[curiosity]

So much for the birther claim that the Honolulu papers failed to publish the Nordyke bith announcement.

It also goes to show how worthless are the reports put out by birther "investigators". Why anyone believes a word they say is beyond me.

[autumnraine]

I don’t see a copy of it, just some blogger saying it. Am I missing something?

[autumnraine]

Never mind, clicked on wrong link. Sorry.

[JPG]

Cost of Hawaii certified birth “certificate of live birth”...about $10.00. Amount that Obama has spent in legal fees and court costs to prevent disclosure of same...over $1,500,000. WHY???

[The Sons of Liberty]

Since you're a big shot economist, please explain why B. Hussein 0bama has spent upwards of $1.7 Million to keep his birth certificate and college transcripts hidden.

Besides the place of his birth being very questionable ( - you believe him based on a newspaper article - give me a break! I guess you believe all the MSM worship of 0bama too) there is also a question of whether he renounced his citizenship, or if dual citizenship qualifies as "natural born".

I personally believe that there is a very good chance that he received money to attend college as a "foreign student", then he committed fraud - IF he was a natural born citizen. He can't have it both ways.

[outofsalt]

All conservatives should boycott travel to HI and let it be known why. I will not travel to HI until all records pertaining to Steve Barak Hussein O’Dunham Soetoro are made available.

[MHGinTN]

With your kneepads so tight, I can see how it is that you would jump to believe anything exculpatory for your affirmative action figure messiah. You have a very itchy ‘trigger finger’.

[sten]

excuse me... but this proves nothing.

when the officer walks up to your car, and asks for your license... do you think you can show him a jpeg on a website? hardly. that’s because jpegs are not official documents.

no further pondering is required. just provide the official birth documents. a certificate of live birth is also not valid, as it does not state any of the pertinent facts

the only real question should be... why delay delivering the document? if you were pulled over but didn’t have your license, you would have 2 days to deliver those documents to the court (or sometimes they just take you in). why does 0bama get 18 months?

there really isn’t much to discuss. did you provide the required documentation? no? then provide it. now. end of conversation.

[ADSUM]

Does it really matter if he was born in Hawaii? He may or may not be a citizen of the US, but he is definitely not a “NATURAL BORN CITIZEN’.

He is a British citizen at birth and is not a “natural born citizen”. He has dual allegiance to two or more countries, and is not eligible to be President of the United States.

Governments have laws even a Constitution, but if the idiots in charge of government does not enforce the laws, we get an ineligible President.

[FTJM]

So much for the birther claim that the Honolulu papers failed to publish the Nordyke bith announcement.

Never heard that one or why it made a difference.

However, why doesn't Obama's certificate look like the Nordykes'?

Let's see the hospital records and end the debate. Thanks.

[Jude in WV]

It still doesn’t makes sense to me why Obama was born the day before the twins but his number is later than theirs. Also, his number has “1961” where theirs has “61”. Why would the state issue a different number sequence for him?

[john mirse]

So much for the birther claim that the Honolulu papers failed to publish the Nordyke bith announcement.

It also goes to show how worthless are the reports put out by birther "investigators". Why anyone believes a word they say is beyond me.

******

Just curious: Is the Nordyke name the last name on the Aug. 16, 1961 newspaper birth listing as it appears on the website?

1. That is, in the original newspaper listing, are there any births listed below the Nordyke name who were also born on Aug. 5, or born on Aug.4, or born Aug.3, etc.?

2. Does anyone have a copy of the original entire birth listing that was in the newspaper Aug. 16 that shows the names below the Nordyke name, if there are any such names?

3. Why isn't Obama's name on that list, when he supposedly was born on Aug. 4? Thanks.

[Candor7]

Why then will not Obama reveal his Long Forn Birth Certificate to the public?

Why anyone would believe your crap is beyond me.

[john mirse]

Whether not finding was through oversight or fraud, the birth announcement is there in the newspaper on August 16 (Obama’s announcement was on August 13).

******

I am confused by the following information I see above:

1. Obama supposedly was born in a Hawaii hospital on Aug.4,1961.

2. The Nordyke twins were also born in the same Hawaii hospital on the next day, Aug.5, according to the newspaper birth list presented in this thread, which means that Obama and the twins were born one day apart.

3. However, according to the statement at the beginning of this message above, the Obama birth list appeared on Aug.13 while the twins birth listing appeared on Aug.16, which is 3 days apart.

4. So can someone help me and explain why the two births appeared 3 days apart in the newspaper birth list, when Obama's birth and the twins' births occurred only 1 day apart in the same hospital?

5. Myself, I want to see the ENTIRE birth list in the newspaper and not just the part where the Nordyke name is lised, because the birth listing I see is cut off at the bottom at one name past the Nordyke name.

6. That is, there is the Nordyke name and then one other name past it that I see, and then the list suddenly ends.

7. In fact, birth information about the last name is cut off so that we can't even see what date the child was born.

8. So if someone here can find the entire birth list in that newspaper dated August 16, 1961 and post it here, I would appreciate it.

[danamco]

Mr. Placenta, the fact is that Soetoro is STILL a Kenyan/British/E.U. citizen as well as possibly an Indonesian citizen and NOT a NBC!!!

[David]

I have never thought much of the argument about the newspaper publication.

The published note simply reflects what was filed with the state Department of Public Health. He was born. Well that's not a fact in dispute--we know that. The issue is where and the announcement doesn't tell us that.

I have consistently advanced a time line that had Stanley Ann and Barrack back to Hawaii for a filing on August 8 which was intended to affect his citizenship. In my view, that is exactly what they did.

Nothing in the Statistics publication reflects anything different than what it would say if they had acknowledged that he was in fact born in Mombassa which he was. All the announcement says is that he was born. It doesn't say where; it doesn't identify a doctor or a hospital; no one remembers it happening; there is no single person who can come forward at the time this became an issue 38 years after the fact (now still only 49 years) and say they were there.

[mojitojoe]

LOL, it took them over a year to fake this. The Nordykes was in the paper , same day Barry’s was. Only the funny thing is, Barry’s wasn’t there. Screw that microfilm sh*t. REAL papers, saved from that date and in the hands of the right people will bust this wide open. It will show deliberate fraud for a very important reason. Just sit tight, it will all come out in good time, the right time, and the right way.
Later sucker.

[rxsid]

HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN?

 

“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate.html

 

 

Furthermore:  Hawaii's Territorial Law, Chapter 57 - "VITAL STATISTICS, I", shown beginning pg 23 of 29, (the law in effect in 1961) allowed baby's born anywhere in the world to be eligible to apply for a Hawaii birth certificate.

[Sir Gawain]

Why anyone believes a word they say is beyond me.

I know this sounds crazy, but maybe it's because Obama hasn't released any records at all. Probably just a a minor thing we should all ignore, right?

[opentalk]

[Chief Engineer]

You will notice it says that Obama Sr is mentioned as being present during the birth, but from all accounts he was NOT present during the birth as relayed by Ann’s friends on Mercer Island, including amongst others Susan Blake and her best friend in high school where she often stayed and did her homework while enjoying chocolate cake her friend’s mother had made. Sorry the friend’s name escapes me at the moment.