural)

plurality of children, plurality of parents

the universe of children, the univers of parents

otherwise it would have been written

“born of two American parents”


272 posted on 02/02/2010 11:38:49 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: danamco

no, independent means not related to me in any way.


273 posted on 02/02/2010 11:41:08 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: danamco

the document is stamped feb 19th 2009. Lucas affirms maganga signed Helton Maganga below his stamp listing Helton Maganga, Chief Administrator of CPGH, on thata day. Only, I have found:

His name is Heltan
He was not yet appointed CA on Feb 19th 2009, articles in the Kenya paper “The Nation” from before and after Feb 19th - march (2) and april (1) 2009 say that the Chief Administrator was Othigo jenifer. The same paper writes an articke in June win which Maganga is named as CA for the first time. In the same month a video is shown on Kenya TV interviewing CA MAganga and it is subtitled Heltan Maganga. No reference to CA Othigo are known from after April 2009.

So I believe that Maganga was appointed CA sometimes between April and June 2009. Lucas conceived his hoax in June and ran across the article with CA Maganga making his the signing CA for his Feb 19th document.

Sources to these infos are linked in previous posts.


274 posted on 02/02/2010 11:50:32 AM PST by Mik Taerg
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To: Uncle Chip
It's not law. It's a Resolution in which the Senate unanimously accepted the traditional historical definition of "natural born citizen" as that defined by Vattel and the Venus Case as birth to American citizen parents [plural] and on American soil

It's a non-binding resolution where the Senate chose to identify one manner of becoming a natural-born citizen. But as you also said, it is not law. It has no legal authority. It is opinion, and nothing else. So the Senate could just as easily pass a resolution saying Obama is a natural-born citizen because he was born in Hawaii and what would that prove? Would it settle the issue? Only to people like you who seem to think non-binding resolutions count for something.

That's why they couldn't do one for Obama...

Sure they could.

275 posted on 02/02/2010 11:54:49 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
So the Senate could just as easily pass a resolution saying Obama is a natural-born citizen because he was born in Hawaii and what would that prove?

The Senate's propensity for prefabrication.

276 posted on 02/02/2010 12:24:00 PM PST by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Mik Taerg
But what is/are the name/s of these sooooo nice people that you get your evidence from, just answer the simple question, we like to know who he/she/them are, fair enough???

Please don't start you usually tap-dancing!!!

277 posted on 02/02/2010 12:24:17 PM PST by danamco
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To: Uncle Chip
The Senate's propensity for prefabrication.

But it would be every bit as binding as your SR 511.

278 posted on 02/02/2010 12:45:33 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Mik Taerg; Seizethecarp
So I believe that Maganga was appointed CA sometimes between April and June 2009. Lucas conceived his hoax in June and ran across the article with CA Maganga making his the signing CA for his Feb 19th document.

I think you are out on very thin ice!

The stamp clearly spells Helton Maganga and CA, but has no date on it!!

So you BELIEVE...(???) that Maganga was appointed CA between April - June 2009, hmmmm!!!

Can you prove to us that he was not appointed on January 1st 2009???

279 posted on 02/02/2010 12:53:52 PM PST by danamco
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To: Uncle Chip

Just remember that you are in insane La-La-Land. ‘Nuf said. Feeding is not recommended!!!


280 posted on 02/02/2010 12:57:44 PM PST by danamco
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